Vajrahridaya
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Actually it really is not. The many layers of the skandhas all the way to the alayavijnana, which is basically just the formless, individually unconscious tendencies for clinging to a self, are also empty. This clinging of the skandhas as the 5 elemental radiances is prier to more dense manifestations as every 5 sense perceivable moment, and as it's also empty and inter-dependent, is also without self essence. It's very, very subtle, and Asanga say's that most yogi's don't get it or don't go that deep, but he say's that the 8th consciousness (alayavijnana or storehouse consciousness) is also dependent and not self, but if it's mistaken as a self it merely leads to re-absorption at the end of a cosmic aeon or at the end of ones life you enter into a formless bliss state without senses as you have taken up the skandha of consciousness as an unborn essence, which it is not. This storehouse consciousness if experienced very deeply and the realization of emptiness is applied, becomes transformed into the experience of the tathagatagarbha, also empty of self essence. Also, if you're really into Zen, then you'd get into Vasubhandu and Asanga, the propagators of the Yogachara school based upon theories of the Alayavijnana as they are Zen patriarchs and Zen is very much based upon these teachings. You'd then truly understand that the assertion of it's equality with the Vedantin atman has no basis in anything other than a mis-guided assumption. Of course, it helps to have meditative experience of the Alayavijnana, which can manifest as a blue bindu, sphere or blue vajra, deep in meditation or contemplation. Your ideas of Zen as being some sort of stripped down thing is really a Western beast of a misunderstanding. All Zen patriarchs were deeply versed in the various traditional scriptures.
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Yes, there are infinite lines, all equally interdependent, not one, but empty.
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realizing emptiness reveals no strict dualism between, "primary" and "secondary" stuff.
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Don't worry... we don't.
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I agree that there is further to go. Dzogchen for instance doesn't utilize the two truth model.
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Ok, but you can disrespect my lineage and my experience? Ok then... I see how it goes. Also, if ones experience is connected with lineage, but emptiness is seen, it is neither an experience in or out of lineage. That's an extreme view and your critic seems to always be extreme, revolving around the ideation of an eternal Self. You really don't understand Buddhism. Diatribe? Why because I criticize your critic of buddhism and lineage? Interesting.
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As in relative to all empty phenomena.
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You'll find any proof you can to discredit anything I will say... so, I'm satisfied to leave you with your own assumptions.
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You've never understood much of what I said, as to say this about my posts is absolutely unfounded. I am far from a black and white thinker. I have found over the years that you project a meaning onto my posts that doesn't exist outside of your own mind, and this is evidenced by the fact that others do not see in my posts what you see, and no, it has nothing to do with your education.
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Most definitely.
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Exactly. A great Master is only so due to the fact of having been a great student, and still is a great student of the universe.
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If you were open, you'd get a message that is much deeper than language and verbal understanding. The problem is, is that generally, most do need a good intellectual understanding first before opening. Also, everyone is fallible through the body, but the inner state of a Master is perfect, thus they are considered a Mahasiddha, which means great perfection, this is not an outer attainment. It cannot be detected by those with an outer sense of focus either. Oh ralis... No, not thoughts... there are much subtler, more intimate depths of psychic reading than mere thought reading, that's for amateurs. Haven't you ever gotten to the point in your meditation where you see that all your thoughts are based upon subtler paradigms of fast moving images, emotional references, tied up with intentions? You need some more transmissions! Thought reading is for slow pokes.
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Well... I would disagree. I feel meditation holds an incredible power to expand awareness beyond the individual so deeply into the mystery as to de-mystify it. I feel there is no beginning, even the big bang and the singularity (pralaya in sanskrit) is merely part of the cycles of expansion and contraction, expansion and contraction that happen both macrocosmically and microcosmically. There was a before the big bang and there was a before the singularity which can be illumined through "right focus/concentration", number 8 in the 8 fold path of the Buddha. Marblehead... the mystery of you has plenty of undiscovered lands to illumine, for and by you.
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Yes, while saying that I realize that I've come across in just the same way.
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These are glimpses which allow a deeper reference for understanding the dynamic of living. Yes, all these experiences arise and dissolve... but the depth of ones living experience as an ongoing process always references ones illumined history of glimpses on a sub-conscious level, it can't help to do so as ones experienced history is en-lodged in ones cells, ones energy... this can scare people who are really caught up in seriously dense self reference existing. Yet, we all need some self referencing conventionally speaking... just a flexible, open, less clingy one.
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LOL! The cosmic dance through me... and us all!
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Yes, I as I only conventionally exist, and Xabir has been saying that all along. If you read all his posts... you guys keep reading things into the things he says and he keeps giving different angles, through quotes and his own writings. But to connect to what he's writing, one has to have I think an intimate understanding of the underlying principle of dependent origination/emptiness that he is speaking from, not merely an intellectual view of it.
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It is a particular aspect of the perspective, but not the entirety of it. Having that deep intuitive experience of the all, where you disappear is very thirst quenching as it quenches ones thirst by removing the one thirsting. This is hard to put into words... it has to be experienced. But then... how to keep going in positive action is also the path, as this experience is not one of nihilism, though it might sound like it... it really is not. It's a release of self clinging into the all.
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This is beautifully put... I don't have to say anything now.
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I do have relative existence, just not absolute existence. No one is saying that you absolutely do not exist. You just don't exist absolutely. Xabir is saying you have no inherent existence, but you do have relative existence... flexible, floating in space, permeated by it, inherently free through it.
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This is why I know you are not a Mahasiddha, you assume way too much from my posts. I am not that personally invested here. I'd much rather talk in person. I've seen so many people come on here and other boards over the years say, "I've seen the light, I know the truth... your lineage is crap, I know what I'm talking about, you don't need your lineage of guru's, but you should listen to me... which is really just like listening to yourself." blah, blah, blah. I'm sorry buddy, I'm not wrapped up in what you are saying here. You do have some great quotes, but I bet we see them differently. That's just life, we have our own contexts for these quotes... for me I see dependent origination/emptiness in all of them. Above, when I stated, "There is no path." I was merely talking about emptiness via Heart Sutra... because you seem to hold onto this dualistic demarcation between YOUR idea of a short path and YOUR idea of a long path with such stern assuredness. Again... what I find happens on these boards, is people read their own projections into things stated without objective viewing... they are so invested in their subjective projections that they cannot really see a persons intended meaning, but rather see the meaning that they wish to see. This shows me you still have plenty of self clinging. Which is what I find as well when people just read sutras without any formal training from enlightened lineage... which does exist, today, right now!! Chao!
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Yes. There must be openness and humility, but this type of trust is not necessarily built in a day. Sometimes there is an immediate recognition, or sometimes it takes a few hours. But in terms of spiritual traditions, there is a kind of magic that occurs between a disciple that is ready and a master that is truly self liberated. People who are too caught up in their, "Critical thinking egos" will just project, project, project, but will walk away from the teaching with only more justification for their own baggage. It's amazing sometimes what I see people understand from the very same talk that I've attended.
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Uh hu... anyway. A Master can ask you questions, which is what ChNNR does, and he see's about you through your answers. Also yes, Masters can read minds and see through you and your projections, but you have to be open to it... a mind melding does occur between a master and a disciple when there is openness between the two. I don't really care what Ken Mcleod say's. ChNNR has said this, and so have plenty of other teachers of antiquity.
