jaya

Hi, I never heard that word idroxide before, but maybe it's the same thing as sodium hydroxide? (lye). Lye is used in the soap making process and is very toxic but none should be left in the final product.

 

-Karen

Sorry is that-hydroxide

I found olive oil soap with

olive oil e Colophonium (pine resin) - natural glycerine of oil.

soap uncooked-- no coconut oil or palm oil

INGREDIENTS: water, SODIUM OLIVATE, COLOPHONIUM, SODIUM CHLORIDE, CITRUS MEDICA LIMONUM OIL, LIMONENE, CITRAL.

Is it good?

http://www.extraverginesaponi.com/liquido.htm

http://translate.google.it/translate_t#

In Italy it is not known that olive oil can be used as toothpaste.

about olive oil soap.

With idroxide sodium is good

or better without it?

Thanks

http://reactor-core.org/dental-health.html

Prevention of plaque retards gum pockets. Gum pockets are formed as the plaque pushes the gums away from the teeth. Gum pockets, from 1 to 8 mm deep, are also formed by FLUORIDE, which severs the protein molecules adhering the gums to the teeth. SOAP PREVENTS GINGIVITIS

CAN YOU EXPLAIN ME ABOUT FLUORIDE?

For some is good for other bad

Thanks

No added Glycerine in the GREEN hemp soap

 

> Subject: Re: g.r.e.e.n. hemp soap

 

 

> Thanks ........No extra Glycerine added ...

 

is it sure that glycerin is harmful

who is the researcher??

 

From the page of Karen

Oil pulling is an effective method for pulling toxins from around the teeth and gums, but oil pulling is not always convenient, and some people find it unpleasant. Those who are already oil pulling can do blotting in addition, or whichever is more convenient on a particular day. See what works well for you.

I use pulling oil each morning with a drop of oregan essential oil and a litthe bentonite.

I think it is enough?

Isn't it?

P.S. If one does professional hygiene, does one need of blotting?

Karen, how have you experienced the blotting tecnique?

Can you explain?With dentist or alone?

My friend makes a Native american oil blend with Earth Clay and that has succesfully regenerated Bone & Teeth & Gums.

 

You can get that stuff through Tao Semko

contact him at umaatantra.com

 

The guy that makes the product is a Chi Gung student of Dr, Morris & I & has trained with Oniada Indian medicine men. His name is Miguel Cisneros. A good friend of mine and a great healer/Herbalist.

 

peace

 

Santi

Hello

I wrote to this website asking about teeth regeneration.

See the reply:

one does not regrow teeth when there are no teeth present...

but improving nerve nutrition and blood circulation can rejuvenate the root and nerve of an existing tooth if it is loose, weak, or has gingivitis.

The clay and specific 100% natural plant essential oils in the toothpaste, when packed against the tooth and left on overnight several nights in a row may help to do so, stopping gum bleeding and firming the tooth root... however, the FDA forbids any claims of curing, preventing, or treating disease, so we do not make any... this is not a synthetic pharmaceutical, and we are not MD's....

this is just basic health maintenance using traditional means and common sense...

If you want pure Ormus that has no other minerals, then I would suggest the m-3 from Joe Lello or Don Nance. Both have been making it for years, and have hundreds of satisfied customers. Don healed his own colon cancer with the m-3. They also make pure gold products, but the m-3 has plenty of gold in addition to the rhodium and iridium.

Agharta

Joe Lello suggests dead sea water for teeth remineralisation , the scot website selling Ormus suggests m3.

Then i don't understand if it is better many minerals or only gold -rhodium -iridium.

I don't know the difference from water and manna.

Joe offers discount for four bottles than i think to begin with the preparation already made, but i don't know which.

For the moment it is not possible to make my ormus , in the french mailing list people sed that it is better to have assisted to one preparation before.

french people says that 5 drops per day in the beginning , Joe -two teenspoons . Wich is your experience?

Is not possible that nigari can contain any ormus?

it doesn't contain residual and it is soluble perfectly in water.

How to measure ormus?

Joe Lello suggests me:

I would recommend you start out with a sea product, Sea-11 from the French Atlantic, Dead Sea manna from Masada, Israel or Great Salt Lake Manna - whichever your inner sense seems drawn to. They all have similar ingredients, and are all $49 for an 8 oz bottle that should last you about a month if you take a spoonful every day, morning and night.

These products are too expensive and you have to consider shipping.

Then i have to create my product starting from the choise of salt.

It depends from what i can to find. Normal atlantic salt may be? Gray or white?

It seems that the gray contains some sand.

Do you know black salt or rock salt ?

or here

You say that it is simple to make our ormus but before you sed that you have had many hours of phone conversation ....

I red about the importance of the device's material , of the temperature of the fire and the noble gas as hilarion, xenon..

Now you tell me that nothing is indispensable .

We have to stirr the water with lye and to pour out the top of the water measuring the ph. and so on.

Until the salt is rinsed out...Correct? Realy only that? Wich the difference from the complex form?

I don't know were i have to search this kind of lye. Never heard to speak about this in Italy.

I wrote also Loe Lello and Don Nance, but normally it is not possible to ship this product-supplement food from USA to Italy. We have some restrictions.

Then it is better if i can produce myself my orme.

We have a dead sea salt but only for bath. I don't know if it is good for this process.

And if i start from nigari?

Nigari is the concentetaion of the liquid from the extraction of the salt by evaporation.

But is composition is 97% magnesuim chloride and 3 % of other oligoelements.

Wht do you tell me about?

Thanks

P.S . the link of the mailing list?

wich is the official website of Barry Carter?

Has anyone tried the Theta Meditation System by Jeff Thompson?

 

I have been listening to it and it is really good for relaxing and increasing my ability to handle stress. It uses sound pulses embeded in the music to take you to the theta state of consciousness. Maybe this is the same as the hemi-sync that people were talking about a few years ago?

 

Matt

Have you found anything like that on you tube? Sound pulses i wold to know...

found that:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=78...h&plindex=0

Jaya, I explained the method for getting rid of the metal-metal bonded clusters in my next post.

 

Yes, I've made plenty of Ormus. That it is? Can you say anything? Leaving from what?

I see no need to make the powder, because the liquid is more absorbable.

It is sed that the liquid can stimulate the ipercloryd acid in the stomach. Haven't you red that?

 

I get my information from multiple sources, including Barry Carter and his website, including spending dozens of hours on the phone and in person with Barry,

I found this website

http://futurepositive.synearth.net/stories...yReader$14

but too much things , too complicate ...society, market,Mass Privatization ...

Have you red his book?

I need a concentrate not any dispersion.

Can you give me exactly the name of the yahoo group? Do you need to be prayed?:-)

I did't find the list of seminars to see where he goes in Europe.

 

 

as well as from Don Nance, Joe Lello, and other producers who have been working with this stuff for years now. There's a main Ormus yahoo group, as well as the white gold list. Neither one is affiliated with any Ormus producers. Barry Carter is the host/moderator of both, and he makes his money from donations and weekend Ormus workshops that he gives all over the US and Europe.

 

 

Like i said, there's a tremendous amount of bullshit out there about everything esoteric on the internet. You won't separate the crap from the truth in a few weeks or months. That's true for qi gong, martial arts, and Ormus.

It would be good to made his personal ormus , i think it is the best and more we can save our money . The cost of products is very high

Can you explain better about the precipitate of Pacific sea water?

If it contains ormus can it to replace the white golden powder?

Is there a selling on the web?

Agharta

There is a lot of disinformation on internet....

Where do you do your information?

White gold list --is the list connected to the website that sell the ormus in water?

I found only that.

I showed you a website where it is written about the necessity of the personal process of formulation , the passage from the lower octave to the upper and other stuff...and you write about the precipitate of PH.

I am not a chemist or alchemist.

I don't understand what you want to say.

Have you made the powder yourself? Are you an alchemist?

.....but the major producers have a method to eliminate all of them.

That sell on internet?

How can you verify?

I've tried a few Ormus products. Pure gold is not what you want. According to David Hudson, the brain contains two types of Ormus--rhodium and iridium. Several producers make a product that is suspended in water that has balanced/roughly-equal amounts of gold, rhodium, and iridium. I can link you to these websites if you want. it's good stuff. They're curing cancer with this, as well as with seawater precipitate.

Agartha

i see that you have not red the link that i posted were it is explained the fundamental difference from the products:

In the website at the bottom of my post it is explained that golden powder suspended in water is not efficient, on the contrary it can be also dangerous.

If the process is incomplete in a liquid state it may well contain some monatomic elements however there may also be some metal to metal bonds remaining which can damage the liver and kidneys over time. Liquid suspensions made from gold may contain gold hydroxide. This is not due to impurity in the gold- beginning with pure gold the steps, on the way to the powder, convert the metallic gold to a liquid hydroxide. This hydroxide converts to a gold chloride in the stomach as it reacts with hydrochloric acid. You can check the effects of gold chloride here: http://www.ci.tucson.az.us/arthazards/photo2.html (#36).

Then i understand that these products below are not good:

http://www.whitepowdergold.com/

Some of the newbie sites make silly claims "Within 2 minutes both subjects had their left and right hemispheres go into synchronization and they dropped into the alpha state of brain wave activity. Then the frontal lobes went into sync with the rear quadrants, which made all four quadrants of the brain synchronized. When this happened, they both went into the theta level of brain wave activity, and the 25 year old, having never meditated a day in his life, was making dips into the delta range, which is a range of brain activity deeper than sleep - deep meditation." [ZPtec] Please, you know better than that, this material works deeply to clear away deep blocks but it is not a magic pill that instantly take one into the deepest state of meditation in two minutes with no effort on your part. Independent tests on the same product as well as other available products showed no such results. Many of you have bio-feedback devices and have verified this for yourself. It does help to connect the halves of the brain and with your conscious effort it can assist you to go into deeper states, but as most of you are well aware it is not the instant hit claimed by some of the newage marketers and we do not make any of our formulas, and particularly the Ormes, available with any silly instant enlightenment claims. Although this marketing ploy is obvious others may be less so; with popularity comes profit potential and this is an unregulated area. What does it really mean "perfects your DNA", we'll address that in a bit but in general use discrimination and common sense as you explore this field.

Golden powder would not be only one product good for all in any moment, but it would be necessary to procede from the lower octave to the upper octave.

It is suggested to have a personal remedy with the vibrations corresponding to our need.

Please read here with attention:

http://www.asc-alchemy.com/mono.html

Wich results have you hat with the products that you have tried?

Has anybody experimented Ormus?

It seems that there is a big difference from golden powder suspended in water and pure golden powder.

Read here:

http://www.asc-alchemy.com/mono.html

Jaya

" Ultrasound goes right through the bones"

Do you think that is good for the body?

All the cells are interested, even non involved in the process of regeneration.

Are the electromagnetic fields good? I dont't think.

"First is a Novasonic Massager that can generate a sound vibration of 20,000 Hertz. It is not your regular massager and all you have to do is slightly touch the skin and you can feel the sound waves go deep within your body. I have one myself and love using it."

Are we sure that the frequency is good for anyone?

I am italian, i am practicing yoga and chi gong.

I want to partcipate to this interesting forum and to have exchange about the energy practice

and discover something new.

My english is not so good, it is easier to read than to write or to speak.

I hope to improve:-)

Jaya