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heaven-chi, I'm sure you know already some people believe in magic and others dont.

The fact is you have been given enough material here to work with. Plus you have a teacher.

That's it. It's up to you now to utilise with pure intent what tools you have.

Doing these practises, taking these measures, will still your mind.

Good Luck.

I've heard they don't teach quantum physics in kindergarten. Does this mean that we cannot go through the entire training process of this system?..

 

 

 

Master Wang does not run an institution. When a seminar or a workshop is offered, you get a clear and precise curriculum of the event. But if you want to know in advance what the system "has" in its entirety, you can't be offered that -- you need to do some practice work for a length of time and, in the course of this practice, develop some organs capable of perceiving what it has before you can perceive it. How fast you personally can develop these organs is impossible to phase into any curriculum.

 

 

 

Well, you are told what you're going to be doing, step by step. What is going to be happening while you're doing it, however, is just about as transparent as destiny, as clear as the will of the gods.

 

 

 

This is a traditional art that has never mass-produced its masters. A teacher must be qualified before he or she is authorized. In the traditional view, just because someone "wants" to teach is not enough qualifications.

 

 

 

What are you going to do about the entity that made you say that? Are you going to question it closely as to its source of this idea? Please do, I'd be interested to find out how the demons of character assassination and smear tactics get their training and what curriculum they follow.

 

Think of it this way... What master Wang teaches is not a "product" that has gone through a process of packaging and presentation so as to look attractive to the customer who's been preemptively trained to expect his or her consumption of goods and services to be facilitated in a particular fashion by the producing industry. It is not a product that is going to get cheaper once knock-off versions are mass-produced. It is not a commodity. It is not an entitlement. It is not something someone promised to deliver, satisfaction guaranteed or your money back. It is not a basic right. It is not a trendy must-have goodie. Not a fad to abide by. Not a basic necessity. It is not a constitutional guarantee. It is hard to come by and will always be. It is expensive and until the world abolishes money it is likely to remain so. It is unique. You don't demand a Rembrandt original for your living-room just because you want it. By the same token, you don't demand things of a taoist immortal. You take what is offered, gratefully, or you say "no thanks" and look elsewhere for what pleases your heart's desires. It's as simple as that, and it is not likely to get simpler.

 

Hope this helps.

Is there somewhere online that those that are interested can find answers to their questions about these Wang Liping courses advertised here?

I don't know what you're talking about Cat, Mr Kipling makes exceedingly good cakes. Without having experienced Mr. Kipling, I may never have found the real thing. You could say Mr. Kipling's cakes are a kind of 'gateway cake'.

 

 

You were licky (sic) ( not licky sick) that you went through the Kipling Gateway and walked toward the light. Think of the many that never made their way out of the darkness of Bought Cake hinterlands. No dont think of them, it's too difficult.

Just think of this: today I made a chocolate cake with beetroot in it.

To the "Mange Kipling" brigade, this would be considered an alien cake. Reality, eh?! It's like a gateaux, in it's complexity.

I had to post this...

I would love to hear what everyone thinks about this:

My link

Interesting, thanks for posting. I like the 'modes of existence'.. the "Zone Being" bit is very familiar from back of eyelid experiences during meditation. Really good to see it.

If I know how to make it my avatar here, I would.

Also, yeah, ninpo.. we are 'aliens' too... we are the cake aliens. The enemy is Kipling, pushing false cakes amongst the masses.

 

 

As does seeing the physical body as a kind of an awesome thing rather than a prison.

The thing is, the two things are not mutually exclusive. It isnt a polarity.

Thanks for making that clear.

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That book is viewable in google books. Thank you for the info.

 

broken thank you. I actually have some little trees outside my room in a little garden. Do you think I could ask their spirits for help?

You're welcome.

I'm not broken but I answer anyhows...You could ask, and it would be ideal if you said hello, introduced yourself, made an offering, opened your heart etc, before asking for help. Be polite, be kind, be generous with yourself to the trees, if you would like reciprocity.

Good Luck.

SO(U)RCERY <- Spam! -> SOUR-Cery?! -> SOUR CHERRY

SOUR CHERRY <- bacon! -> O, C, U R Sherry!

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An excellent magician who can do protection magic is Jason Miller.

He will do it for a fee. He has written a first rate book "Protection and Reversal Magick."

You can google him and find his site.

Darkness consumes, light conquers darkness.

 

There is much you can do. I would suggest a three sided approach, in true gnostic style: birth, death and sacrifice.

 

Firstly, give birth to protection. Get an Aloe Vera plant, take care of and look after it. With intention ask the elemental of the plant to protect you and your room/house. There are many other things you can do along these lines - pentagrams, talismans, sacred texts, incense, essential oils, etc. It's also import to consider the internal aspect of birth. Stay healthy, practice intensely (love for all, breathing exercises, concentration exercises... But being a fellow bum you probably do this already).

 

Second, death to the attack itself. Considering your development, I would suggest that you invoke God/Masters/Angels or whatever you are comfortable with to help. Always invoke in the name of the Solar Light, the Christic force. Devotion from the heart is imperative, it's sincere as the heart cannot lie.

 

And lastly, sacrifice. Breathe in through the crown chakra, breathe bright white pure light. Inhale it down to the heart and hold the breath. Let the fire in the heart burn and, with a strong intention of love and forgiveness, concentrate on the being you suspect sent these entities to you. Hold until you cannot any more. With the palms facing away from you, visualise the person and send with strong will this love and forgiveness.

 

Peace be with you, brother,

James

This is such a great tri - partite model to integrate, for all manner of things that one wish to work on. And the most elegant effective solution to the thread issue.

Beautiful .broken.

I think the spleen, bacause it is of the earth element, and the root chakra are key in attraction. Ifound this on another site: the Root Chakra governs issues around physical self-preservation. These issues include survival, security and safety, as well as primal erotic and procreational urges.

 

This chakra is the grounding force that allows us to connect to the earth energies and empower our being.

 

Every other chakra is downstream of it and only receives the energy that the root chakra can pass through to it. The path to health and mystical power goes right through the gender organs.To understand your root chakra, you must come to a place of peace with your sexual energy.

 

Survival, security, safety, sexualiy, a sense of power, material stuff - money. All of these are key things women seek in a man. Also I have read people mention that when their root chakra really opened up women started becoming much more interested.

markern, I was going to mention the spleen but didnt want to be too daunting.. working on the spleen is essential and not a job one is about to 'finish' anytime soon. Initial results can be very helpful with the secret smile and healing sounds. On a deeper level, going into the spleen is to make contact with the infinite inside oneself in an even more contactful way than any other organ.. more hidden than any other organ.Like going into mother earth.It is the home of the Yi, being the earth aspect.. it is about being able to take in, to digest, to process, to think and feel coherently.. helping the spleen is vital to being able to feel. A weak spleen will lead to worry and over thinking.. tonifying the spleen would be an ideal task for all the people who think about relationships all the time but dont actually have one.. in our culture it is easy to feel undernourished, and therefore underconfident and lacking in trust. Strengthening the spleen will help counteract this mind set.

In my experience intent and concentration and desire does work for manifesting outcomes - and yet on one level it does not seem to be me who is deciding - .....

there have been times when I have been visualizing something and it does occur - However consistent concentration as well as arousal- desire - a genuine desire - like the desire and fun a kid has on christmas eve - plus a firm belief that it is ok what one is doing and that what one wants is a good thing -

oh innocence as well seems to help a lot - faith -

I agree with you. If you do magic right, it works. If you are connected to the source, you can do sorcery.

Hey Cat

I was pondering this topic a lot more and thought that its probably not just one or the other, but really both together. As I was meditating and working on my heart and kidneys I realized that more of the love and alturistic attraction resided in the heart naturally, but the kidneys as the generator and storehouse of jing and sexuality also deal with attraction on another more physical level (I suppose this would correlate to the heart and sacral chakras of the indian yoga system). But I think both levels of attraction are important for a relationship to be good.

 

Interestingly enough I was doing the kidney inner smile and healing sound yesterday and accessed a lot of "junk" that felt like nervousness, stress, ect... I realized that my feelings and reactions to the more physical aspects of love and intimacy actually were quite a stress reaction more than enjoyment and this had been creating a lot of difficulty for me in this regard. I was quite supprised at how much junk came out yesterday as I worked on my kidneys, and at how unplesant it felt as this was happening. Though I can say that today I feel much "lighter" and feel as though its easier to breath, so that is interesting. I had never really thought to work on my kidneys in relation to this topic before but I'm glad I did now. I used to focus primarily on my heart and lungs. Heart for the love aspect, and lungs cause I would feel kind of sad about the way my love life was going lol. Yet as much work as I put into those organs, and while it did help, it still felt as though there was something I was not getting. Now that I worked on my kidneys in relation to the topic of intimacy I feel as though something that had been causing me a lot of problems for a long time has been removed :-).

 

This Qigong stuff is interesting, it seems that you learn more and more about yourself the longer you do it, even after you think something isn't an issue for you anymore.

Yes, agree it just goes on and on unravelling more and more layers of stuff. Onion! Congrats on doing the work.

Kidneys- fear - anxiety. getting intimate brings up a lot of fear, no?! I generally have turned in the opposite direction and run when I sense I am facing a new amant that will inevitably shake me up and show me some edges in myself.

Really, I find you cant leave any organ out, eventually, they are all in there, making us who we are, and a love relationship or a sexual liason of any impact, is going to involve a lot more of us than we might at first glance imagine.

I know what you mean about thinking you aint gonna be attracted to someone fugly and such. HOWSOEVER! I have loved someone 'old' when I was young and perfect, at an age when signs of age and decay should repel, I found them touching. I do believes we can surprise ourselves when the shen are in alignment between two beings, so much is possible.

what if its somewhere in between? lol

heh. then you suffer from conflict!

My first boyfriend, when I was 15, was someone I tried so hard to find enthralling or even interesting, in truth. I resorted to gazing at his profile while he talked. He was the school heart throb and I thought I "should' date him, because of his looks and reputation, so how could I say 'no'??!

I suffered boredom whilst enjoying social success.

Swings.. roundabouts...

Only one out of 3 were unintentional here.. And that's my lil guy, the sweetest accident I ever made.

 

Thank you for your compliment. These things are of interest to me as you have noticed. I respect you too.

aaw, super cool, I'm sure lil guy is molto gorgeousness.

I was 'an accident' too, so I'm all in favour of us.

Thanks KK.

xx

As a man it would be even harder to trust that the woman knows her body well enough.. I think a woman can well have that intuitive knowledge and trust in it 100%.

 

Hmm I'm speaking from the point of view of a (practically) single daddy of three. I have no more capacity for "accidents".

heh heh, yes, I understand well enough, I have two children. ( both not accidents!)

Interesting, the issue becomes one of trust.

Respect to you for quickly reaching the core/root issue of every love and sex question we could ever think of , probably...

Women with weak Yin appear Yang/brutal to men with weak Yang, yet they are still attracted by them, compulsory.

 

 

 

 

 

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I see this, it is painful to see. The over opinionated unfeminine woman and the marshmallow man in her pocket.

Solutions are manifold. The first thing is for the issue to be recognised, and as you said, it is easier for those outside the issue to see it.

Women with weak Yin are very truculent beings, often competetive with men and keen on power, with an unfluid mind set, a harshness about them that precludes genuine humour, and a need to be right! Men who are weak in themselves find these kind of women reassuring.. being hen pecked is better than no peck at all.. eh?

Men need positive male role models and male company that achieves and respects itself. Get out and fish and raft and do your aikido or drumming and playing in a band or whatever it is. And dont be a vegetarian.

The women with weak Yin have often responded to their father with an overweening mixture of awe and fear, so that the 'male' seems something that they must match and compete with, and the feminine is intrinsically undervalued in them, and is something they reach out to only nominally with a reactive quasi 'feminism' whilst holding no real femininity inside themselves. It is such a common configuration, the woman complaining about the plight of women, who actually is very unwomanly, and the woman closest to her, who is suffering from having no rights, is the one in her psyche.

Weak Yin needs to learn to love the receptive, the non linear, the blossoming and the process, to let go of competing with men, of proving anything to men, of trying to please daddy, of trying to be the best, and just to melt in to her body and heart, to stay outside of logos oriented solutions.

I think David deida offers great solutions to this issue in his work.

Yeah I see.. I would imagine that for many women (and men) the threat of pregnancy is so great it will ruin their pleasure if no other preventives are used. But great to hear someone can make it work like that.

Yes, your response is very common and it expresses exactly our conditioning that we simply cannot intimately know our bodies, that they must be dealt with mechanistically from without for reliable results, as our own knowing could not be reliable.

(I would say that if there was an unconscious desire to conceive, then an egg could be released post coitally so that the sperm could be utilised whilst in situ...but this is my own felt belief rather than any factual knowledge. I had the intent not to conceive, so I didnt feel I would sabotage my own body.)

However, for those who are able to embrace the method I described, the success rates are steady and great good things evolve from the couple knowing the womans body so well. IME there is as it stands, no better method of contraception for those having physical sex incorporating ejaculation. A woman who can recycle ovarian energy is in a great position, using that, and the cervical juice method.

Good for you! But what about the threat of pregnancy? Never bothered you? All your lovers must have been pretty convincing at their "contact without leakage"? Sorry but I'm curious..

Is good question. You probably know that women can track their cycle and get to know their body juice well enough to figure when they are fertile or not. It is pretty simple once you know how. The cervix emits welcoming copious fluid when sperm will flourish, very come - hither fluid, easy to swim in. The rest of the time the cervical juice is less swimmable in. (that's the 2- mins -before- the- exam version of this topic, you can buy books on it if really interested) I also have removed energy from ovaries when dont want to conceive, but this is secondary to above practice and is combined with being erotically creative during fertile periods.

ha, what causes attraction differs according to what stage of development you are at.

If your locus of evaluation is externally located, you will go for the 'trophy wife' or 'hot girlfriend', or the husband who will impress your father if you have over - awed by Daddy issues etc etc

If your locus of evaluation is located internally, you will go for someone who makes you laugh and smile and makes you want to listen to what they have to say about everything, and confide in them, and regularly push them on the sofa.

Simples, no?

Hmm how would you like a man with a

 

I actually meant for protection of your cranium.. as an animus driven woman - and any passive man can turn a woman into one of these - will find himself on the receiving end of blows to the head, wether they are real or intentional, or more likely, I hope, the usual verbal whiplash that animus driven women dish out.

(.....as for condoms, I been really fortunate and never used them hardly at all. For intelligent reasons: like knowing my partners and having been tested etc. I really dont like them much at all. I hope I dont get into the position of having to use them.)

( or maybe you are referring to construction workers!or firemen! yes, so long as they make my shen light up, any headgear is ok by me...)

The things womens sexual fantasies when studied in the early seventies showed stuff such as playrape at the top of the list. That was before they had seen any porn and very little of the pop culture at the time would have helped them get those fantasies, except womens romance novels which are full of descriptions of women being "overcome" by a dominant male and surrendering. THe numbers for those types of fantasies are almost exactly the same today.

For the woman who is not very free sexually, a lot of sexual fantasies are set up by her that involve her not giving permission for herself to be sexual. She is in a doctor's room, or being massaged by an anonymous person, in fact 'anonymous' fantasies altogther, are all ways a women can say "I didnt do it, it just happened"... ie avoiding responsibility for wanting sex. The masseur did it! The doctor did it! In each case, my will was overcome! ie I am innocent, it wasnt me.., she will create a compensatory figure who will force her into a position where she must give herself.

So for the woman who is free sexually, and who needs to be surrendering her whole self and be ravaged by her loving lover, she can make that happen with her partner, by opening more and more into her ecstacy. If he isnt a milquetoast, he will respond and open more and more into the flowering polarisation, in which case no fantasy ever needed. The dynamic of stalk and lotus enacts and reenacts so that their world is thrust into alchemy and fountains into being over and over again. Ever renewing, mutual replenishment, the dynamic of opposites resolving itself creatively.

etc, so to speak, and so on.

I have had similar thoughts about being more passive or yin as a man makes you inferior, I thought this was reflected in the animal kingdom in that the dominant males got all the females which is true for some species, but then I studied some of the apes genetically closest to man and it's not so clear cut. In some species the less dominant males would actually get more sex as they were more playful and while the dominant males would go off and fight and tire themselves out the less dominant ones would have their way with the females. Also with the Bonobo apes the females were actually the dominant ones and would choose their sex partners often on the basis of compassion and affection ahead of dominance, while the dominant ones would often be killed by rivals. Where humans lie in all this I'm not sure.

I agree 'dominance' is not neccesarily what is attractive or needed. Actually, speaking for myself, I think dominance is often unnattractive and repellant.

I think taking the initiative is what is attractive and needed, by women, in men.

Not all the time or every time, but... enough of the time that the female can relax and do what she wants to do, which is be responsive.

When men are playful, the woman can relax seeing that the man can take the ball and run with it, is creative in himself, buoyant.Someone who can respond quickly and creatively creates a space for the feminine not to have to be in caretaking or feeding role.

If passsivity is being unable to take initative.... this isnt actually an ideal quality in a man in relation to women, unless he wants an animus driven women.

In which case, good luck and make sure you have a safety helmet.