Buddhist/Daoist Views Related to Xing/Dharmakaya(Split From What do you think about Neidan(內丹)?)

[Forestgreen]

On 2026-01-16 at 10:50 PM, cake1234566 said:

 

I have a lot of respect for Zen buddhism, have you read Hakuin's Yasenkanna? He describes neidan as a separate practice that is useful for supernatural health and longevity but that buddhism is supremely important for the spirit

He demonstrates solid knowledge in neidan and is regarded as one of the Zen patriarchs, he writes that the two methods are not the same

https://otani.repo.nii.ac.jp/record/8339/files/EBNVol.34No.1_OCR_05.pdf

 

The method described does not correspond to "refining the elixir nine times over" (pg 95) which leads to celestial immortality, it conforms to methods relevant for human/earth/spirit immortality.

[cake1234566]

2 hours ago, Forestgreen said:

The method described does not correspond to "refining the elixir nine times over" (pg 95) which leads to celestial immortality, it conforms to methods relevant for human/earth/spirit immortality.

There's a few different versions around that are a bit different, I wouldn't take hakuin's advice on neidan more than i'd take wang chongyang's advice on buddhism however haha

The original has more traditional instruction corresponding to northern alchemy but is of course not translated

He specifically discusses the 金液還丹 or "Golden Liquid Returning Elixir"

https://wikisource.org/wiki/夜船閑話

I read through your Neidan 101 five ranks of Xian thread, really solid info! I don't agree with some of your conclusions but I think your viewpoint and research are really cool 

[Forestgreen]

29 minutes ago, cake1234566 said:

 

I read through your Neidan 101 five ranks of Xian thread, really solid info! I don't agree with some of your conclusions but I think your viewpoint and research are really cool 

Disagreement of how texts should be interpreted has been the core of religious discussions for millennia. Please feel free to pick my post apart in that thread.