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  1. When one is practicing celibacy, what is the best exercise to perform daily to ensure the complete sublimation of fluids? I practice a version of celibacy known as brahmacharya. It is celibacy of the body, as well as the mind. I have concerns about improper sublimation causing energetic imbalances/problems. I intend to commit to this practice for a more extensive period than years prior. I have heard pranayama and the microcosmic orbit being recommended to practitioners of this path. I personally have used deep breathing primarily in the past, though I would like my efforts to be entirely sound this outing. Thank you
  2. Hi, first, I don't know if this is the correct section for this discussion, but I'm new and thought that this is the one that it most fits in. The topic is celibacy and energy, and microcosmic orbit. My situation is that I don't have a master, I am a 22 years old guy, very talented musician, I have read a lot, I consider myself wise, independent, and capable. I am trying to stop my ejaculations, for the benefit of everything, specially my job, studies and personal relationships. Since I am young, healthy and have good genetics, my libido is pretty high. We could say that is maybe because of how indulgent and abusive I have been with masturbation throughout my life, that my libido is high. But it is also because I am healthy and have plenty of life in me. I have stopped masturbation obviously, more than a year ago by now. I was some time using masturbation as a tool to release the fantasies I had created in relation to porn, which has been very supportive. But I got to a point of having to grow up. Then I joined no fap and stared to have strikes of days without masturbating. And it has been a long process, that I still working on, from the big to the small. The last thing I added to my list of work was not looking at women to judge their physics, and not look for them in the street. It's like an habit, and I realized that this was feeding my libido in a bad way. There is a good libido in me, which is the one that after for example 11 of no ejaculation makes me a literal demigod. 11 days is not much, but as I said I have pretty good genetics and energy levels. So, I know seeing beauty in women is natural, biological. But I also, want to understand how it works, so it does not work against me, and my mind does not feed on it to charge my sexual organ. So, I am working with everything about masturbation, I am working also with memories, like for example the one I have about one relationship I had of 2.5 years. I am clearing everything, and it is the best decision I have ever done, and if you know what I am talking about you'll understand. My goal, my ideal, would be to use sexual pleasure only to create children, the day I decide to marry a woman. That is my ideal, but maybe because of my past abusive relationship with masturbation and porn, or maybe just because of my healthy natural libido and testosterone, that is quite hard. For me, consciously, it's not hard, because I don't like masturbating, I have nothing against it, I think it is cool, but as I said my ideal would be to use it only to create children. But, consciously I get away with it. But my reality says, hey, it's not how thinks work, you are not a master and you will have nocturnal emissions. And that is kind of my issue, once my energy reaches a certain point of healthiness, it will discharge while I am sleeping. This has had very bad consecuences. It's not only that I am 2 or 3 days depressed because of an unhealthy level of energy after it happens, it has ruined some personal relationships, and even my job. For example I had a stroke once, I was charging myself for 11 days, and the next 2 days I had a concerts. But, that night I had a noctural emission without fantasy, and then I knew what would happen. Next days I had no energy, I played very bad, I couldn't make my friends laugh or anything, it was a disaster. Because I had lost my semen the previous day. This brought me to a scary situation, where I would have to go to sleep not knowing if the next day I would wake up dead or not. You may think that it is normal or it not normal, but I know it is not how things are supposed to be. We could aswell discuss the topic of wether due to my past of porn addiction, in my ejaculation, even if I have really worked on it and relaxating myself ans releasing the fantasies etc etc for a long time, I lose more energy than the avarage person. Meaning, people are able to work normally even they ejaculate the previous day, but I am all anxious because my body energy is in deficit. This is up to debate, and I am not sure of it, and not even know if it adds something to the topic. So, I was in that situation and started adding to my routine of yoga stretches, stretches specifical for the kidneys, a lot of them, and to strength the lower abdomen. I believe this had helped me because, tonight, I was full of energy and I had a short sexual dream which is rather unusual, and, while I knew that orgasm was coming, and I knew it was my body doing it while in that unconcious and I could do nothing to stop it, my prostate relaxed. It was something that I have been practicing, relaxing the PC muscle, but I didn't know that if done in that way I would achieve that. So, I saw the orgasm coming, and in the dream I saw a circle (which was my prostate) and I expanded fully that circle to relax it. The result was my testicles not going so up and close to the body, and my prostate not contracting to release the semen. The result of that was an orgasm achieved by relaxation, that felt exactly like an orgasm, but which had not depleted me because I had not released my semen. Even if I obviously had released some energy with that orgasm. I imagine that this technic can be used to make long sexual intercourse and highly satisfy your partner. I don't know if this is a solution, I once knew a very smart guy with very high level of energy, that told me he masturbated and had orgasms without ejaculation. But this is all very knew to me, so I would like guidance of people more advance than me and that value the virtue of celibacy as much as me. Also, in relation to micro cosmic orbit, I started recently to do some exercices with it, and I have noticed that you are able to move your energy in a very interesting way, reminds me of playing music, but through your entire body. And I suppose this has benefits in itself, but the one I have noticed is that it clears my blockages of energy. For example one day I woke up sexually aroused, but in a rather bad way... And I had this block of energy like a magnet in the base of my pennis. When I did the microcosmic orbit, it had released and I was refreshed, so I could continue my day normally and focus on using my energy for it's true purpose. I'd like, if possible, and if anybody wants to support me, guidance in relation to how to deal with ejaculations, and if what I achieved is a good solution. And also, information about microcosmic orbit meditation. What paths do you recommend to do, and if it can support me to gain more controll over my energies specially in relation to masturbation/sexual energy. Thank you!!
  3. Celibacy and Will Power

    I am new to the site and joined after getting enlightened about few things relating to celibacy and will power. I want to share my experience and knowledge in brief. I am staying in India currently. I have been a long believer in science and scientific logic and excluded anything and everything not in sync with scientific principles. However, my interest is gradually starting to develop in things that exist or that happen but still there is no scientific evidence yet to prove it. Meditation, for example till last few decades had no scientific approval. Science used to laugh it away. Yoga is another. If we go further, even God is not approved by science yet. Would it not be appropriate to say that science is just trying to give us answer to many things that exist already, Science has not created Sun or Moon. Yes scientific discoveries benefit us all tremendously. But science is evolving at all times. It is not complete. So, what exists is more powerful than science. Science is just a student. The bottom line is that what science says today may be different what it say and does tomorrow. Therefore many ancient things are more powerful than science, e.g. spirituality. Why; because that exists, science is not powerful enough today to explain it, To pronounce a theory on it yet. That lead us to consider that ancient shastras, ancient scripts, old principles that may be related to spirituality, health or anything else deserve more attention. Modern medical science says that Celibacy is not good or at least it is not beneficial to us. Or semen retention is not healthy. But some of our ancient scripts says that semen has divine energy into it. Mahatma Gandhi, as we all know, practiced celibacy for some time, considerable long time. His grandson explains why Gandhi undertook celibacy in an interview on You tube. He says that Gandhi believed that he needed a lot of inner energy (not necessarily physical energy), soul power, a moral force to tackle a lot of difficult problems of his time. So whether or not semen retention or celibacy has any medical benefits, it definitely has spiritual power in it. It empowers you, it gives you the divine confidence that you are beyond the ordinary. Therefore will power is something, which science will take many decades to explain. But our ancient spiritual masters has already explained it thousands and thousand of years ago. I welcome views of fellow members on this. Love to all.
  4. I am 21 years old. Whenever i don't masturbate for more than 2 weeks, my semen becomes thick and lumpy with huge jelly like chunks in it. Internet says those jelly like balls are protein but i am still unsure about it. Also the color becomes yellow although it doesn't smells peculiar. However if i masturbate once every week then i don't see the same. In this case my semen is white, fluid and not sticky at all. Please can you put some light on both of the cases? I am not doing any spiritual practices right now.
  5. Desire

    In one aspect this idea of being celibate and doing meditation daily seems enticing, but living in modern society, I doubt anyone is going to be successful in achieving enlightenment. It seems like becoming a monk is the noble path for fulfilling enlightenment. It also seems that many religions tie celibacy very closely to enlightenment. But does becoming a monk and pursuing Buddhism full time lead to enlightenment in actuality? Or does it just increase your chances? I know it would make celibacy easier, but is there really a purpose to all that? They say desire is the root of suffering. Is there more suffering in this life that is outweighs the positives? This leads to deeper questions like what is the purpose of life? Is it just to procreate? Can one find peaceful/enlightened states while procreating? Is this 10 day silent retreat (Vipassana) just a way of forgetting these animalistic urges short-term? Or does is lead to a powerful new technique for developing mental stillness while overcoming the rigors of everyday society? I recently picked up the Bhagavad Gita due to suggestions by Indian spiritual readings and I found it saying that we are nothing and everything at the same time. It doesn't seem like procreating or even having intercourse embodies this philosophy. The texts goes so far as to say we shouldn't take part in worldly pleasures. Yet, I have also read that the Hindu gods rejoice in sexual intercourse and even embrace it for marriage and with multiple partners. This leads to a word that has been on my mind many a day lately and that's the subject of lust. Lust to me is what I find in a partner. And isn't love the way we are suppose to feel for all other humans? I have a partner, but my animalistic instincts direct me away from having just one partner. And that brings me to my point of if having a partner is even good in the first place. I feel in every day society and partner life/attachment, at least moving out to a semi secluded area down the road would be the most logical. That way I would not have to deal with the ongoing issue of lusting for the opposite sex. Thoughts? Warmly, Chi Boy
  6. Social Media

    Hey guys, just wanted to gather some opinions on the topic of social media. No one has a thread on it that I know of. I used to use social media like facebook, twitter, and instagram (and even myspace back in the day). In the past year or so I've got some distance from social media deleting my facebook and instagram and using my twitter maybe once a week on average and not having it downloaded to my phone. On the other hand, my girlfriend uses twitter, facebook, and instagram daily. I feel like using social media creates people to think about other people, most of which are not currently in their lives. Based on what I've read in books and on this forum it seems thinking about something is putting energy into it, not sure if that's right. It makes me uncomfprtable knowing my girlfriend finds enjoyment in looking at hundreds of different people daily that she doesn't know or barely knows. So what you guys think of social media?
  7. Many times when we strive for celibacy, we encounter temptation and other obstacles that hinders us. In my case, I have went through periods of depression where I thought things weren't going to change, especially since we live in a sexually oriented society, and you can't turn a corner or bat an eye without seeing some form of this. Many times I asked myself why? I considered it karma from the past.... When one desires, the desire is completely formulated and inseparable from ones emotion and opinion. If you aren't in a good mood, certain comedy will not make you laugh. As well visa-versa, when someone is happy, certain unfortunate things will not bring them down. Desire and emotion all are both dependent. If a situation happens, these two things are easy changed without much thought. One can consider these two as a thought themselves. Without intention, they are simply motionless in a sense. But the moment one acts out out of these desires and emotions, they gain meaning in a more physical aspect. To 'combat' these things, you must pay attention to the root. Asking yourself meta-cognitive questions like: What significance does this thought have? What does it mean to me? Do I consider this negative or positive? If negative, why would I think about it in the first place? If positive, how would this affect my life? Positively or negatively? How is my heart rate affected? What about my breathing? If it is emotion your feeling, does it sprout desire? If it is desire, does it sprout emotion? Are they positive or negative? Where does this thought root from? Does it come from incidences in the past? Where in the past? Who was I compared to who I am now? If I was different, why does it still affect me now? etc.. etc.. If emotion does arise from thinking these things, don't consider it. What i mean it to allow it to go. Don't consider it's coming. Let it be distant from you if you want it to be. Lastly, when you do let go, ensure that you let go of letting go. This is a good technique because once you let go and there is nothing left, but yet you are still trying to let go, this intention will create something more. That is why many times abstinence can be disrupted. When one is too concerned on the cause, it concerns the mind, and makes it a bigger situation. Thinking about it, before I intentionally went abstinent, I could have just wen abstinent... if that makes sense. Please comment on what you think. Add more meta-cognitive questions, give advice, etc... Thank you to all those who have read this, and good luck! :-)
  8. Am I practicing celibacy correctly?

    I've been attempting total celibacy for about seven years, currently on a continuous streak of more than two years. I'm in my mid-30's, vegetarian, and male. My energy has felt good and rejuvenated, and I feel consistently calm and level-headed by now. However, there are some possible physical and social side effects that I am concerned about. In my first thread, I want to ask about three of the physical ones. I achieved my current state without much instruction until recently, and mainly through will power. The early years included a lot of anxiety symptoms and bowel syndromes, though they could have been due to concurrent stress at the time. When guarding my focus during the day wasn't enough, I learned to trap my hands underneath my pillow at night. That was a bit forced, but now it's less necessary, and I don't ever feel an urge to masturbate even if I'm in pain. I've never had a wet dream in my life. I do a lot of scientific and creative work, so I think that sublimates most of my energy and provides a stronger focus than women. 1. I've urinated frequently and in large volumes, mostly water, throughout my adult life, including the years when I masturbated. However, now I am more likely to feel sudden, strong urges to do so, always producing a stream with lots of water. I am wondering if this is just stress or retrograde ejaculation caused by excitement (including excitement regarding what I'm working on). My body often has a sweet smell afterwards, or I may get rhinitis in my nose right afterwards so I can no longer smell anything as well. Sometimes my prostate throbs as I urinate. I may feel some tingling around the baihui point on my head as the stream comes out. Sometimes, the sweet smell (at least a smell I sense in my nose, after walking away from the toilet) doesn't come until a minute after I'm done. Related or unrelated, good or bad? 2. In the evenings after a full day of mental work, particularly if I've been drinking coffee, I feel lots of tension around my belt buckle, maybe around the lower dantian. Something feels very full. It often goes away concurrently with a bowel movement, if I sit long enough for lots of fluid to come out after the bowels have emptied. There is kind of a stagnant smell afterwards. Is this just the last fluid from the bladder, or am I emptying out an overloaded prostate or testicles with a Valsalva maneuver? 3. Sometimes any kind of excitement or anxiousness (about work, or an exciting image, or a desire of some sort) produces a sudden muscle grip in the upper part of my rectum. Alternatively, it can produce some fluid moving up through the huiyin area. If I'm aware enough I can sometimes stop this (I try to coordinate my breathing with the movement of the huiyin cavity). Is this the process of semen generation? Am I milking my own prostate subconsciously with the gripping?
  9. i cant do cool draw / testicular breathing. it just seems impossible for me. can i meditate on macro cosmic orbit to maintain celibacy?
  10. I am 20 year old guy who has just started learning these spiritual practices. I find this site very informative that's why i joined it. Hope i will seek here guidance and suggestions from you all people thanks again for letting me in
  11. Background: 20 year old male, turning 21 in the spring. Former great loss of jing, ojas, meaning of being "man", etc. due to pornography and masturbation. Of course I have long since quit these behaviors in favor of spiritual practice. But I want to take it a step further - I'd like to remain celibate for approximately 10 years in order to give myself opportunity to deepen spiritually and use my creative energies for other purposes. Some call this "Brahmacharya". and traditionally it lasts 12 years in disciplined practice, but I'm shooting for the decade between ages 20 and 30. This is the time of my life when I feel I will have the most potentially to do and achieve anything I want. While celibate I've noticed that the creative CHI life energies naturally flow elsewhere; art, music, literature, film, theater, even raw emotion seem to come alive for me at a whole new level. I am an artist and would like to seriously devote my energy to creation because I believe I have something to contribute to this realm in the world. I am currently seeing a girlfriend, and we are dating, but I haven't yet mentioned to her my plan. That said I feel that she is a soulmate, and perhaps she would understand (cliche, but true love waits). I believe dating should occur for years before marriage. Am I deluding myself by believing that such a period of self-realization would change me as a person, and perhaps take me some distance toward the realm of enlightenment?
  12. I am celibate and have been practicing cultivation / jing retention for quite some time now, but have come to realize that it is unnatural long-term for a human to exist without experiencing occasional arousal of Kundalini energy. This is not to say to give in fully to lustful desires, but to at least allow the energy to flow through the body. Does anyone have any specific sexual yoga or meditation practice to offer apart from Chi-Gung, which I already do? Thanks.
  13. Celibacy for creative reasons

    This May will mark the completion of my 20th year upon this earth. Becoming 20 has definitely caused me to realize that the next 10 or so years will probably be the prime of my life, when I will have the most potential to do or achieve anything I want. These days, time seems to be passing quicker to me as well, which probably indicates that I need to use it wisely. I've struggled with creativity ever since becoming a young adult, and it has become even harder as I've grown into a man and become subject to hormonal urges. I know this is natural but I feel that being essentially an animal at the mercy of these urges is not a good thing either, and is a drain on life force. Basic logic indicates that the more distracted I am with purely sexual feelings, then the less open my heart will be, and the less open my creative mind will be. The way I can sense that I need to return to cultivation and/or celibacy is when the sex energy starts seeming dull or un-potent. I think that the way it works is that the more sex energy you expend, the less powerful it becomes. Sex is enjoyable, yet doesn't necessarily make me happy. I compare it to other physical sensations, which are pleasurable but very fleeting in the grand scheme of things. On the other hand, I feel that other capacities of humans - love, creativity, compassion, are eternal. I like deep sensational feelings of the soul, and to me the sensations of the body that sex offers are just an analogue to that, essentially these two are yin and yang. Neither are bad, but they need harmony. I'm not currently with anyone at present, though I have been in the past. Currently I'm not sexually interested in anyone whom my heart is not with. I feel that creativity is something my heart is at least more invested in, in present. I've been celibate in the past and I've noticed that it become more intense the longer it goes on. I recall it feeling like a constant heat, which at times could make me angry but at other times I would feel very emotionally vulnerable, and also more aware of the world. I read that after 600 days of celibacy a man will reset to the jing-life force strength of a young and vigorous 16-year old boy. I'm not a huge fan of specific numbers, but if an older man can attain that in that amount of time, I, at 20, should have no problem after a year and a half of celibacy. The ability to transmute the energy into creative things is something that I've only learned to do with time, also, and no small amount of practice and maturity on my part. However, I've had confidence issues in the past, and the good news is that being celibate makes you bold and confident almost by default (at least in my experience).
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    I am a 19 yr old male and i have been currently been celibate for 30 days. In that time, I have already seen great transformation of mind and my psychological approach to the world. I feel that I have gone from being a rather ordinary slacker with little self confidence to a much more confident and determined individual. I don't know how else to describe the changes that have occurred except to say that it has been made clear to me how damaging self-pleasure was to my soul and mind. my intellectualizing of it is that the more often jing-essence is released, the more empty the soul and heart become, the less confident a man will feel, as well as more physically connected to the world. i went from being a user of pornography, whom was uncomfortable around women, to a guy who can casually engage any girl in conversation. i am aroused by real women. Girls seem to sense this energy and are more drawn to me as well..... i get hit on by girls now more than ever, lol. i was always self-confident about my size, as i am only 5'5" and 110 lbs, but now i truly do not care...because i can feel the inner fire burning also -- statistically, I believe it is true that men experience more orgasms than women. this addicts men to the physical aspect of sex, and they will do anything to have that physical experience, with ANYONE, hence, prostitution, et cetera. since women are more conservative, they are more discriminating with regard to partner and they must have their heart-energy attached as well. they also are more in-tune with the heart and soul orgasms that can occur in life... since being celibate, i receive joy and orgasm of SPIRIT by simply being in the COMPANY of women, if that makes sense. the "jing", or fierce, intense, primal willpower which is present as a result of being celibate, i channel into music, which is my passion. i can create more fiercely than ever before, and my determination is strong as an ox. i do not need to waste this willpower on expenditure of genetic material, lol. so, haha....the path to enlightenment....am i doing it right?
  15. Thought this was really on! Awesome breakdown on intimacy!!! Curious about what the fellow TBs think:
  16. I accomplished the 100 days of conserving Jing and thought i would share my experiences on what i feel to be a very beneficial practice. Note this post is directed towards men, i have no experience of conserving jing as a women...at least in this life. There are three possible outcomes of Jing conservation. 1. You give in to fantasies and release your Jing...thus failing 2. You become a very angry and irritable person for 100 days 3. You become a Dynamo of energy and grow in strength and power in every area of your life I have experienced all three of these outcomes when i attempted to conserve Jing in the past. Therefore there are 2 qualities that are required to conserve Jing successfully: Mental Clarity and Emotional Stability. Both qualities are complementary to each other. If you do not have Mental Clarity then you will lose to your fantasies. If you do not have Emotional Stability then you will end up getting very angry and saying and doing dumb shit. Being grounded is very important in this practice. The first couple of weeks are perhaps the most difficult because your not used to the increased Vitality and Horniness that comes with the practice but... eventually your energies plataeu and you will get used to it. Mental Clarity becomes even more important as the 100 days go by because i have found that if you fantasize during the day but still don't release Jing...those fantasies will carry over to your sleep and it will find a way to release itself during dream-time. All of these qualities are built upon a certain level of maturity that has been reached through cultivation. Benefits of Semen Retention Conserving Jing really is a fantastic practice. When you conserve your sexual energy it really is amazing how powerful you become in your own life...but in order to conserve jing effectively and use it to your benefit you must learn how to channel the inner fire. If fire is not channeled properly then you will be come an extremely agitated person. When conserving Jing it has been my experience that instead of exploding your sexual energy though your dick it will start exploding inwards and manifest in your everyday life. Everything i did developed a new level of intensity and involvement...I became more productive and motivated in all areas of my life: i did better in school, chi-gung, and in my interpersonal relationships. People often wonder how great cultivators can dedicate 8 hrs a day to cultivating...but when you have so much excess sexual energy your whole being wants to DO DO DO. You feel like you have so much energy that you can do anything...and this energy must be channeled into something be it your esoteric practice or you building a business. You become a great tool of manifestation...all you need do is choose something to DO. But if you don't properly channel it into something it can drive you crazy. Perhaps the most important of all the things i learned while cultivating is that when the mind is not constantly bickering then conserving your Jing becomes a natural state. When you discipline the monkey mind then conserving is easy...for those whom struggle too conserve and find that they can't.....go back to the drawing board....sit...and continue developing clarity....when you approach this practice with a reasonable level of clarity...then it is as easy as breathing. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As a side note i'd say that conserving Jing along combined dual cultivation is in many ways a superior practice than celibacy...but one that takes a very high level of discipline and self-control. On the other hand Celibacy paired with conserving is better for those that wish to not develop any attachments and do not want to be tied down by a partner (ascetics). In such cases it is a simpler and much better practice to cultivate. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am coming back to edit this post because when i first wrote it i was ignorant of the fact that actually having a spiritual practice for transmutation of jing was so important....i did not realize this simply because i was already practicing my Nei-Gong very intensively and had never conserved without it. Having a transmutation practice is very important in order to effectively channel the built up sexual energy. If you don't already have a spiritual practice then some simple practices for this purpose are Meditating on the Lower Dantien or The Microcosmic Orbit. Both meditations can be found readily available online and are discussed in this thread. -My 2 cents, Peace