Vajrahridaya

Oh I see what you're saying, yes I agree with that. Just like one's experience of independent origination arises dependent upon that view. Thus, dependent origination rules the day. Well of course.

Awareness arises due to causes and conditions as well. Nagarjuna: “No existents whatsoever are evident anywhere that are arisen from themselves, from another, from both, or from a non-cause.” or “Neither from itself nor from another, Nor from both, Nor without a cause, Does anything whatever, anywhere arise.”

Anuttarasamyaksambodhi Buddhas are extremely rare within the history of Earth. I wouldn't know what that would be like either. "Anuttara-samyak-sambodhi - Supreme, unexcelled, perfect and equal enlightenment. The perfect wisdom which comprehends truth that is attained only by a Buddha, in contrast to the different grades of enlightenment attained by Bodhisattvas and Arahants."

No, see through it, not reject it. It's the physical constituents one is reverting into pure expressions of the sambhogakaya without being hampered by dense limitations. No, that would be independent origination, or solipsism. I am a product of inter-influencing both including and beyond myself. You said that, I just neglected to put the quote box around it. Then maybe people will get a broader view, seeing that they are not always completely negative and not always completely positive. It helps, there is a power about that which makes the experience of another persons state of being more visceral.

Who knows, maybe aspects you don't accept now you might accept later as wisdom deepens.

More like see through it and see that physical is not really physical but not necessarily not physical either. Oh boy. I know I'm involved in the process, I always had the potential, but my understanding of it and the transmissions of mind to mind that helped me experience it for myself come from lineage empowerments. But so are those various masters of antiquity, eh? That's not exactly true. Not from the way you are talking here. Actually, I'm absolutely fine. Do you see how subjective reading on these boards are? Anyway... go write a book, get it published, reach a large audience. Or just keep chatting on here. Whatever, but I will challenge your lineage bashing and extreme negative view of religion. If you are so highly realized, you should intermingle with people more, get out more, hang out with sanghams and affect people with your personal self transcending presence. Widen your field of influence.

Yes, he did. I also agree with the communication part. He could have learned a few things from lineage transmission on how to communicate his realization better. This is why in Vajrayana, even masters go to get transmissions over and over again from different masters, all sharing techniques and methods with each other for the sake of posterity and helping other beings.

Yes, but how is Moksha defined in Hinduism?

K does garner more respect from me.

No, I just see it's validity. Actually, I really don't. I find you far more reactive when I challenge your statements of you being so hard headed about qualified lineages with much higher realization than yourself. No, it's not really his, he just commented on it in that version. No, I'm right. There are plenty here that can see this as well. Of course, you'll say they are caught up in this or that mental dogma... whatever. Why not write a book, get it published, and reach many people if you're so realized? Or, is this the one manifestation that is the super pundit here on TTB's only and you have other incarnations doing other things simultaneously teaching in other ways? Actually, don't answer that, I'm pretty sure you'll say yes. Oh GIH, you're so high, so realized, I'm so ignorant, I should learn from you and listen to you, meanwhile, please, bash all my lineages and teachers, they are crap compared to you GIH. You are the true holder of wisdom that they are not qualified to teach! Get a life dude. Seriously. Self proclaimed Godman.

Still, because you are turning your physical constituents into an elongated expression of the sambhogakaya past the appearance of physical density, the karmic connections with beings on this plane of existence is as well elongated. You have to understand this intuitively, as if you make any one of these statements above really solid, or completely not solid, you are missing the point. Including your conclusions of the intentions of various Masters of antiquity. No, the difference is that my confidence is brought forth from within me by empowered lineage, while yours is not. Such arrogant BS. Do you think you are some sort of Avatar? Some supreme godhead manifest? Krishna's new form or something? You flatter yourself too much, as you think your words are like golden gods. It would help you gain more recognition thereby reaching more people with your "wondrous" message of independent thinking. You're like the reincarnation of Jiddu Krishnamurti. Whatever dude.

I do agree with that. But the goal of Vajrayana is much deeper than in Christianity as a whole. Then again, there are the Christian mystics and they all went on extensive retreats and most if not all were celibate monks. There aren't really any or any that I know of, lay practitioner Christians that are or were even way back when as highly realized as the Tantric masters of India during the same time 2,000 years ago. Maybe there were, but they sure didn't share any teachings, either that or they're gone with the wind.

They are all in each other and outside of each other. You're still thinking top down dimensionally. The primordial dimension of experience is consciousness and the radiance's of the elements, intermingled and inter-influencing, but it's consciousness that motivates the elements to manifest, even though it's the fermentation of the elements that manifest the consciousness at the same time. See it's not top down as if all things arise from one single transcendent non-thing, it's sideways but as a sphere, "all" created "all" since beginningless time. No single point of origin. You can't say for sure that consciousness created the elements and you can't say for sure that the elements created consciousness. But the elements also bounce off each other, like for instance, you throw a ball, but the ball and the elements intermingle in a way that is not necessarily the will of the consciousness. Then there are those conscious beings who can will deeper than apparent matter into the radiance's and influence from there, thus doing things deemed as magic. Like for instance siddhi's. It's more accurate to say consciousness' and matter's in the plural. All connected due to inter-dependency and emptiness flowing without beginning. If you are looking for a single point of origin, you won't find one. The inter-mingling is without beginning. Your experience of the alayavijnana is still your experience of it, though here differences between the infinite mind streams is less dense, it's still not all just one big mind stream with a cosmic Self identity. Interpretations differ according to how one internalizes the concepts or the statements as a whole. You may go back and re-read what was said and understand it in a way that you didn't before, and then it might make sense. Maybe, maybe not. Misunderstanding happens a lot when talking about spirituality because we are using crude matter to point to what is subtler and more dynamic than the crude forms of matter these symbols appear as and through. But, they are also empty and can be slightly redefined subjectively.

I don't agree. Vajrayana was not originally created for or by monks at all, but for and by lay-practitioners as a way to manifest enlightenment during the physical activities of life.

Inadvertently screwed this post up.

No, I don't have blind faith. What I was just saying to you is, don't be so sure that what you don't know, you can't know through further self analysis and meditative insight. That is all.

You haven't read my narrative very well then. I've stated this over and over again since I got here.

You don't read very well before emotionally pouncing on me, it's a habit of yours to do this. If you backtrack through the posts, I did say that Sanskrit is not perfect, but it's more nuanced than English. I never said it's unlimited, just less limited than English.

Actually, there are rules concerning it's manifestations. All it's manifestations are inter-dependent and not independent. They are all empty of inherent existence, and without static essence. Knowing these rules directly, one can be more flexible within this universe and not be as limited by the physical body. If there are no dogmas about the universe informer, please sprout wings and fly over here right now. I live in Oakville, Ontario. What is the primal cause for your ability to be? There are different forms of dogmas. Mental, religious, political, social. None the less, the cosmos works in a certain way. There is nothing unknowable, just some things take more time to know than others. Your body right now, is connected to everything that ever was and ever will be, so, through deepening awareness of this, you can in fact directly experience various things beyond the perceived limits of your body while at the same time being limited by your body, because well, the universe is dogmatic because of the collected notions of beginning-less sentient beings co-manifesting this apparently dense reality. Have you flown over here yet? How about teleport? If the universe is so non-dogmatic, you should be able to teleport over here right now!

phenomena neither physical, nor non-physical. Like a dream, not really a dream. Experienced my own body dissolving into rainbow light, it was a bit scary at first and I could feel the death process setting on, then Ganesh sat on my chest, held me down and turned into Rinpoche, repeated a mantra then disappeared and my physical constituents coagulated (sort of speak) again into physically felt peace and calm. It was quite astounding. Many, many other things have happened as well to show me the validity of the Jalus. This was just while laying in bed I had many other visions while in between waking and dreaming. Stuff like this happened many times for the first few years after my first transmission from Norbu in order to show me various direct insights about the tradition of Dzogchen that is both unique and beautiful. During a Jnana Dakini transmission, a female Buddha of the Dzogchen tradition: Making sense of Tantra: Berzin Archives. "Because the audience for Buddha's teachings consisted of a variety of beings, not only humans, some of them safeguarded material for later, more conducive times. For example, the half-human half-serpent nagas preserved The Prajnaparamita Sutras in their subterranean kingdom beneath a lake until the Indian master Nagarjuna came to retrieve them. Jnana Dakini, a supranormal female adept, kept The Vajrabhairava Tantra in Oddiyana until the Indian master Lalitavajra journeyed there on the advice of a pure vision of Manjushri. Moreover, both Indian and Tibetan masters hid scriptures for safekeeping in physical locations or implanted them as potentials in special disciples' minds. Later generations of masters uncovered them as treasure-texts (terma, gter-ma). Asanga, for example, buried Maitreya's Furthest Everlasting Continuum, and the Indian master Maitripa unearthed it many centuries later. Padmasambhava concealed innumerable tantra texts in Tibet, which subsequent Nyingma masters discovered in the recesses of temples or in their own minds." Anyway, I saw her in the room, my third eye filled with blissful light, she was just made of light and smiling, such bliss and wonder. It was very nice. Norbu said after the transmission that it's possible to see Jhana Dakini, as a confirmation of this experience. Sure, but it's more nuanced than that. Have you read Norbu's Kunjed Gyalpo? You only have an idea, but you don't know directly. Your lack of humility reveals that lineage can offer far more than you.

Actually the Rainbow body makes it easier for a Buddha to interact with those without the merit to communicate with Buddhas in the Sambhogakaya. Also, just because one has attained the Rainbow Body, doesn't mean one can't still project incarnations of enlightened physical activity, such is the case with Norbu. Also, in order to attain the Rainbow Body, one must see through both real and unreal. It's the middle way, remember? Beings neither exist, nor do not exist. Beings are neither real nor not real, this goes with my lineages. Your confidence is entirely inborn, without support from true Master Buddhas who have gone before you, thus it's more like a mirage that you tell yourself is reflective of total realization without actually having it. You need guidance, you don't really know what's up, but you're just too chicken to bow to a real Master in utter self offering humility. Sure, you have insight, but not Buddhahood, nor are you qualified enough to teach what you haven't received, such as Dzogchen or Mahamudra teachings. This is where you faulted and this is where you do a great disservice. Telling people to listen to you over going to a genuine Master with lineage that has actually attained the Rainbow Body, with practices that actually work for it's realization of complete Buddhahood and physical integration. So you claim to be a Master without the credentials, basically.

They're not anti-intellectual. They just don't see it as ultimate either. They also aren't secret keeping in the sense that you are projecting. Not the ones that I like. Nope. Please yourself. You can't make absolutist comments on religions that you don't fully know about or have incomplete realization according to there texts and Masters and not be challenged. My understanding of Hinduism is challenged all the time here, it's fun!

Not according to the Hindu scriptures. Anyway, there's nothing wrong with becoming a living god, filled with love, powers of perception beyond the ordinary, filled with compassion, tireless energy and inspiration. It's a very good place to be. Many Buddhists could only hope to attain such an exalted state while living. It's just not Buddhahood is all.

A wall? Yes, you can know. There are powers of perception that arise through meditation and yogic contemplation that allow you access to higher forms of cognition which transcend the limits of the 5 physical senses. I'm just saying... study the teachings of living and passed on masters, practice their teachings.

Meditate on it.