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Hee, hee, Taomeow, you are cute. Perhaps TF might consider this. Grandmaster has a huge worldwide following in German, Russian, American and of course Asian communities to say the least. If TF is correct that Grandmaster Wang is not showing all his knowledge in his teachings, it appears at least that he is showing enough to impress serious students worldwide!

Heehee!

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Agreed without reservation! Nicely said, Cat.

 

Even my puppy's puppiness takes on different shades at different times... sometimes he is all 'old dog' in his ways, and yet at other times he is all fun and games!

 

However, i suspect that no matter what conditions are surfacing, and being experienced, one can still remain in 'one state' within. What this state is, and how it manifests, and what it means, may differ from person to person. Some would like to name this inner poise 'Equanimity', but thats only because people can be odd in the sense that they have to put restrictive labels on their discoveries, which only serves nothing more than boxing it up so for ease of recollection, mostly out of fear that they may lose the poise and not know how to rekindle it, or perhaps to enable it as a topic of conversation over dinner with friends. If only words were that effective... now, mantras, they are a different story altogether.

I feel that 'one state' within. Yes.

Interesting, in itself, that base point without weather.

nice point, cowtao.

oh, the endless labelling, and boxing up, and attachment to discoveries! sandpit, tricycle, and storytime with a biscuit...

Yes, a person can be happy without being excited,. How about enthusiastic instead of excited, does that work better?

 

I dont believe that being any one state all the time is any sign of good alignment, it certainly isnt the tao. To expect yourself to be enthusiastic all the time is ok for a puppy. For anyone else it is a pathology. Is nature always enthusiastic? doesnt it sometimes go dormant, sometimes germinate quietly, sometimes die, sometimes rest calmly, sometimes just glow, sometimes fade, sometimes die, sometimes..etc etc.

I say this because the drive to be 'up' and 'full on' in our world is just so prevalent and dominant and so YANG.

I'm all for loving and respecting the pause in life, when it comes. And we dont need to be all enthusiastic in our pauses. It's fine to let go and just be, without any adjectival addition.

See it is stuff like this that confuses me. The way i take it is that once you have studied the forms like for 60 ish year then they dont matter. But again i must be wrong.

Mewtwo, do you read this board much? There is a lot of discussion here of various forms, their value, and also a lot of discussion of spontaneous qigong and what that is really all about, and its relationship to transmission, also.

I reckon if you do a few searches here,and read the various inputs, you will feel somewhat less confused.

You know how you have to learn to cook first of all with recipes, then if you have a gift for it, you make up your own recipes.. that process applies to a lot of things.

60 years form practice before you improvise is ok if you live to be 120, eh? Otherwise, maybe 60 years not quite needed.

I think you are very cool for showing your ideas and asking questions. It might also be cool if you did some background studying.

Well, I am bizarre, Jack Nicholson, in the movie As Good as it Gets, made me feel proud to be a weirdo! Did you see that movie? ... but the reason I mention ignore is so he wouldn't waste any more hot air in my direction. That is ethical, isn't it?

 

I think they might have removed the ignore button? If so I can ignore pretty well.

I get it, you are being altruistic by ignoring mewtwo : saving him the trouble of ignoring you. Excellent.

Yes I did see that film, Jack is irresistible. Proud to be a weirdo could be a good pin ( badge for english speakers)

for a lot of us here.

I think the ignore button must still be there. I'd have to log out to see it I expect. I'm too weird to log out.

Where is the frigging ignore button?

heh. Actually, I cant see it right now. Maybe I dont have one anymore though.

BTW it is just a tad bizarre to tell someone you are ignoring them in their own thread.

It happens, when on the path, that you glimpse what you are, from a the light of perfection, and perceive yourself as deeply and profoundly crappy/flaw filled/impure/mistaken. It is a source of searing anguish,and an opportunity for cleansing.

It is part of the proccess.

The experience and knowledge of it matters.

Other angle, you see the perfection in everything, including the filth, etc. That's another part of the process.

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Please understand that this is NOT a Customer Service thread. We are not in business here. We are simply inviting students who wish to grow for THEIR OWN benefit. Thus, it is really unnecessary to provide any feedback except regarding earnest inner development. Any judgment on your part is a reflection of your own level of development.

ha. It would seem uneccessary from your point of view, perhaps.

However, this is a discussion board.

Yeah, I paaak my caaa on the pavement and sometimes I walk on the pavement and sometimes on the sidewalk.

 

That was funny about the crabs. First time I heard that.

 

Something I noticed many years ago is that when the Brit songsters are singing their diction is perfect. But then, listen to that same person in an interview and I can hardly understand what they are saying. They are almost bi-lingual.

naw, Marblehead. Songsters sing in sub-American. It happened when Frank Sinatra and Bing crooned. Suddenly singing couldnt be in English. The only people who sing in english are Richard Harris, David Bowie, Rex Harrison, and Bjork.

Cauliflower cheese is a treat. I also add mustard: a pinch of dried Colemans. Sometimes also ham! or bacon!

But nutmeg?.... well. This is what we call sophisticated cooking. Thanks ninpo. I will try it.

I dont know where you are, but you know the little bottles of the Schwartz herbs and spices? They do one called mustard mash,which is grrrrreat. Really good on noodles as well, if you are a bit cool in the pool about food weirdness.

Cauliflower mash is very good with saussagges.

Take a good look at the DragonGateNYC post. It was posted with best intention to invite students to learn with Grandmaster. Nothing there should raise Starjumps slamming ridiculing attitude; he deserves to be made an example of because he persisted to be completely disrespectful of our efforts and message. He needs to 'be mindful' of how he communicates. For those who seek mastery, they will find it here. For those who are seeking conflict, they can find it Everywhere. So for those who seek disharmony here, they should just consider that they have absolutely Nothing to gain, except a reflection of what THEY give, truly just a balanced equation in this mathematical universe. Thank you for understanding.

hi Lotus Born.

You arent the first promoter here to receive sceptical feedback about great claims made on behalf of what or who they promote,and I'm sure you wont be the last.

Most of us believe that having a good teacher is terrific,if not essential, all of us know that continued progress is down to the student.

We also know that not one size fits all.

When you are selling, you have to deal with customers. Customer service in itself is a discipine and a skill.

Rushing into reactive punitive statements doesnt appear to be the ideal method of showing your level of development...

Love George.

thanks 9th.

ninpo, that's called millionaire's shortbread. Did you do a lot of visualising ££££££'s coming flooding in while you made it?

Happy Christmas!

I have been eating chilli rice cakes. It's all very nice and that, but I just cant access the 'cake' aspect of them. I try repeatedly.

Good, I'm glad you agree with me. So is fear of death a type of developement?

 

 

 

No need, no wish, just enjoying life so much that it is exciting.

 

 

 

Didn't need to but it would be nice, YEEEEHAaaa! How about a French Maid outfit

Yes, fear of death in children arises from a sense of feeling unsafe/unprotected by parents. And when it is present in adults,it is a development arising from lack of trust in life.

So yes, fear of death is a development, arising only in less than ideal situations, from an initial interest and acceptance of death as part of life.

An insatiable appetite for 'excitement' is a compensatory mechanism set in place usually from simply not receiving enough personal attention-love.

I dont think wise old farts need to be excited all the time. Unless old lady farts dress perpetually as Fifi's.

...fascinating...:

"Previous spiritual teachers, thus interpreting the nature of the world as one of ignorance and suffering, saw the only solution to be a radical transcendence of this existence, through a return to the Absolute; what the Hindus call 'Liberation' and the Buddhists 'Nirvana'.

 

But Sri Aurobindo and Mirra suggested another, far more magnificent, but also far more difficult, alternative. Rather than go from Here (this world) to There (Nirvana, the Absolute), why not bring There down Here? In other words, why not draw the Divine or Absolute Consciousness - what Sri Aurobindo calls the 'Supermind' or 'Supramental' because it is totally beyond mind and mental activity - down into this world, into this gross physical world of matter, into one's physical body (the individual centre of inconscience), and by doing so transform, perfect, and Divinise it.

 

The result would be the 'glorified body', the Supramental Body, the Divinised Body, the Perfected Body free of illness and imperfection. With this there would be the elimination of ignorance and negativity. Suffering would be replaced by Divine Harmony.

 

And having achieved this state in one's own self, the next stage is to extend it out to the world as whole, and so bring about a collective evolutionary transformation."

http://www.kheper.ne...ntalisation.htm

It is fascinating. It is what everybody is talking about on the board when they discuss Qigong and taoist alchemy.

I guess this is an appropriate thread to discuss immortals, since my mentor and myself are old farts.

 

 

 

OK Cowgirl, did you take the time to look at all the facets of this to see how it might work? =) I'll try to restate it in a way that you might like.

 

Speaking for immortals =) they are well aware of death of course, but it doesn't bother them the way it does the fearful, Although they are aware of physical death it doesn't scare them. They are like children in that way, being excited about life, not worrying about death.

 

I had to look up puer aeternus. It applies only if you change the word remained to returned.

 

Puer aeternus is Latin for eternal boy, used in mythology to designate a child-god who is forever young; psychologically it refers to an older man whose emotional life has remained at an adolescent level, usually coupled with too great a dependence on the mother. The puer typically leads a provisional life, due to the fear of being caught in a situation from which it might not be possible to escape. He covets independence and freedom, chafes at boundaries and limits, and tends to find any restriction intolerable.^[1]

 

 

You dont return to a state of arrested development.

A need or wish to be always excited is a pathology. It isnt the dao in any way.

this one :

Speaking for immortals =) they are well aware of death of course, but it doesn't bother them the way it does the fearful, Although they are aware of physical death it doesn't scare them.

I think that this is part and parcel of being a taoist practitioner.. fear of death disapears. In one sense this makes us immortals, yes. I agree.

So I didnt need to dress as a cowgirl? dang.

I heard this from Taoist mentor who I believe was an immortal: An immortal is someone who is so excited about life that it never occurs to him to think of death.

 

Ok, I find myself wanting to jump on the table and shout BALDERDASH. (Whilst dressed as a cowgirl, probably)

what kind of taoist mentor would ever say such a thing??!?!!?!?!

Death is part of life. You cant know life at all without knowing death.

Living in a state of excitement and not thinking of death.. who does that apart from a sensation seeking puer aeternus?

Children begin asking about death and pondering it at a very early age. It's fascinating and beautiful, like everything else.

Starjumper7: you're lucky to know all this grandmasters. I know just one...

True. They dont designate themselves as grand masters or advertise their wherabouts.