Vajrahridaya

More relatively real than your truck load of manure. How can nothing be physical? Nothing is nothing. But, I know what you mean. Everything is physical, and everything is also not physical as well. Simultaneousness! No. Yes. A famous one, post attainment. I don't say rigpa is physical, I'm saying it includes the physical, if you would have actually read what I stated instead of assumed anything like you have above. You really don't know me, nor the depth of my realization. You are quite ignorant to me dear brother, you need help. Genuine help. I've seen far more than you can realize right now based upon the lack of your vision. It's hypocritical to criticize lineages that have actually attained something you have no idea about, and say that you can teach the same. You are a baboon, swinging from a tree, thinking he has in his hand something more than a tree trunk.

Actually one of the pre-requisites for attaining the jalus is for the sake of all sentient beings. Oh... ok. "They take copper to be gold. Bound by discursive thought" -Mahasiddha Saraha the potter. No, what I meant was that the reasons for my confidence is due to lineage beyond myself. The realizations of those that have come before me that I can depend upon to help guide me, both through practice and conceptual elaboration. It was a metaphor. While your confidence comes only from your own private bag of blind tricks you tell yourself is truth. You look at a master, and criticize without direct insight. Damning that which offers you help. Nah... I know what I'm talking about. You on the other hand do not. You stand alone, not supported by the mahasiddhas that have come before you even considered spirituality. Sure, if acted on without wisdom. This right here magnifies for me the assumptive quality in your intellectual musings. I don't have to defend my teachers. They have enough enlightened students and real teachings going around with far more merit in this moment than you could muster in your whole life thus far. I do just want to offer a different perspective from your own as you cause harm steering people away from true lineages and real techniques beyond this intellectual concept pushing that you do. But, I do try to help you get over yourself, but as you might be too far gone, at least some others can read these refutations of your self proclaimed nonsense and get something from them. Please if you want to really learn how to manifest the body of light and if you really want to learn about Rigpa people. Go to true masters like this... Chogyal Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche Who's two direct teachers attain the Jalus (body of light) as genuine proof of the validity of his teaching lineage. Steer away from new age lineage damning pundits like GIH if you want something more than a nice discussion online.

You should go study with a real living Master, a master from lineage with teachers who've actually attained the Jalus, talk to them directly and see what they say about all this intellectual rummaging. It must be integrated into every nuance of one's personal being through visualizations, which may arise spontaneously that illumine the unconscious and the subconscious and physical movements that integrate and ground it's reflection through the physical cells. Ok, who are your Buddhist teachers then? You just read some books and gained some knowledge, thinking you've mastered the perspective? You have dear fellow. You poor, poor soul. So, your lineage of personally ascertained information and your lineage of personal experience has illumined that fact for us, has it? You poor deluded fellow. Wow, how deluded you are by personal pride. It's quite sad. You do have such potential though. Intellectual musings.

Well, what is being human? It's just a collection of information as delineated through many spectrums of self identified previous experiences, based on "human" lineage, DNA, etc. It's really just an embodied expression of cosmic potential, and in that sense, equal with all other expressions, a play of light, color, vibration, sound, and shadow. Thus, nothing can harm you, it's just pure expression happening on many levels. It's not really the experience that disempowered you, it's the interpretation of it. But, this happens a lot with drug induced experiences of spiritual ramification. This is why I prefer to recommend transmission from enlightened lineage of whatever tradition, though I prefer Buddhist, specifically Mahamudra and Dzogchen, as well as Taoist, or if in a clutch situation, go for a genuine Shaivite Hindu Master who can give you shaktipat empowered by lineage, if you have no other access to an experience granted through a compassionate buffer. But, the practices in Taoist and Buddhist lineages will be more nuanced and catalyzing towards positive outcome in my opinion.

Just watched that again with my wife the other day. I actually didn't finish it... thanks for reminding me though. I finished it the first time I saw it some time ago, but I didn't this time. I got up to the point where he's teaching his friend about holding the coin and hypnotizes him out of his migraine. I wish it was as detailed as the book though.

Ok, I don't know what you do offline. That would be an extreme interpretation. Sure for plenty. You stated with a sense of absolutism, "Your masters are fakes" So, I regret to inform you that you came across as a fake in that moment. That's not Rigpa. Rigpa is also physical. It's the directly cognized or aware insight into the nature of things as Dharmakaya, Sambhogakaya, and Nirmanakaya. The realization of emptiness (dharmakaya), the energy of it's realization (sambogakaya) and the expression through conceptual and rigid formations as a physical body (nirmanakaya). While diminishing true lineages with actual people who have actually attained the Rainbow Body? Thus, you are just barking here, self protecting and not actualizing anything of what you've said. What students of your lineage of expression have attained the Jalus? Not proven otherwise to me at least. I don't know you offline though. But, the way you talk of my teachers and their lineage, is quite reflective of lack insight on your part.

That would be subjective idealism, not recognizing interdependent origination/emptiness. It all depends upon how you define liberation. If you think it's just a good inside feeling, then that would not be insight into the nature of self as inter-dependent, but rather that subjective experience is idealized as ultimate. Which it is to a degree, otherwise you wouldn't have the capacity to discern between what increases and deepens insightful joy and what does not, but what gave you the possibility to have this experience to begin with?

Your enlightenment is mere concept pushing, it merely scratches the surface. Trust me GIH. Listen to what I have to say, it's worthy of hearing. You do not teach meditation techniques and mantra techniques, mantras that have been used by beings who became enlightened masters that have walked the Earth thus by using them you are creating a karmic connection to them. A liberating karmic connection so powerful that you have no idea what I'm talking about because your experience is limited by it's lack of true practice and attainment. You also don't teach yogic techniques which help the body cells change their vibration and hold the state of rigpa with clarity through the physical apparatus. You also don't teach visualizations which bring the mind into non-conceptual states of wisdom which can lead to the Jalus. This is a compassionate manifestation for the sake of elongating ones connection with physically present beings beyond the 3 dimensional appearance of ones personal body. Seriously, you are deeply lacking in anything other than a good dose of concept pushing.

If you think like this, then you will not be able to apply wisdom in a nuanced fashion through conceptual elaboration. Then, how about, wisdom is a product of consciousness? How about that, does that work for your personal sensibilities? Wow, this old dog can't learn new tricks, can he?

The ability to transmit Rigpa and the practices that help mantain this level of insightful awareness. You spend much time speaking from a conceptual point of view that is best defined through the Buddhadharma, while never actually having delved into it's practice through genuine lineage. You consider yourself to be a Master of it's essential wisdom, without regard for it's genuine practices of Mantra, Mudra, Visualization and Yoga. Since you are without disciples, you should be able to attain the rainbow body at your time of death if you are such a master of the mysteries as exposed by Dzogchen but without it's living lineage, none the less. If you stay trapped in critical thinking, you're lost buddy. Also, your cynical interpretation of lineage is reflective enough of your lack of insight for me to take everything you say with a grain of salt and deny some key points in your arguments with inner immunity. As yes, I have critical thinking engaged without being lost or self defined by it. No sweat off my back, but you are not really helping people by teaching them to become more individualistic and even more enmeshed in mere intellectual understandings, saying to people to never get transmission from a REAL master unlike yourself who is merely an arm chair pundit. You are only worse than myself by the fact that you never refer anyone to a genuine master that can actually teach them more than concept pushing such as what you do. It's a safe arrogance that's better than your self arisen arrogance. At least the reasons for my arrogance are beyond myself. One cannot say the same about your arrogance. Sure, and this is where critical thinking can be good, but where critical thinking can be bad is when one is just critical without thinking about it's bitter causes from within. Lineage also holds secret various teachings and methods in order to maintain the purity of these teachings and practices so that they don't get abused by people who are just not ready for these methods, and people who would actually be harmed by applying these practices. Like Vajrayana Yantra Yoga practices, should really be learned directly from a master, otherwise these practices can lead to harm. Also, Highest Yoga Tantra karmamudra practices should be learned from a master in order that they don't get polluted, like they have already in neo-tantra groups that just use it for the sake of elongated sexual satisfaction. Again, you take the negative road, I'll take the positive road. I have not experienced this in the lineages I've practiced through. So, your statement is a mute point according to my personal experience and merely conjecture based upon reading some "shit" and not actually practicing lineage transmissions. Thus, you are ignorant when it comes to talking about lineages and are merely a critic without any direct experience to base your criticisms on.

What does dogma mean to you? For me, considering all things as one ultimate thing, is a dogma. Any form of identity that one attaches to as self, either conceptual, or non-conceptual, is a dogma for me.

Yes, I've done that flip as well. Very good, now we're getting somewhere. So now you are using the terms interchangeably to get to the same definition of insight. So then, consciousness is a product of awareness. Still, for me, due to my Hindu upbringing, I find the opposite interchange to be more pleasing. So, I'll go that way, you can go the other way. As long as the meaning is ascertained. For me, and plenty of others, Buddhadharma is quite nuanced when it comes to defining the nature of the wisdom that liberates. All your pontificating is reflective of being heavily conditioned by the Western interpreted Buddhadharma. Regardless of whether you are conscious/aware of it or not.

You're so full of yourself GIH. With statements like this, I'm glad that you are. Because if you weren't, you wouldn't make such a statement. If you weren't full of yourself, then you would be deliberately confusing people. But, you are not, so it's good that you are full of yourself told BS, thus people can know that statements like this are reflective of that ignorance. So, you are a real Master GIH? Oh well... I should just shut up then because you don't approve of my expressions. Oh great god! So sorry! Out of genuine compassion, I do care how Buddhadharma is translated into the West, for the sake of those interested will not be confused by people such as yourself. Not that you have nothing good to say, because you do, but you are no master dear fellow. You have lots to humble yourself to and lots deeper to go. You also don't have a clear enough understanding of the intentions and practices of Buddhist lineage to be a good source of information concerning critical analysis of it.

By considering your subjective experience an ideal mode of determining the nature of things as monistic. You are basically taking the subject that is you and expanding it universally through saying, "I'm not the body, but I am more what made the body, and more what made that body, so on and so forth to the big bang" and considering it proof of an experience of an ultimate ineffable substratum as a self existing Alpha, which you might call Tao that is also Omega. So, through subjective idealism, you have rationalized your experience of intuition as proof of monistic idealism (ultimate oneness). Which is basically taking the small self clinging and applying it to a non-conceptual state of mind where you felt "one" with everything calling that the ultimate Self of all things? For me, Tao just means the way of mutually dependent co-origination of all phenomenal arisings without a self, neither individually, except relatively, but also not a Self universally. I'm more from a Buddhist camp view point though. So, I wouldn't know exactly how you internalize the term Tao and I bet it will deepen as you deepen your self awareness over the time of practice as it will for me.

Nah, I disagree with your assumption about me.

I see this all as an excuse not to learn more and to stay conditioned by limited views of English concepts. You are conscious, yes? But not necessarily aware of what that one person is doing in Alaska with his wife on the front porch of a specific house on the coast. Just like an ant is conscious, but is not aware of the nature of his consciousness. So, it helps to use these terms differently when getting nuanced about the nature of self aware consciousness within a discussion about spirituality. Or how one can be a form of self aware sentience, rather than unaware sentience. I think consciousness is more synonymous with sentience than it is with awareness when one wants to talk from a spiritual point of view in translating the Buddhadharma into English in a nuanced fashion. If you or anyone wants to resist this, then go ahead. For me, experientially, it fits and plenty read it and agree with me. I can't write for everybody on planet Earth.

Yes, but unlike you, who thinks himself the wisest of the wise, the super guru who will bring down all dogmatic systems of thought in the world while much like Krishnamurti, will not proclaim himself to be a guru and say not to go get transmissions from real lineage guru's, but to listen to him instead. Meanwhile will be absolutely unaware of his own inner dogmas concerning reality. I am more interested in how the Indian born Buddhadharma transfers itself into the West. To do so, would mean being very nuanced and scholarly in how I use English to define terms which originally appear in Sanskrit. For instance, all these concepts of "universal consciousness" that came about in the 60's and 70's comes in a large part from the popularization of Eastern Philosophy in the West with the simultaneous popularization of mind expanding substances like acid, mushrooms, peyote, etc. Concepts of Krishna Consciousness from ISKON and applying it to Christ (consciousness) as well as Trungpa and Muktananda, and plenty of others including Yogananda's troupe. Also others from a far more Taoist persuasion, plenty inspired as such by Bruce Lee. Before this, plenty of people would not have even had a concept of Cosmic Consciousness, as this word really didn't exist as an English colloquialism until it was translated from Eastern terms such as Brahman, Tao, and mistranslations of the term Tathagatagarbha with people of those days thinking that Buddhanature means the same thing as Brahman and Tao. It's just sloppy scholarship leading to sloppy understanding and interpretation of experiences which would not have even been recognized if it wasn't for the above mentioned movement of Eastern philosophy from it's origin to the West in storm. Not saying the experience is due to these concepts in whole, but only due to a large part. Also, Buddhism is not concerned with an ultimate experience, but rather an ultimate insight into the nature of experience, which is a different approach from Monistic Idealism (Vedanta, Shaivism, etc.). Therefore the term, "awareness" in English will be used differently for a Buddhist, than for a Hindu just like it does in Sanskrit.

As defined by how deeply you've delved into the nature of your own consciousness as connected with matter.

Then your view is monistic idealism. Which is defined as the ideal that all things are ultimately one transcendent thing. Now, for the second part, how did you come to this understanding?

What you are stating is still based upon subjective ignorance though. Sanskrit is far more powerful of a language and far more nuanced. I grew up Hindu chanting Sanskrit and learning the meaning of it's words while living in an English speaking country, so I am aware of both. Even repeating the words itself is very nuanced and use more of the tongue and mouth than English and have a tendency to ground a person more and focus a persons mind more, as it's far less sloppy of a language and yes, far more nuanced as an objective fact. It's not necessary for liberation, but there is a reason why Buddhist tantric masters refer back to Sanskrit over and over again. You think it's a dogma, but really, it's just your lack of experience in traditional forms of Buddhism from India. Sanskrit is a language with more particulars and more grounding definition even within the nuances of repeating the syllables. It's true that if a person only knows English, then English is what's going to grant access to the meaning of concepts and not Sanskrit. None the less, I am who I am as you are you, just as conditioned as you are by your upbringing in order to mold your mode of expression, as am I. So, I have if you will, helped you see the concept of awareness from a different view point, thus broadening your experience of awareness. That is my intention. You can take it or leave it.

Is everything really a oneness to you?

I was just referring to where I got my re-nuanced definition of awareness from, that is all. Do I sit here talking in sanskrit all day? I speak English and I do my best to find English equivalents for originally sanskrit terms without even mentioning the sanskrit term.

Monistic Idealism Based upon reifying experiences arising due to Subjective Idealism

No, it works for me. So, I'll share it... I've found it useful for awareness to know some sanskrit. It's not absolutely necessary for liberation, but even Norbu thinks it better many times to teach the Sanskrit terms over the Tibetan.