narveen

So far I've never met a right person.

you mean to say that you let the wrong person into your life?

or were you making up stuff about women being awful and turning into yoda?

I would rather be alone than with the wrong person though.

they are always the right person

until they become the wrong person

how many right persons have you run through by now?

it's really depressing.

all these money-saving tips.

what's the point to being alive?

Right now I am single and have no plans to date anyone romantically in the future. Relationships require a large investment in terms of emotional, and psychic/spiritual energy. Relationships are also very financially draining, and have usually no or very low return on investment(for me at least).

 

I've got a few girls who call me every now and then for some company but mostly I keep to myself. I don't want to get romantically involved with anyone unless they share a carbon copy of my psyche, and we are on the same frequency and wavelength in all respects.

 

Finding someone like myself might make the sacrifices worth it, but not something I am actively seeking.

sooner or later, one runs into a relationship

because there is an aversion to being alone

you need someone to enjoy your black beans with

it's unfortunate that they muck up your bathroom with their stuff

Good advice. I will certainly give the razor blade tip a try - thank you.

you don't like the cheap clothes and beater car?

Don't. Live alone, choose your friends wisely even if that means complete and total isolation.

 

You are going to die anyway, it doesn't really matter how many friends you collect on facebook before you die. This is especially true if they are insincere or evil friends.

are friends even necessary?

for what?

if one needs a chat

one goes to the internet

where one has absolute control of the conversation

without getting punch in the face

do you live in total isolation?

relationship-wise, i mean

The problem really isn't men vs women. Most people are really awful people, men and women both.

 

This awful just manifests in different ways for men and women.

good stuff, pie

you should put it all in a book

to cause the next economic recession

Imagine constantly fighting over who gets to spend the money you earn and on what, it isn't fun and I don't recommend it.

Make sure the person you find is pretty on the inside too, not just the outside. The inside is wayyyyy more important as they all wind up looking like Yoda eventually anyway.

you message seems to imply that one shouldn't try to turn a prostitute into a wife.

maybe we should look at women differently

not as living companions, married or not.

women are wonderful creatures for falling in love with

from 16 till 20

before they turn

I sure do like "intermountain west" women...Not much of that stuff around here, pretty or otherwise.

what kind of women are they?

too tough may not be good

yes - nonattachment, equanimity, and fearlessness - all very hard to attain and somewhat interrelated

if a spiritual awakening bringing security

amounts to coming to terms with one's situation,

then non-attachment, equanimity and fearlessness

imply being stuck, inner turmoil and fear.

i think being stuck is the root problem

becoming unstuck could be an impossibility

if the situation has become intractable

one can be stuck to people, places and things

i don't think getting unstuck can be thought out

if you have to figure a way to become unstuck

then it's a trap.

what do you think?

I would like to see the Koch Brothers try to live on $34,000 a year.

no problem.

actually, they don't need any income for living a great life

income is anything coming to you

from your capital gains, director's fees, paychecks to pennies found in the streets

just to please the 99%, they could get hired at 34,000 a year

as kitchen help in any of their company's executive cafeteria

with no change to their existing lifestyle without breaking any tax laws.

Why Doesn’t the Government Use Its Mass Surveillance to Bust the Big Criminals … the Banksters?

what about gangsters?

are you not concerned about the mafia?

from organized crimes all over the usa to inner-city street thuggery.

we could wipe out drugs, prostitution, anything that is perceived as bad for the usa

the nsa could watch over the country the way mods run this forum

and keep america squeaky clean

Having money gives one a sense of security.

ok, i will cut to the chase.

is it possible to get that security

Not having money is stressful to many. I don't like that - I feel that the movement away from hunter/gatherer to this organized system of inter-commerce is somewhat stifling to nature's way, yet also more secure in other fashions. Its not like a person will starve in this society, yet there are now these ego-demands on one to fit in. Its plus and minuses. Thats why I like being minimalist. I can live on ~$600-800 a month easily. Yet a person could live on no income - collect bottles, eat food out of garbage, sleep in cardboard boxes, etc. and still survive - many do! I dont fear that I couldnt survive no matter what the situation...if others can do it so can I, but its the ego-thing that gives me anxiety now.

this is plan b

if the path one tread leads to perdition

this is why it is important to get it right.

Imagine yourself with a guaranteed income that is enough to keep you in good shape regardless of what you do, and if you visualize it properly, you can see all that psychic tension melt away (at least it works for me). I find this interesting.

yes,

i believe that the right way protects

the income is there without the guarantee

but you feel protected

and the money is there

no cheating, no stealing, not even having to lose one's dignity

if this is not so

then the path is pointless.

Oh and I noticed motorcycle and car. Cars are EXPENSIVE. Figure in oil changes, tuneups, plus things like new tires and other major expenses now and then. My projects are always vehicles (sometimes musical instruments)...they'll easily suck up all your money and time, unless you're smart on what vehicle you own, and become your own mechanic. But a car will cost you around $60 every couple months for oil changes, and unless you can somehow avoid all maintenance (which just causes more expensive problems down the road), figure a couple hundred bucks (or even several hundred to a thousand) twice a year on random stuff going wrong.

what about a bicycle?

that should cut a lot of expenses on transportation.

Haha! Just because I accept facts of life doesn't mean I despair over them or attempt to change my own.

 

I'm here because I love Taoism. From what I understand Taoism was created as the sciences of life so that we may all live long happy healthy and wise. What else is of value in this life?....

i like your attitude.

have you any idea what is the point to living your life?

Well, I would never suggest that you give up on sex. Hehehe. It is a beautiful thing if affections are involved.

 

There is a time for all seasons.

 

It is now my time to enjoy my solitude.

affection has nothing to do with sex

which has its place in life for man # 1

who is in prison and doesn't realize it

and so he does his beautiful thing (or so he is led to believe)

that moves him to a higher level of incarceration

for every child he brings into the world

until he lands himself in supermax

with a wife and two kids to support

sex that has nothing to do with reproductive biology

is fornication

only apes can do this beautiful thing without paying wife and child support

From the above, it appears you don't understand evolution, how humans are genetically related to primates etc. Plenty of research to read. This thread has wandered off topic so lets get back to the OP.

it has not.

we are still on topic.

the fall of the usa is due to americans who cannot think straight.

i am trying to straighten things out with you to prevent that fall

you still have not told me where you are from

if you are not from the usa

then this conversation with you is off topic.

you can't? (i'm not really asking. you don't have to say anything)

well, i am glad you didn't

i was told by an old fella once

that as long as a man can shuffle one foot ahead of the other to walk

he would go for the women.

we are on topic

this is # 3 talking to # 1

about life in the prison

yes, sex without affection is a downer

but there comes a time, for a man

when sex no longer becomes him

and yet, it is precisely at that time in his life

that he rises to the occasion

to make a fool of himself

as they say,

there is no fool like an old fool

as you watch him with a sweet young thing on his arm

walking down the street

the older and uglier he is

the more desirable

to the drop-dead beautiful predators on high heels

sex is over for man # 3

at the onset of spiritual wakening

as the case was with guatama

when he gave up domestic life to look for the deathless state

he was 30 years old

i am 35

i am unemployed too

by choice, two years ago

to tread the path.

i am looking for liberation

but not of the spiritual kind

i want to be free, completely

from conventional life

the need for money to live in necessary

even at the basic level

without personal relationships of any kind

no partners to care for, no kids to raise

it is this need for money, no matter how little,

that binds one to a conventional life

even living in the forest to forage does not bring liberation

for it is still a conventional existence

therefore, it is not money that binds

it is the need for money that enslaves

it is the need to stay alive that is the problem

what do you say?

Yeah.. back when he was posting as Sree - said he was a day-trader on the stock exchange. The Lobby intro post for narveen creates a whole newbie story. Kinda fun to watch, but kinda sad too. Hey narveen - why not just drop all the bull and share with us from your heart? You might be surprised if you give us a chance.

i am not a day-trader.

i don't have a job even.

why is it sad, rene?

i have been sharing with you from my heart

i wish you would continue our discussion

on a manifesto for building a new america

without the bull.

The research is factual and not controversial as to evolution and you can read books online or check out at your local library.

ok, so some guy called darwin said that we are apes and all animals come from common ancestors a million years ago.

this claim is so definitive and conclusive to you that you are willing to swallow it as a truth about life.

meanwhile, we have neuro-scientists telling us today that we really don't know much about the human brain.

and your doctor tells you that medical science has not figured out yet how to cure the common cold.

do you think that the difference between a guy who makes it in life as ceo of a fortune 500 company and a sad sack eating out of a trash bin is luck? you don't have to be a ceo, my friend but please don't push your luck.

Furthermore, it is religious conservatives quoting the bible that have created the so called controversy in regards to evolution. Evolution is only controversial in their narrow minds. I suppose you believe the earth is 6000 years old?

well, if i have to choose which fairy tale to swallow, i would rather not pick the one that makes me an ape.

Having two degrees in engineering proves what in regards to evolutionary theory? Does that make you an expert?

no, that doesn't make me an expert on fairy tales.

but a grounding in the fundamentals of the physical sciences

enables me to take climate change claims apart and tell the difference

between probable outcomes that merit public concern

and wild speculations calculated to make al gore a hundred million dollars.

There is another thread here devoted to discussing AGW so I am not going to waste my time with you on that.

ok

Make up your mind.

i do have an education.

not that it matters for conversations, such as these,

among people totally disengaged from reality.

You have a problem with evolution and man made climate change?

yes, i have because both are controversies

and either one has scientists supporting it.

not that i agree with any of them

Opinions are one thing but to refute scientific research without evidence or understanding the research is ludicrous.

what research?

show me.

i have two degrees in engineering

and will not be wasting your time

if you offer your research material

for my review and discussion.

good points, songtsan.

very sane and down-to-earth

i think the salient point of this thread

is how does one live a good life

in this world

how does one follow the path

in the "hood".

if we could discuss this realistically

in full cognizance of harsh realities

it would be helpful (for your book)