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I will even say never mind the lineages. For not all the students, and especially students of students of students got the transmission regardless of the lineages. Sad to say, there are masters of impeccable lineages who might not know what they are talking about, especially those who cannot fajing or tinging. You must have a Master who can deliver. At the minimum, a Master who can at least TingJing. You struck jackpot if you have a Master who can Fa Jing. And accept that just because he can, that might not mean that you can either. But at least, you getting in the right doorway. I had to discard so much dead weight and nonsense and made belief rubbish and that my cup was truly empty before I could taste the tea my Masters poured for me. Idiotic Taoist

Vaina, I hope you do not mind my answering your question here as I felt what I got to say be of use of others as well. And perhaps you might upload that video in this thread so folks know too. That guy is real. I looked for the alignments of his posture, referring often to the image on the mirror as shot of him was waist up. Throwing of others backwards would be a controlled fajing on his part. Regardless of taiji, or baiji , or baqua, hsingyi, the fajing must be there. At the very very minimum, if the instructor cannot yet fajing, he MUST be able to demonstrate clear ting jing (listening of jing) Aikido throws of very senior players (aka 6-7 dans) are of this nature. The listening of energy, and the divertion of energy makes the throw look unreal. Before I could get a somewhat working fah jing, I used ting jing to execute the throws. The knowing of his move, the decoying him in a pseudo pull to get his counter reaction to counter that pull, and adding the one ounce of force to his counter to send him back. When the master can tingjing, he will feel like smoke in your hand, and can tie you literally into knots. That is the very minimum of a Master to follow. Taoistic Idiot

I am now in Taiwan. Motherlode of Taoism and Taoist temples. Living continuation when Mainland China went on rampages of Cultural revolution. Against which Malaysia pale. I just landed a couple hours ago. Will be here for 3 weeks. I hope to meet my Taiji Masters too, and if they still alive, they were already very old twenty years ago. No tui shou for me as I now have only half a functional limb. My good right arm is now half good right arm. Wrote of that 2 years ago. And it aint better now 2 years later. And as said, it got worse. http://shanlung.livejournal.com/2011/07/17/ http://shanlung.livejournal.com/129541.html. Idiotic Taoist

Extract from a thread in this forum http://thetaobums.com/topic/24575-taijiquan-styles/page-3 My take on taijichan as martial art and another attempt to explain fajing Taijichuan martial arts I know folks might just want to do taijichan as an exercise. Nothing wrong at all with that. BUT they must do it with a Master who know taijichuan as a martial art. I make a further distinction. That Master must truly know taijichan as a martial art and not his interpretation of martial aspects of taijichuan. Taijichuan is not just waving and moving slowly of legs and arms. That is nothing but a parody of something truly profound. Almost like looking at the Ecce Homo restoration by Cecilia Gimenez and thinking that was what Ecce Homo by Elias Garcia Martinez all about. Taoistic Idiot

Isn't there a place for mellow herbs in a herb garden? Especially as that has a 3000 to 4000 year history in Chinese medical books, and indeed in books of many other people close to the Earth. In Taoism, as long as anything is in moderation, that is within the Tao. Idiotic Taoist

By all means, go get in touch with that despicable piece of s* Deng Ming Dao. He got so many years to prepare and craft the side of his story that he want to put into your ears. So easy for a piece of s* to make money. No qualms to steal from others, steal from others , package that into his books and have his minions and accolades to sing hosannas to his theft while he laugh all the way to his bank. Go cradle and admire your fraud stealing and lifting works of others. I go on to respect and protect the name of John Blofeld Just as you have the right to decide as you wish to decide and to make public what you decide, I and other readers here have the right to decide the kind of person that you are in accepting frauds and therefore have no ethics at all, and whatever that you write will forever be considered in that light. As I said a few times before. Go the way that you chose to go. Taoistic Idiot

Kicking this up. For folks new to me and taijichuan. I wrote much of my background in MA and taijichuan in this thread Not that I think you learn anything from what I wrote unless you are already well grounded and with a true Master In which case you need not what I wrote as you barely able to digest what your Master is giving you. Taoistic Idiot

Forget the chi and the Tao. Kill LaoTzu if you see him on his ox coming towards you. Try hard not to grow up and be cynical from the child that is actually you. Or see with eyes that know this may be the very last day of your life. Idiotic Taoist

The only true guidance will only come from one who know. And the passing of the fire will not be from words. The 3 Masters that I had the fortune to know could not know how to say how they did it Except that they can do at will while those without a clue will wax lyrical, with a straight face as well, on Tao and Chi and Love and Universe while waving arms and legs slowly. I, having crossed that gate even if I could not do all my Masters did, have no clue in telling my own son who loved Aikido how I did it, other than it did not come from waving arms and legs slowly and thinking of love and oneness with everything. Idiotic Taoist

When I started on my road of Tao, it was not easy at all. There were hardly any books on Taoism then as compared to now. The Tao Te Ching and other books on Taoism were dry, academic and perhaps written by translators who were closet Christians with axe to grind. I have my doubts anyone at way could ever be inspired by those kind of books to go to the Tao. Luckily there were the books by John Blofeld. He opened my eyes to Taoism viscerally. I owed him thanks and gratitude much more than I can say. And from time to time again, I would re-read his accounts of travels and his meetings with Taoist Masters and Adepts finding his dialogues with them a key to understanding what can not be understood. When I was in living in Hongkong, I was delighted to go to some of the places Blofeld had mentioned in Hong Kong and China and Hua Shan In the 90s, Hongkong still retained a lot of the old Hong Kong, and China had not yet exploded into an orgy of developement. While of course, the Masters Blofeld talked about were long gone, the places still had the atmosphere of what I had read. So it was in early 96 that I was doing one of my re-read of Blofeld and as a result what Blofeld wrote was fresh in my mind. A few days later, my wife bought me one of Deng Ming Dao's book 'Chronicles of TAO' by Deng Ming Dao.It was supposedly the story of Deng's Taoist master Kwan Saihung, I was very much into Chinese Martial arts at that stage. It was absolutely clear that Kwan Sai Hung never knew Taoist related martial arts and what he knew was gained from that idiotic Carradine KungFu series and D grade novels that he read. That was bad enough and I should have just used his book as a door stop and save me from a lot of anguish. But the book was so bad that I compelled myself to read on just to know how bad it could be. And came on the part where Deng Ming Dao stole from Blofeld and writing that as his lessons via a coined up character of Kwan Sai hung. Can you all imagine I would laugh at it? Or would I be very furious at this dirtbag of Deng Ming Dao? Clearly a thief ripping off works from people much better than himself. In 96, I was a very lone voice in the wilderness in the pre Internet days of Taoism. My evidence was clear as can be seen in my first letter here. And slowly I swung over the views of those in my group against the vicious attacks on me by Deng and his minions. I had been fighting that 20 years, perhaps long before you know even of the word Tao. I hardly expect to have to resume this fight for honesty here. And instead , I met with weaved up explanations how a thief is good. From some course done in the college, to dropping of good authors into that cesspool Deng is wallowing in, to Talmundic, Tibetan and eventually, the kitchen sink will be thrown into this thread as well. Knowledge of what you been through in courses seemed useless if you do not have a sense of ethics in you. My mouth dropped the other day in reading below http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22459815 A prominent barrister specialising in reproductive rights has called for the age of consent to be lowered to 13. Barbara Hewson told online magazine Spiked that the move was necessary in the wake of the Jimmy Savile scandal to end the "persecution of old men". She also said that complainants should no longer receive anonymity. The NSPCC called her views "outdated and simply ill-informed" and said to hear them "from a highly experienced barrister simply beggars belief". And if 13 years not young enough, why not make that 5 years or less? So if the law is inconvenient for your pet old men who love kids, or your darling plagiarising Deng Ming Dao, the law should be changed? Morals also be changed? Because you can quote from a hundred and one unrelated stuff but you can make them relate? To your convenience and satisfaction? In the same way, declarations of folks here that Deng is good simply beggars belief. Walk your own way then. Allow me to remain an anachronism while you happily embraced and have your soft spot in and enjoy your fake repulsive plagiariser and the fake entity he recreated from the works of others Idiot on the Path

Then why ever bother with lineages? If fake will do, then be happy , and even be in esthetic bliss cuddling the fake. Might as well conjure up whatever you have in mind. Surely, what you conjured yourself will be much better than the fake in conjuring or plagiarising from the real. Let us all discard the real and go for the fakes. Let us be very happy with the fakes. Throw away the real as the world of fakes has no place for the real. Go on and promote the fake over the real. Go to the seminars and ask others to go the seminars given by the fakes. If that is the kind of world you want, by all means, go for that. Just as I allow you and your world of the fakes, allow me to remain in my world of the real. Idiotic Taoist

Is Deng Ming Dao plagiarising to be Taoist? What makes you think I am angry? I am just giving a clear description of Deng Ming Dao. Not more, not less. Just in case anyone else trying to elevate Deng from his cesspit must know. And please, no more throwing of good honest authors into that cesspit of Deng and try to say they are like him, or even worse, innuendo that he is like them.

I must commend DragonsNectar for the patience. But I accept in this world that some not only cannot see, but revel in their blindness. I said also before horses can be led to the water. But if they do not drink, I take it as their karmic destiny to die of thirst. I have no regret. Idiotic Taoist

A piece of s* is a piece of s*. A pat of cowdung is a pat of cowdung. Deng Ming Dao is a piece of s* and a pat of cowdung combined and fermented together. Despite hocus pocus of trying to make Deng smell clean, Deng remains a piece of s* and a pat of cowdung.

Could be. I have no qualms at meeting baiters, regardless of what they major in and what term papers that they studied, can that be reason enough to drag geniune word class authors into the gutter where Deng Ming Dao wallow in? To cover them with the same mud that Deng coated himself in? Fair to those other authors? Idiotic Taoist

Another way to look at it is the the more empty, the more hollow , the more useless the teaching of taiji, the more they need to rely on profound names to part a fool from his money. A lot easier to coin profound names, and descriptions with chi running up and down North and South then to deliver the real goods. But of course, if the man can truly toss people attacking him with no efforts at all (after assuring yourself it is not a con job ), then you are in the presence of a true Master. And whatever he say will carry weight. If that guy say his knowledge is too sacred to show you and do nothing but talk and talk and talk, you are in the presence of a con man or a fool who want to waste your time and money. But then, it is your time and your money, so do as you please with it. Idiotic Taoist

Laugh as you wish. Come on! No need to pussy foot here with me. Tell all loud and clear that you think Deng Ming Dao is not a fraud and plagiariser lifting works from Blofeld and others and from D grade pulp fiction mixed with his own crap.G Go on and promote the seminars by Deng and Kwang Sai Hung. and fill their hats with $$$ when they asked for $$$$ for their temples. I know it must be very amusing to you to make the innuendoes that Dante was a fraud and plagiariser, same as Deng Ming Dao That Cyrano also another fraud and plagiariser same as Deng Ming Dao that Merimee another fraud and plagiariser same as Deng Ming Dao Mark Twain and Dodgson another plagiariser and fraud the same as Deng Ming Dao So I am supposed to sit on my hands while Deng strut about and their minions want to wave palm leaves and shout hosannas to what he plagiarised? Is Deng the Taoist teacher you talked about? My turn to laugh. ROTFLMAO Taoistic Idiot

Nouel Alba had the decency to apologise and taken down her begging page for donations. Deng Ming Dao on the other hand, go on collecting royalties based on what he plagiarised or lifted from D grade pulp fiction mixed with a load of crap. Kwan Sai Hung go on as a fictional fraud pretended to teach the Tao and martial arts based on the fiction he and Deng coined up together while laughing on the way to their bank. I never felt that those kind of scums will have people jumping to defend them. Truth is of no value at all. Cheats and frauds the vogue thingy nowadays. Taoistic Idiot

Did Dante took the writings of others and presented that as his adventures in hell? Did Cyrano took the writings of others in his accounts of travels to the Moon etc etc ? Did Merimee took the writings of others .. hmmmm even so, he, Andersen and Aesop and others made it clear they were collecting folk tales handed down. Did Mark Twain took the writings of others and presented that as his own? Did Lewis Carroll took the writings of others and presented that as his own? Did Lance Armstrong never take performance enhancing drugs? If you felt Deng is your hero in plagiarising Blofeld, do not let me stop you. I am certainly not the policeman of Tao. And the Tao do not need me or any other people in policing the Tao. Go build your altar to that fraud Deng. Deng even appear in Facebook to give pointers on altars. I only wonder where he plagiarise that from? From Blofeld or from D grade pulp fiction? Or just crap he conjured up for laughs at the fools who decide to follow him? Maybe you might ask him which D grade pulp fiction he stole from as I never read those kind of crap. So after this will you go and fight for Lance Armstrong next as a real honest to goodness genuine sportsman? Do not forget to give your donation to Nouel Alba . I am just an Idiot who do not know the better ways such as yours. Idiotic Taoist.

Tell me what is so devote about following the words of a fraud like Deng? The better you can worship at such altars advised by a fraud? Who plagiarise left and right intersperse with stuff he lifted from B grade fantasy novels? To each their own. Enjoy your fantasy world created by a fraud.

Deng Ming Dao is a fraud. Thread below all on that fraud. Deng & Blofield works. Is it ethical?http://thetaobums.com/topic/27637-deng-blofield-works-is-it-ethical/

Kicking this up for new comers here Idiotic Taoist

Never occured to me to think along that line. Do the fish in the water know what is water? I think I find it easier to ponder on Wulung tea than trying to think for ghost or demons. For that matter, do God knows death? Or thats only something he sadistically, or with great compassion, inflict on living entities. Shit! I think I go back to my Wulung tea. Idiotic Taoist

Titles meant a lot to you! If not grandiose enough, then coin yourself a grand title to cloak yourself in. A kind of do-it-yourself Emperor New Clothings. You should think of taking up taijichuan. I am sure with your deep insights and expertise, before you even finished a 3 months once a week course, you be no less than a Grandmaster of taijichuan. Easily outranking me as I am merely a student. In about everything I do, I am very happy to remain a student. I free to ask as I wished. With about all being so full of themselves and what they know and never having to learn no more, I happy to remain a student. I have been using my handle as Idiotic Taoist, or Taoistic Idiot (which ever you chose on me) for about 20 years now. Maybe longer than the time you even realised that there is such a thingie as the Tao or Taoism. And why you bother with this tired old set of beliefs? Go create one of Sreeism. Might be a better money spinner than whatever racket you are in. And build an empire to have your own Gulfstream and fleets of RR. Easy with the money you get by flogging off your Sree Altar to one and all. No need to send that to fetch your minions and acolytes and PhD students and assist professorships. They should wipe ashes on foreheads and trudge behind you singing glory to Sree or whatever you can conjure for them to chant. Idiot on the Path

HA HA HA HA HAAAA ROFLMAO! Not only is Sree casting pearls galore left and right in addition to his aspersions and innuendoes in rolling barrages across the field. Flattening all that will not agree with him or pay him the homage that he craved and yearned for. What do I see now but profused offerings of PhDs and assistant professorship as well. All his to give as he wishes. How about telling us which academic he is from? That is so free with $$$$ for Sree to throw even in times of recession? Guess next he will throw in his Gulfstream.and fleet of RRs to ferry anyone signing up to be his minion and acolytes Sree should take his medications properly or the only farm he is going to will be the funny farm. Nah! nix that! Sree is so entertaining and positively delightful cute and adorable character. Taoistic Idiot