There is a false saying

[Surya]

There is a false saying, ‘Whoever cannot save himself - how can he save others?’ But if I have the key to your chains, why should your and my lock be the same.

Friedrich Nietzsche

 

 

Whats your take, dear bums? I’d say I agree with the ecentric and fiery German philosopher of the flame. You don’t need to be perfect in order to contribute. But ofc, one should avoid hypocrisy more than anything, even more than new viruses that appears out of nowhere and definitely comes from bugs, not Wuhan.

[Krenx]

https://suttacentral.net/an4.95/en/sujato?lang=en&layout=plain&reference=none&notes=none&highlight=false&script=latin

 

“Mendicants, these four people are found in the world. What four?

 

1. One who practices to benefit neither themselves nor others;

 

2. one who practices to benefit others, but not themselves;

 

3. one who practices to benefit themselves, but not others

 

4. one who practices to benefit both themselves and others.

 

Suppose there was a firebrand for lighting a funeral pyre, burning at both ends, and smeared with dung in the middle. It couldn’t be used as timber either in the village or the wilderness. The person who practices to benefit neither themselves nor others is like this, I say.

 

The person who practices to benefit others, but not themselves, is better than that. The person who practices to benefit themselves, but not others, is better than both of those. But the person who practices to benefit both themselves and others is the foremost, best, chief, highest, and finest of the four.

 

From a cow comes milk, from milk comes curds, from curds come butter, from butter comes ghee, and from ghee comes cream of ghee. And the cream of ghee is said to be the best of these. In the same way, the person who practices to benefit both themselves and others is the foremost, best, chief, highest, and finest of the four.

 

These are the four people found in the world.”

Edited 2 hours ago by Krenx

[BigSkyDiamond]

I guess I'm confused about the title of the thread "There is a false saying."  Because I'm not sure what the premise is.

 

The false saying that comes to mind for me is "You get what you pay for."

Because in my own experience, amount of money spent is not an indicator of quality, benefit,satisfaction, or value.