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  1. Hey Bums, In part one we we started looking at the legendary lost island of Atlantis - based especially on Plato's classical description. We talked about its possible location, the environment it supposedly existed in, its development, achievements, and eventual demise. Surely there would still be infinitely more to say about all that, and - no doubt - I as well as others will come back to that topic as we see fit. However, at this time, I would like to take a closer look at the influence that Atlantis - as the most advanced civilization of its time it is portrayed as - may have exerted on other places and cultures. For according to so many sources, some groups of Atlanteans left the island before or at the time of its destruction, settled in various locations and passed on their knowledge to the local natives. The most prominent variation of this theory concerns ancient Egypt, a rather loaded topic that invariably leads to endless debates. Unfortunately, we will have to come back to it nevertheless - in due time! However, on the opposite side of the Atlantic, we still find the monumental buildings, the mythology and indeed the living descendants of an ancient civilization noted for "the most sophisticated and highly developed writing system in pre-Columbian Americas - as well as for its art, architecture, mathematics, calendar, and astronomical system" (Wikipedia): The Maya of Central America. Not only had they reached a similar level of cultural development like the ancient Egyptians, they also shared so many particular traits with them that it does not seem far-fetched to assume that both had the same mother civilization standing at their cradle. Again, "America's greatest psychic" Edgar Cayce made some intriguing statements for us to consider. According to the sleeping prophet, around the time of the final destruction of Atlantis (which he set at about 10.500 BC, not far removed from the date of the cataclysmic comet impact that we now know ended the Ice Age), an Atlantean called Iltar entered the Mexican Yucatan with a group of some ten people and erected some temples, one of which actually contained "a hall of records of Atlantis". However, these first temples "were destroyed at the period of change physically in the contours of the land." Alright, let's stop for a moment to think... Is this at all plausible? Well, we know that at the end of the Ice Age, when the glaciers melted, a considerable land mass was submerged in the Yucatan area (much as what happened in the Bahamas archipelago as we have seen already in my previous Atlantis thread). So yes, that alone could explain why we are not likely to find any buildings extant from those early times, unless (perhaps) we go diving in the right places. What else has academic science to tell us? For instance this: González et al: The Arrival of Humans on the Yucatan Peninsula: Evidence from Submerged Caves in the State of Quintana Roo https://www.researchgate.net/publication/310750546_The_arrival_of_humans_on_the_Yucatan_Peninsula_Evidence_from_submerged_caves_in_the_state_of_Quintana_Roo_Mexico There you have it. Once again, it can be said that Cayce was nothing short of being... prophetic! Dear Atlantis aficionados and critics alike - I am looking forward to whatever you may have to contribute to this thread! Just one request: Let's try to stay on topic please. Which is evidence and hypotheses regarding a supposed Atlantean influence on the prehistoric Americas. So anything pertaining to Atlantis per se (as long as more or less in line with Plato) would better placed in part 1 of my little project: Whereas for conceptions about Atlantean influence on Egypt, the Celts and so forth, I propose to open up especially dedicated threads in the future. Alright. Let's have some fun with this now... Michael
  2. Hi fellow Bums As a few of you may already know, I spent the last one year or so researching the history of some ancient cultures (such as the ones in Egypt, the Americas, Britain, the Pyrenees, amongst others), leading all the way back to the legendary civilization of Atlantis which I believe to be a historical fact. - Based on so many pieces of evidence. This topic is linked to a larger book project I have been pursuing for a couple of decades by now. In regards to its historical section, I am intending to share some of my source material as well as original work in a series of threads, in the hope of finding some resonance and, if possible, a fruitful discussion. Also, be free to ask any questions that may come to mind - I will answer them to the best of my ability. A good place to start our journey into the deep past seems to be the temporal demarcation line drawn by the end of the Last Glacial Period. However, before we depart, it seems to be a good idea to take a look at the topic of the ice ages in more general terms. Since very early geological times, our planet has been going through a series of ice ages, alternating with long warm periods in which our globe was entirely free of ice. The first ice age (called the Huronian) started about 2.4 billion years ago and lasted for 300 million years. It was later followed by the Cryogenian Ice Age lasting 165 million years from 800-635 mya, which was possibly the most severe of them all and might have produced a “Snowball Earth”, in which the Earth iced over completely. A minor series of glaciations then occurred from 450-420 mya, which was followed by more extensive glaciations again for 100 million years from 350-250 mya. More recently, an increase in glaciation on Earth started when ice began to build up over Antarctica about 36 mya during the so-called Eocene Epoch. It was probably related to the breakup of the supercontinent Gondwana, with a drift of the Antarctic continent toward the South Pole and the development of ocean passages around the Antarctica. Globally, temperatures markedly decreased then during the Middle Miocene (about 15 mya), probably as a result of the increased ice growth on Antarctica. The oceans cooled partly due to the formation of the Antarctic Circumpolar Current when ocean currents circled the Antarctic continent without reaching warmer latitudes. At the opposite pole, the Greenland ice cap began to develop in the Middle Pliocene, about 3 mya. Before then, Arctic areas were comparatively warm, with trees and bushes growing far north of the present treeline. The Quaternary Ice Age is the most recent ice age. Ice sheets began to spread over North America and Eurasia around 2.5 mya. This initial glaciation was followed by a series of warmer interglacials (each lasting 10,000-30,000 years) and renewed glaciations (each lasting 70,000-90,000 years) in alternation. Within the Quaternary Ice Age, the most recent phase of glaciation is called the Weichselian/ Wisconsin Glacial Epoch. During its peak, ice sheets covered extensive areas above 40-50º North in both Eurasia and North America. It reached its maximum around 18,000 BC, whereafter the glaciers slowly started melting. That glaciation phase ended for good - and indeed rather abruptly - around 9,600 BC. Due to the slowly melting ice sheets, the global sea-level rose about 60 meters between 18.000 to 9,600 BC, and an additional 50-60 metres until 6000 BC, when it finally reached the level it has today. During those times of rising sea-levels, many islands were covered by water and sediments, and at the same time, much of what once used to be coastal land is now underwater and tens of kilometers out to sea. This explains why man-made structures have been found submerged in various locations off the coasts, with many more supposedly yet to be found. Stories of a deluge in numerous cultures all around the globe may well represent 'collective memories' of those prehistoric changes. For instance, the Bahama Archipelago (identified by the "sleeping prophet" Edgar Cayce as the location of the lost civilization of Atlantis) used to be a coherent dry land mass off the coast of Florida. The part remaining above sea-level today is just a small fraction of its prehistoric extent. Other locations for Atlantis suggested by various researchers include the Greater and Lesser Antilles (also located in the Carribean) as well as the Azores. If interest warrants it, we will be looking into those various theories in more detail later. So while there remain many questions yet to be answered, it strikes me as rather remarkable that a date around 9,600 BC (i.e., around the end of the Weichselian/ Wisconsin Glaciation) was indicated for the destruction of the island of Atlantis in the very source of the story, Plato's late dialogues Timiaios and Critias. Plato's information seems to have come down to him via the Greek statesman Solon, "the wisest of the seven sage", who in turn had received it from Egyptian priests while visiting the very ancient city Sais in the western Nile delta. Again, we should have an opportunity to talk about that in far more depth later. I wish to conclude this introductory post on the note that the Quaternary Ice Age isn't over yet - it continues to the present day. Although the Earth is at present luckily in an interglacial called the Holocene Era, the Quaternary Ice Age might continue for possibly millions of years into the future, as have several past ice ages. If previous glacial-interglacial cycles are any indication of future cycles, it is likely that the present warm interglacial period will end sometime between tomorrow and 20,000 years from now. Then, massive glaciers will advance from the north again, covering much of North America and Eurasia. That being said, we do not need to fret over that possibility right now, as glaciers and ice sheets have been melting and the global sea-level has been rising at an average rate of 1.8 mm per year since 1961, and 3.1 mm per year since 1993. If this trend continues and the ice caps should fully melt, it is estimated that the Antarctica Ice Sheet would contribute more than 60 metres of sea-level rise, and Greenland would contribute more than 7 metres. Go figure! However, it is not unusual for relatively short, somewhat warmer periods to occur both during glacial and interglacial phases. As for the current rise in temperature, its exact causes remain controversial (not least on this board) - however, that is not the theme of this thread! Please reserve THAT debate for one of the thread especially dedicated to it, such as this one: Here, I intend to be looking at the Atlantis legend as shared by Plato in connection with the end of the last Ice Age (to put it more simply) and then to move on to explore other aspects of that lost civilizations and the inheritance that may have been received from it by subsequent cultures that we have more factual knowledge about. An important source for what has been presented here was P.P. Flambas' book Plato's Carribean Atlantis - A Scientific Analysis, which I warmly recommend to anybody with a serious interest in the topic. Material from various other sources has been added, of course. Please try to stay more on less on topic as outlined and try to post comments of a more general nature in our previous TDB Atlantis thread. Thanks! And feel free to discuss.
  3. The Children of the Law of One, & the Lost Teachings of Atlantis free onine books, meditation techniques gadgets, atlantis Jon Peniel's painting of the Himalayas Free Chapters from the Lost Teachings of Atlantis by Jon Peniel who was the head monk of the order of the Children of the Law of One and who first made the unadulterated teachings of the order available to the public. Before that, the teachings of the Children of the Law of One were taught only in Tibet or the Pyrenees mountains of Spain and could only be found if someone went there. Everything is in these teachings! The CLO was probably the first spiritual order on Earth, and the energy practices are the original energy practices. Most major religions have their roots in a teacher of the CLO, although most people who followed or now follow the religion would not usually know the founder was a CLO monk/teacher. Shargung La is the final place where the Children of the Law of One retreated to after the final destruction of Atlantis in 10,500 BC, they also went to Egypt, the Pyrenees, and the Yucatan. Many of the world's energy practices originate from Tibetan mountains and even the Shargung La area in Tibet, a warmer subtropical area inside the deepest gorge in the world, amidst the freezing Himalayas. Most energy or spiritual practices are related to the Children of the Law of One in some way or another I believe. What the CLO emphasize is unselfish love over all else. You can identify the true CLO teachers by their emphasis on unselfish love for all beings , returning to God by regaining universal consciousness and contact with god by direct experience, returning to oneness with god, and not emphasis on abilities, phenomena, power, or anything like that. Even in this world of darkness, selfish consciousness, and pain, there have always been the CLO who love all beings, who feel pain and compassion with understanding for the beings on earth and the condition of the beings on earth. They have always been lights shining in the darkness, guiding humanity, and are here for those that really are ready, those that can awaken to their inner being, and truly improve themselves to return to their original angelic states and transcend the human world. However, in 1990 the CLO monks in Tibet and elsewhere were attacked and many were killed, there are now few left in this world and in 1998 the teachings were made public for the first time in history since the days of Atlantis Here is the opening chapter of the book "The Children of the Law of One and the Lost Teachings of Atlantis", from the first 2 pages Survivors of Atlantis- stargate atlantis? Survivors of the real lost city/continent. Free Chapters of the Lost Teachings of Atlantis Lost Teachings of Atlantis Foreword spiritual journey Chapter Three Sources and Descendants of the Teachings the religion of atlantis? Chapter Six Different Points of View Chapter Nineteen The Children of the Law of One Basic Meta-Physics of Science-Magic More articles- Frequently Asked Questions about us and spiritual growth earth changes spirituality articles Does God exist - who are you and what do you want? Jon Peniel New Year 2001 Message. New Year resolution and spiritulity An offshoot branch of the CLO( Children of the Law of One) that people can practice in modern times, is the Golden Rule organization or GRO. Benjamin Franklin's secrets to relationships & personal success
  4. C.C. Zain and the Sacred Tarot

    C. C. Zain and the Sacred Tarot The most authentic version of the Tarot, and the closest to the original used by Thoth, that is in existence in modern times has got to be the Sacred Tarot brought to us by C.C. Zain. http://en.wikipedia....wiki/C._C._Zain More about Elbert Benjamine- http://www.light.org...ght-lessons.cfm And- http://www.lightofeg...es/Default.aspx
  5. Free Authentic Thoth Tarot Readings

    Most people while at fairs, set ups at the mall, or places like that, have encountered people offering things like palm reading, fortune telling, and tarot card readings. To a lot of people these things may not be interesting, or not worth the money. Most people dont really believe these things are going to help them much or are authentic. Here is the original Tarot. It is different than the version the public is familiar with, which is probably only a few hundred years old at the most, and was probably systemized in its current form, in Europe. Tarot is not meant exactly for fortune telling, but rather, for understanding ones spiritual path, and spiritual develoment. This is the most authentic version available today, and is the closest to the original version systemized by Thoth that exists. Free Thoth Tarot Readings- http://www.atlantis.to/free-tarot.htm
  6. Teachers in History

    Throughout the ages one common teaching can be seen to have been taught . The One God, the God that is All, that is the One totality of everything. Amilius- Edgar Cayce on Atlantis
  7. In Search of Rennes Le Chateau

    In Search of Rennes Le Chateau- Inside the Gates of Atlantis near Rennes le Chateau France Giant, Unknown Megaliths in France near Rennes le Chateau Unknown Megaliths from Rennes le Chateau France
  8. Magical Egypt

    Here is John Anthony West's amazing 8 part series Magical Egypt. Exploring the true knowledge of, history of, origin of, and historical importance of, the ancient religion of ancient Egypt. What some people have called the Egyptian Mystery school. It is incredible how advanced their knowledge was, in many instances surpassing modern science’s knowledge or abilities. This is quite a contrast from today, where some people often think of religious knowledge as being inferior to scientific knowledge. Many people have wrote about, speculated about, or tried to revive the ancient Egyptian Mystery religion, and many people wish they had the knowledge of the ancient Egyptian Mysteries, but this is the best source I know of where it has been studied by an independent egyptologist, based on archaeology, science, and facts. Magical Egypt Episode 1- The Invisible Science Episode 2- The Old Kingdom and the Older Kingdom Still Episode 3- Descent Episode 4- The Temple in Man Episode 5- Navigating the Afterlife Episode 6- Legacy Episode 7- Illumination Episode 8- Cosmology
  9. The Temple of Mu

    Manmade structures under the Pacific- border of Mu In recent times the remains of a prehistoric civilization have been discovered in the sea off Japan at Yonaguni. These remains were last above water 12,000 years ago. This is the great lost civilization that once existed, which sunk beneath the Pacific Ocean. Some people have called the civilization Mu, and some have called it Lemuria. Here's a really good article on it- http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=1678 The Temple of Mu- Short clip about it High Quality video- The Temple of Mu Website- http://www.templeofmu.com/ The islands out in the Pacific are the outskirts of where the land of Lemuria or Mu once was. Some people have also noted that many ancient monuments strangely seem to be built for very large beings. Very few people know a lot about Lemuria, but here is some information- http://www.brotherhoodoflife.com/styled-6/Mu%20Page.html There are researchers who are saying that some ancient accounts about it's location do actually conform to scientific ideas about earth plates, etc. Possibly along what geologists now call the "superswell" area in the Pacific where there are now many underwater volcanoes and cenotes, which were not always underwater. Some people also say Mu was even older than Atlantis. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/atlantid...p_lemuria_3.htm There are other legends which connect to it, such as the Indian legend of Lumania. They may have constructed the moon itself http://www.nii.net/~obie/historygold.htm All the researchers I have read about who examined the Yonaguni monuments and temples, stated that it is definite that at least parts of it are manmade, if not all of it. And it's massive- http://www.lightnet.co.uk/informer/civilisations/japan.htm http://www.morien-institute.org/yonaguni.html http://www.morien-institute.org/yonaguni_schoch1.html http://www.morien-institute.org/imk12.html#mizostairs http://www.xpeditionsmagazine.com/magazine...apan/japan.html http://www.toriitraining.com/yonaguni.htm http://www.morien-institute.org/interview1_MK.html http://www.grahamhancock.com/gallery/underwater/yonaguni.htm http://www.grahamhancock.com/images/gallery/yonaguni/1-13.jpg Man made pathway- Big enough to swim through
  10. Underwater cities off Cuba part of lost Atlantis Skepticism and Science are defeated Videos with images of the underwater cities discovered off Cuba, consisting of Pyramids, Cubic structures, Domes, Metallic structures, and Roads, 2000 feet under the sea- Part 2- The World's Mysterious Places- Edgar Cayce on Atlantis Mysterious Places: Atlantis (Morgana's Observatory) Article about Plato's description The Cycle of Time "Brushing Off the Enshrouding Dust": The Ancient Atlantic Continent http://www.pureinsight.org/node/5437 The Ancient Hebrew Kabbalistic and Magic Alphabets Kabbalah Tarot and Hebrew Alphabet are both 22 parts + the name of god YHVH. Greek and even English could be more distantly related, english alphabet is 26 parts. Tarot is where heiryoglyphs come from Tarot - Crystalinks 40,000 year old footprints in mexico cause evolutionists to scramble to make desperate and irrational exuses. Mexican Footprints lol! "evolutionists unhappy with results!" Notice how they claim, "it must be either a whole magnitude wrong and they must be way older, or they're not footprints at all then probably, or this or that excuse, but it can't be what the dating methods indicated!" Lol @ scrambling to make excuses and reinterpret things http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2006/0..._footprints.asp There are over 100 submarine plateaus and ridges scattered throughout the oceans, dotted with islands, and many may be submerged continental fragments that have not been completely ‘oceanized’, as suggested by ‘anomalously’ thick crust and finds of ‘impossibly’ ancient continental rocks. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/arqueologia/eastern_island/easter04.htm More potential lost continents- Ice Age civilizations destroyed, as well as massive extinctions of animal species, such as the Wooly Mamoth, Wooly Rhino, and Sabretooth Tiger- Earth changes, we know the exact dates The Official Graham Hancock Website: Underworld NASA GISS: Science Briefs: Sea Level Rise, After the Ice Melted and Today Geotimes - June 2002 - Glacial Mystery ANTARCTIC ICE SHEET KEY TO SUDDEN SEA LEVEL RISE IN THE PAST http://eobglossary.gsfc.nasa.gov/Newsroom/...0203288330.html The reality is that sea levels rose quite rapidly. Ice age map, but they forgot Atlantis, anyways we see most of the world was Frozen, and Africa was covered in lakes and water prior to 10,500 BC. In any case most the the habitable lands centered at the equator prior t0 10,500BC are now under water- Not the best place to be running around throwing spears at animals- Glaciers before 10.500 BC Glaciers after 10,500 BC they melted and the earth's tilt axis shifted The "Bullard" fit should be called the "Bullshit" fit Sunken continents vs. continental drift Map There is simply no fit. They don't even fit together and its a big lie! We also see that this area was once the edge of a continent now lost in the Atlantic Ocean. Obviously a continent existed between north and south america in the Atlantic Ocean, Plate tectonics is nonsense What kind of catacalysm hit the globe so hard that we forgot about a whole continent full of pyramids, civilized and indeginous cultures?