TheInkSpot
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Ahem... the * is an asterisk.
Aaron
Thank you.
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Well now that's just a direct insult. Where was I being an asterisks, asterisks, asterisks?
Aaron
What is an asterisks, asterisks, asterisks?
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I have no idea who Vmarco is.
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I'm actually on a vegetarian diet,
Aaron
That's nice. So that gives you the right to be an ***?
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I reported this post. It is in violation of the ToS. It also isn't very funny. I'm not certain, but I believe that it may be in the best interest of the forum to report this post, since the poster is threatening to "hunt" human beings and eat them.
Aaron
You have one really wierd sense of humour.
What is a sheeple? The word does not exist.
The hunting was referring to hunting for a topic to speak to.
Food is referring to food for thought and discussion.
Maybe I should just leave this forum if I am going to get these types of protests.
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I have been hiding in the shadows but have grown hungry. The hunt is on. Beware all you sheeple. Food is food. I will be looking for the weakest amongst you.
Signed,
The Cheetah
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Thanks for working on that with me. My main interests here are two-fold: that the English translation you end up with is smooth and grammatically correct and most important, the significance of Ziran (Tzu-jan) as you have translated it to "Self-fulfilling".
(Sorry Cat, "self-igniting" just doesn't seem adequately descriptive.)
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Good advice above.
But don't get too hooked on the "living with Nature" part. You don't need to find a cave in some mountain somewhere to do this.
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Yes, "always" would be hard to justify in the "real" world. We all hit the bumps in the road. However, I think that it can fairly be said that Tao and Te are always self-fulfilling. Man? Different question.
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To try to define time is similar to trying to define Tao. Neither of these two are "things". In the case of time, it is a random measurement of the movement of one thing based on the position of another. No movement, no time. This can be called a "static condition". A "dynamic condition", on the other hand (was that the left or the right?), signifies movement and now we can define a time measurement. Be dynamic Y'all!!!
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Interesting subject. Humans are animals. I watched a documentary last night and it seems a Mantis Shrimp has self-awareness but a Moray Eel does not. (In a mirror, the shrimp viewed itself and went on its merry way but the eel tried to kill the intruder.)
There are many animals beside humans that have self-awareness. But yes, there are many things going on after self-awareness has been attained. These "things" will vary between species as well as between individuals.
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Honoring Tao and prizing Te, a man cannot order them, is always self-fulfilling.
The character 恆 is in this reading of the sentence, due to grammar, an adverb.
Independently looks in the context wrong to me, so I try the traditional always.
Yes, "independently" is a word that perhaps is improper. Perhaps back to "spontaneously" self-fulfilling"?
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When a man cannot order them are honoring Tao and prizing Te your independent self-fulfillings.
道之尊也 德之貴也 夫莫之爵也 而恆自然也
The two first 也 characters mark the two subject clauses (honoring Tao and prizing Te)
The third 也 character marks a subordinate clause (a man cannot order them)
The fourth 也 character marks an object clause (your independent self-fulfillings)
Getting better. It is still a tongue twister for an English speaking person.
Can this be justified?: A man cannot order them, therefore he honors Tao and prizes Te (and this leads to) [or] (which becomes) independent self-fulfilling.
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Nice.
Maybe more work on the last one?
Dot
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Animal Flesh and the Fall of Man.
in General Discussion
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I just returned his PM to me. I do understand why he reacted as he did. No problem.
I am here mostly to be challenged mentally. When I do post it will likely be for that purpose.
Dot