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Read what Otis wrote or did you even bother.

Thanks Ralis, for your input. Are you attempting to control or censor me.. surely that cant be.

Many varied posts can co exist along your outraged ones, Ralis. There is room for a wide range of responses from conventional piety, genuine grief, bombast, ponderous pontification, platitude, and for Pol Pot discussion too. I would love to see a wide range of responses form people who feel free to offer whatever they have, from indifference upwards. We dont have to mouth PC platitudes here. And we dont do that in the UK, hence my cultural sharing.

Humour as a response to Hitler is current in the UK on a regular basis, still the processing goes on. Not demonising. Endlessly puncturing his inflation, spreading the lesson over and over again against extremism.

Extremists just dont have a flexible, real, responsive sense of humour. Nor do psychopaths.

Keep laughing... ie Keep flexible, keep the flow, dont freeze, keep the heart alive.

How would it have been if the Germans had laughed at Hitler's ranting, slapped him on the back and taken him for a beer. And shown him a cat that looked like him.

Otis wrote a very thoughtful post and the whole thread deteriorates into a discussion about Hitler's mustache. Cat you are supposed to be moderating, not sidetracking topics.

Is it a sidetrack? Are you sure?

Congrats on making your way through the labyrinth. (Or that part of it, at least.)

Welcome to the forum, hope you enjoy.

 

This happens when you mix humour with wisdom and severe in a topic.

I can understand the innuendo joke Cat and Sloppy hinted.

A half serious thing from astrology : It is said that Charly Chaplin

had a zodial setting which is same as Hitler. But he decided to conquer the movie world

with his jokes.

Same can be said about Ghandi. He has also a very negative aspect in his zodiak but

he choose a other way "Nonviolent resistance".

 

I forgot the imperalist in japan also like to choose

this style ouf moustache and hair style.

 

Q

Not just the imperialists in japan, Q...

That moustache is the one thing Hitler still owns even though he is long dead, nobody can wear that moustache now (except perhaps Robert Mugabe) so it's time to reclaim it back as a legitimate style choice, the final thing to be liberated from Nazi control, whose with me?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

anyone?

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=9-A6-Y55Hno

I see nothing humorous in regards to his facial hair.

I had always heard he was trying to be in style by adopting the style of the famous actor, Charlie Chaplin.

ah,thanks, I see. Now there are houses joining in the whole celeb emulation thing :

http://www.dailymail...elebrities.html

Humorous it is not!! Mass psychosis as displayed by an entire population being led to complete destruction by a psychopathic sociopath, is in no way humorous.

You think his facial hair was mass psychosis?

I've always wondered, Hitler, who your stylist was. Great sense of humour re. facial hair.

I read that in the Evening Standard.

Not to make you home sick nor nuffin but... anyway: close your eyes and if someone told you it was a tibetan chant..

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=KvnzIeW-qHM

I don't think you can do this mystical thing without some level of control. So in a sense this is suppression or inhibition of some tendencies in your being - for instance habitual negative thoughts. But I also agree that its not about sexual repression.

 

I think the problem is that we start from a state of confusion - so we have to start by sorting out the wheat from the caff. Also we have been conditioned to think certain ways about sex which may be harmful. So we do have to purify in a relative sense. But also it is true that it is all about disclosing to ourselves the true nature of our selves an dour sexual energy which you can't do if you are suppressing what is an essential part of yourself.

Do we have to supress or inhibit habitual neg thoughts? Is it an effective way to transform them? I think we watch them, listen to them, bring them to the light, dont attach to them, dispassionately observe ourselves being pupeteered by them, suffer them, and move on, use taoist or other techniques to purify, purify, purify, and then purify some more.

If by 'inhibit' you mean when we think someone is a complete asshole , we dont splurge our thought out at them, then I agree we do that. But I think we do more than that. We work with the thought to dissolve it, with humour and awareness at our lack of empathy so that we get to a place of neutrality or at worst a comfortable 'no thanks' instead of a reactive repudiation.

If we only inhibit, and dont transform, we are in a position of no change, no growth.

I wouldnt like to think that I would be tempering negative thought responses in the same endless way ad infinitum. That would be 'manners' and 'being polite' which is a good discipline in its own right, but not enough for a practitioner, I'd have thought.

I know that when I share doubts and negative responses with you,Apech, for example, doing that removes the charge from them and they dissolve each time with less to them than before. If I inhibited them to the extent that I didnt share them, and I wasnt able to work with them, they would cause me grief and impede my progress/clarity.

Needing a consort ... yes I can go with that ... but apparently Mr. Baba liked to massage people's genitals with oil ... even that might be ok if there was some kind of context for it ... but yes maybe its something we don't understand.

well, you know the saying."If its too hard, I cant understand it."...

Yes I read it, hence the youtube clip - to make it more accessible than a PDF people might not bother to download.

Thanks for posting.

I also hope bums read it with an open mind and heart.

As you know Joe, each human has a Divine Ego and a Human Ego.

 

The Divine Ego will keep asking us to transcend.. to put out thoughts of compassion, patience, control over your thoughts.o

 

The Human Ego? Just keep thinking about hunger, lust, anger, basically the 7 sins and more..

 

So if one is to surrender all his thoughts, that means you are basically gonna let both the Human Ego and Divine Ego run their thoughts through you..

 

and if you are an unevolved creature, the negative thought-forms of the Human Ego will drown out the positive thought-forms of the Divine Ego..

 

This is why samadhi and stillness meditation is so necessary .. you have to still and destroy the thought-forms of the Human Ego so that the Divine Ego will come through the void of stillness and communicate with you..

 

Yes IT IS about suppression..

 

It is about Suppressing the negative thoughts of your Human Ego so that you can safely surrender to the positive thoughts of your Divine Ego

 

Thank you Joe.. everything is clear now.. Thank you..

Joe is right. And it isnt about supression. No supression required.

Think dissolve, dismantle, unbind, pass by, unattach.. and a host of other words like that..none of them are the action of supression.

Supression strengthens resistance.

My hunch is that at a high level of development ones needs a consort if one has that active reaching out impulse within one's being. Otherwise the free flowing of ones sexuality may well be considerd unboundaried by others who needs must have a boundaried sexuality.

I dont think everyone has the active reaching out kind of sexuality.

I dont want to think of guru 'molestation' as actually 'merely' that, I would prefer to think of it as something we are not understanding.

Having said that.. sexuality isnt just a wild horse, it's a herd of wildebeest, so....

Have heard, manitou, as a refinement of the 'guilt or shame' thing, that cancer comes about when there is prolonged waivering/indecision and the cells waiver and over- produce in a stagnant way. So any prolonged source of indecision or deep ambivalence can result in cancerous congealment.

Just a little more for the pot of considerations.

Vortex, thank you! I have a PM in to ZeroStat too, regarding what JoeBlast said earlier.

 

I'm going to get even odder on you. This preliminary diagnosis took place about a week after Joe did a cancer healing ceremony, and he actually asked Spirit to take the cancer from our friend Mo and give it to him. If it turns out he actually did it, I'm really gonna be pissed.....

Get a good healer in quick!

Yes, I get it manitou.

The thing is with such "parallel process" recognitions is the temptation to read them too literally.

You could be spot on with your first thought as to it's significance.

Or it could be that you dont know the source of what has happened to Joe,(ie. maybe you think it is smoking related) you dont actually know why he has that lung cancer ( assuming for the purpose of this thought thread that it is that) and that you need to find where from the leak/illness/weakness in the system is coming..

ie ( for example ) unresolved grief. ( because it is a lung issue... in taoism we say the lungs store grief and sadness)

otherwise the grief may spring a leak in other symptoms. The enclosure may be the lung ( which shows the problem ) and the source of the problem is elsewhere, ie in something undermining his system that is elsewhere. Looking at it in this way, the fact it is in a water system suggests it is emotion based.

I obviously have no idea if this is at all resonant to you.. but it's just a different angle on it fwiw.

Good Luck Manitou and Joe.

What is interesting, to me, anyway, is the degree to which we feel our sexuality being purified via practice. It is extensive, I feel.

All the junk which can and does adhere to libido structures in the psyche unhook and disintegrate.

Then one is left with something pure, like trees and mountains and rivers.

where i come from, there is a saying..

 

before a king can leads his own army, he first fight his own battles and face his own demons..

 

before NON can engage in sexual intimacy and happiness, he must first control his sexual addictions which to me, seemed very heavy 3 months but now seem much lighter by comparison.

Nice saying.

I cant comment on Non's sexual addictions because I dont know anything about them!

And I agree that sexual intimacy and happiness is something we can 'train' for , by facing our demons and doing our best to bring a healthy loving sexual self to the banquet.

Firstly, if there are insults in here, anyone offended please report them.

More importantly, it seems to me, is the chance here to draw up a practical constructive new thread in which there is some wisdom shared about

How to tell the difference in your body and heart between:

(i)repression of sexual response

(ii)loss of libido due to health issues or depression or stress

(iii)evolution in practice leading to a smoother sexual journey ie loss of objectivising women and being driven by lust

IF you all feel you can draw up such a distinction map, then I reckon it would be valuable for many.

bodyoflight, on 23 April 2011 - 10:54 PM, said:

 

the real goal of being celibate is to drive your kundalini uptowards your brain and achieve bliss..

 

NON is probably not telling you all everything here.. he is probably engaging in some secret spiritual practices which involve the usage of kundalini energy..

 

all these talk about sex and abusing women is probably his ego trying to talk him out of such beneficial spiritual practices..

Bodyoflight you might be right. The ego talk in our heads that wants to sabotage our evolution is a real factor that is so often overlooked and we fall asleep and so utterly believe our own negative talk, and it becomes the strongest voice we hear. That, or we have to tolerate inner arguing, which is exhausting. Equally it could be that he has a negative complex which is talking him out of experiencing sexual happiness and intimacy.

I think is cool, Non, that you are looking at what your body is expressing. I wonder what just directing love and acceptance at your sexual body and your sexuality will do for you.

Do you want morning wood? When you get it, do you love your body and it's ways.. or just find it problematic. Maybe your wood wants an invitation and a welcome when it shows up.

Love your body.

Has anyone ordered this? Is this guy for real that he is giving away a lot of info for 17.00?

It's a bit of a gamble, eh. Will you trailblaze, Ralis?

ha, yes. Like! Is fun. About 20 million episodes, shot with a budget the size of three peanuts. Creative.

I used to trip

With the Divine Styler

Back in the days

There were Irish ways

And Irish laws

to stand up for the cause

 

There are tornado smileys. I just can't code good enough to put one here.

 

I'm ill, retarded

So don't ya get me started

I might lose my cool

Ya lose if we duel

'Cause I can stomp a hole

In the sole of a monk

With the rhymes in my head

and the beats in my trunk

 

I'll pontificate when I'm rocking with the whirl wind palm. It's a dying style of kun lun. So dying in fact that you just might do the same to master it.

 

@ Cat: Did Holy Lama ever teach you tantra? It was super simple to start, but gets harder the more you want it.

Think the correct laughter here would be TEe HEe