Samurai Mountain man

Okay then Sree, perhaps you are right. Perhaps one should learn how do die. Perhaps there's a Tao of diying.

What is on your mind, where do we start?

Yeah I mean, what's wrong with being a housewife?

You CLEAN where you live

you COOK for people you love and yourself

you RAISE the fruit of your loins.

Isn't that part of living? In an ideal home, both spouses share household duties so it's not like there should be a need for either to be a slave.

What is the Tao of Dying then? where'd you come up with that concept anyway? The Tao is the Tao and then there's some more Tao if you feel like you could use some more. What's the big deal about dying anyway? Death is the mistery and such is it's nature, thus only by dying can it be solved.

"Since life and death are each other's companions, why worry about them? All beings are one." -Zhuanzi

The older I get; the more dogmas I reject. T

he more dogmas I reject; the more complex and multi-colored everything gets.

That is why people choose to believe in this or that; things were a hell of a lot easier to cope with back down the road.

Some of those comics were pretty fucking funny, some other are just plain nuts.

I agree with Stosh.

It's like bringing a sword to a gun fight. There's a time and a place for everything, learning to adapt oneself through resolve and flexiblity is better than to master a single thing and then be left clueless when we're facing a situation not suited for our rigid school of thought.

So knowing is not enough, we must apply at all times. Take a second to think about what you have to do and check that big book of ours called brain, asking: "What do I know that I can apply?" the esscence of which is then to become fuel for doing, and later for non-doing. This is more useful when we're facing the tough times and the hard choises, when things are looking grim or way too much to handle that's where all the sage quotes really come into play when you apply them and you understand them on a whole new level -the practical one- and as you do this, they become part of you, this wisdom is absorbed and it fills the voids left by your ego and empties the fullness of your ego.

Understanding the ego is a mental construct and a coping mechanism that must be kept in check, you hack it away until all that remains of it is the useful bits.

Take whatever wisdom you can use from anywhere you can find it, wisdom is not heavy, it does not occupy spaces and it will not drag you down. Take as much as you like, it is an infinite well that does not dry up, share it as you can, there's plenty for all. Just like Tao.

Im gonna go out and say it before anyone beats me to it:

Feminism, like machism; further cements the divide between sexes and promotes misunderstanding between both parts. Why c

"that's what a patriach would say to supress the feminist uprising and ideological development of the opressed sisterhood; check your privilege misogynist rapist; all men should be castrated!".

What does it take to grow ginseng? I've been interested in growing something legal useful in my backyard or something. Ginseng seems like a pretty good idea now that you mention it, I know some family members would appreciate me giving them some of the home-grown stuff.

All I know is I've done a good job of cultivating that clumsy clever flavor. And I should be doing a good job of exuding it here as well. What's more clumsy to a daoist than someone who's visibly clever. lol

Well I am not a very clever man, I don't see myself being very clever anyways. And this is not some weird form of ego-stroking faux humility; I honestly wish I was a little sharper. But oh well, I am a yang to a Yin and a Yin to a Yang.

So every day I have to stop myself from trying to be clever, Im a pretty blunt tool and that doesn't go away by forcing myself into being sharp. Kinda like wanting to cut down a tree with a maul. Maybe and after many days of hard labour you can crush it's trunk untill the bastard falls down but you still haven't "cut it down".

See what I mean? Im thinking "well that's a pretty clever example" but it's so elaborated, it reeks of trying-too-hard. Same lesson applies to every little thing you do in life. It's not about giving up and not giving your best into changing something, it's a whole different thing, a different approach at the "changing" bit, a meaning you understand or you dont.

And so it is the Tao, the harder you try to understand it the more indecipherable it becomes. then understanding (as microscopic as it might be) begins by accepting things as they are and as they might be; then you begin to peel away the layers of judgement and the terms of your acceptance thus making things clearer and clearer.

When you no longer accept through your terms, you no longer see with your own eyes, thus you are accepting as it really is...

Here's a thought:

A good meal Is one of life's finest pleasures. To sistematically deny pleasures is to deny our ability to sense them -to deny our nature- But just because we can enjoy a nice lamb doesn't mean we have to eat every lamb there is.

As with everything in life, balance is key, and balance is the pivotal point in which we may continue spinning, The hollow center of the wheel: Our Tao.

Now don't you just love that phrase? "The center of the wheel is hollow"

"the hollow at the center of the wheel"

Your talent is in the field of mechanical engineering. Thanks for your efforts in contributing to this thread.

That's so not true, I have no talent!

I love meat, I'm pretty carnivorous when it comes to diets.

But, like I said in a different thread. Im getting more and more bothered about industrialized cattle production of all forms of meat I consume. I don't think I'll just turn straight up veggie, but certainly trying to reduce my meat consumtion.

Now, about Chi development, I don't know a whole great deal and what I read always entail some form of deprivation of one thing or the other, that's just not my style.

To die is to die, life's a rollercoaster and at some point it's gonna have to stop. You know, laws of thermodynamics, energy conservation, entropy... that sort of things.

Truth is: Shit happens.

Truth is: Shit changes.

Truth is: Shit's always the same.

Truth is: You can't tell what's true and what's shit.

Maybe, maybe not. As far as I can tell, I've never died before so I don't know. Next time I die I'll try to remember what you said and see if you're right.

Right and it is this illusion that I can not truly see. The Truth.

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Behold.

The balance is in itself, it's always been there. Yin exists because there is yang and vice versa. The center, the pivotal point is... Is it Tao? It could be Tao, like the hollowness at the center of the wheel. It is tao; because like I always say: The Tao is all ecompasing.

The balance... Is there's no balance then? the balance is an illusion because it's got a name and it's not the true balance of all things. This then means that everything is balanced, even when it's not balanced... Because things have to go up before they can go down and that is the nature of the universe.

Dude im getting places here, it's like im hitting all sorts of proverbial levels in here. Maybe it's this coffee.

I've been reading in english taoist text for so long now!... But I insist : it's not the same... is not the same to read then in the original off course...

Thanks for the support to all of you... We'll be in contact.. no doubt of it!

 

Gracias por la data Samurai Mountain!! A veces no es sólo cuestión de inglés es de interpretación filosófica... y es bastante complicado conseguir en español... eso sin considerar el traductor!... Pero saber que hay alguien más por aquí que hable criollo sirve!

Tranqui. Yo creo que el truco es entender el mensaje. leer multiples traducciones ayuda bastante revelando "capas" en el texto que no se han visto antes. Yo he leido por lo menos 4 traducciones en ingles del TTC y dos en español, cada vez captando un poquito más que la lectura anterior.

Al final hay que recordar una cosa, sin el idioma original se pierde principalmente la poesía, más si el significado clave se capta, eso es lo que realmente importa.

There is yin within yang and yang within yin. and within each there is the other so forth and oposite. the equilibrium is Tao.

So yin yang's yin, yin yin's yang, yang's yang yin's etc..

"The truth? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"

Now, seriously: Welcome and I have an advice to spare if you'd care to read it.

Truth is more often a subjective point of view than what we think it is. Hal0f-truths is the stuff of what we hold as reality is made of, and for each half-truth there's a thousand half truths hidden in them.

Absolute truth is out there somewhere, most of those who claim to have it aren't the kind of people I like to listen to. those who are content with knowing little yet seeking for more, are -in my book- the true wise men of the world.

Entropy.

Hola sofía. Yo también soy hispanohablante. si hay dudas, estoy a la orden por acá por Tao bums. Cualquier clarificación de un texto en ingles que necesites puedo hacerlo por ti. Sin embargo con el Chino no te puedo ayudar.

Saludos y bienvenida.

How about be like the body?

That's pretty much what I said in my previous post.

All i am is this body and these thoughts, my body knows how to die and it'll die. My thoughts? my ego, my spirit, whoever I am besides my physical self? that'll also know how to return to whence it came when the time is right. we know how to die just as we know how to be born and how to live, there's a trillion different ways and they're all the same, little details aside.

I don't know if there's a heaven, reincarnation, an after life, a great void. I don't know and quite frankly I am at peace with not knowing and i am content with doing my own thing and not giving a damn. Don't know if anyone is able to understand that. Anyhow; Epicurus said it best:

Ya dig?

Every day countless cells in our bodies wither away and die and then new cells take their place.

Im pretty sure my body knows how to die.

Being is a hell of a lot better than doing. A lot easier too, once you've unlearned how not to be.