11:33

"A more advanced student might barely move at all".

 

Oscar Hsu is a "certified advance Kunlun teacher.

 

When I practice Stillness-Movement I hardly move at all does that mean I'm an advanced student?

You don't practice Shaolin Cosmos Qigong, so I can't say what your advancement is or is not. Even if you were a Shaolin Cosmos Qigong student I might not be able to say

In Shaolin Cosmos Qigong people seem to go through different phases. They are taught not to intellectualize, not to worry and to enjoy the practice. Whether you move or don't move is not the point. And whether you do or don't move doesn't mean one thing or another necessarily.

Having said that, in general there tends to be a progression over time from no movement, to movement, to vigorous movement, to less movement, back to very gentle movements/flowing stillness. At the start you don't move because the energy isn't flowing, in the middle you move a lot because the energy is opening a lot of blockages, as you progress there is less movement as the qi is flowing smoothly.

But there are tons of exceptions, and I don't know all of the details, the above is just a general rough idea.

All the Best,

11:33

Hi Fellow Tao Bums,

Who are the recognized living enlightened masters?

YES!

"Harm to one is harm to all" can easily be misconceived as...as Charles Manson put it: "If everything is one then nothing wrong," or "Harm to all is Harm to no ONE." So I would be careful to come away with such a statement, since it can easily be manipulated within the mind. I would also hesitate to conclude that there is no individuality. I believe that matter is, as you did, to be experienced and not to be conceptualized. Lol...so as Trevcaru said...forget it..?

In my opinion, that is just a case of misusing logic (incorrect logic). Neither of those two statements follow logically from what I experienced.

Also, I would like to point out I never said that there is no individuality.

Trevcaru,

Thank you for explaining what you meant more in full. It makes sense.

11:33

Hi,

Do any of you have experience taking and/or making medicated wine? You take tonic herbs and put them in a big jar of alcohol for months and then you drink an oz or 2 a day I think...

Small deviation in the beginning will lead to big deviation at the end.

When I first took up qigong years ago I started with Zhan Zhuang from The Way of Energy by Lam Kam Chuen.

After about a week or so of diligently following the instructions I found myself angry. Very angry and just emotionally a mess. I was upset at people for no reason. I had a lot of blockages in my channels at that time and learning these zhan zhuang exercises was too much for me, they exacerbated the negative. Maybe you would fair differently. I know a lot of people manage to escape the pitfalls.

When in doubt, find an instructor to check your posture.

I always thought red wine was the best choice of alcohols.

...

On another note, don't they make medicinal wines using hard liquor? So having some amount of alcohol a day isn't a big deal even for Taoist herbalists, [just don't drink more than one a day??????]

So should I forget about what I know? And then I can go back to not knowing what I know? So then I could pretend you aren't connected to me?

Seems shaky.

I have edited my original post to say,

"What do you think, and why do you think it?"

because without the why, then I have nothing to go on. You think I should forget it. This amounts to very little help.

Hi guys,

I'm quite interested in Traditional Chinese Medicine. So much so, that I have considered attending school and being a professional.

What experiences do any of you have with Traditional Chinese Medicine, whether as the practitioner or as the patient?

I am aware that much like qigong there are many schools of Chinese Medicine, outside of the centralized-standardized TCM. Do any of you have any good information on different lineages of Chinese Medicine?

Do any of you have solid recommendations for good schools, especially ones with lineage teachings (as opposed to simplified-standardized TCM teachings...)

I'd love to hear more about all of this!

All the Best

Hello everyone,

I want to share an experience I had a couple months ago in and after wuji stance standing meditation practice at the end of my cih-kung session.

I have recently been experiencing really clear and thoughtless standing zen mediation, and in this particular practice session I had a revelation occur to me.

When I was thoughtless in meditation, I 'saw' that the idea that common humans think of as *I*, or *you*, are not accurate descriptions of life. I saw that what I normally think of as Me (or any *I*, actually) is not a unique and separate entity. What I saw was a being who couldn't exist without infinite factors from outside me. And that he wouldn't even exist as he knows himself to be without all of these factors. I saw that in fact, that which is outside of my body (all of Earth - all nations - all everything - all space, planets, galaxies, etc) is actually intimately married to him.

And I 'saw' that somehow the idea of *I* is a misperception, or a inaccurate way of seeing myself. I saw that I could not be, without the world. And that the world could not be as it is without me. So in a sense I saw the world like a very large creature, and what I think of as *Me* is like a appendage of that creature.

I 'saw' a very real intertwining with all of reality, and I saw that nothing I do doesn't effect everything. And that there is nothing I can do that ever will not effect everything.

I came away from that experience with the words, "Harm to One is Harm to All" very strongly resounding inside my mind-heart, as a reminder.

I have in the past been a very, very individuality-centric person. I won't say I've been a selfish jerk, but I have valued the idea of individuality a LOT. And to me that very idea of individuality is based in the assumption that we are separate entities, that are not effecting the world around us. And that all comes down to our definitions (or assumed definitions) of the words "I" and "you", and related words based on the concepts that exists as natural, inherent offshoots of these two base concepts.

In that meditation, I 'saw' that the above bolded line simply isn't true. Quite the contrary; I saw that nothing I do isn't effecting everything. But I 'saw' that most people trained from birth in the concepts of *I* and *you* are existing within certain assumptions about who we are that aren't accurate. I saw that these assumptions are causing humanity many many of its problems, as it assumes separation.

It has been a very meaningful revelation for me. I will carry the words, "Harm to One is Harm to All" with me where ever I go now.

What do you think, and why do you think it?

Where can I find a tape/CD of Yan Xin's methods?

Thanks in advance

EDITED:

Found a great instruction for Yan Xin at this thread here

Or go straight to the site here

Why couldn't your friend see another way out of this situation? Why was his ex-wife being DEAD the only solution? All this power in his mind, and all he can come up with is to force her to die? Seems silly. Why not envision a win-win solution for the both of them. Clearly it isn't metaphysics that s the problem. Metaphysics just helps people understand a bit more how the world works.

The main question I have is why would he choose killing her? Doesn't sound so good. What's wrong with your friend? Does he have no heart? Beyond having no heart, how come he didn't look for a win-win situation?

11:33,

 

Welcome to taobums! Our AugustLeo is from RI too!

 

Your pal,

Yoda

Thanks, I will enjoy participating in some quality conversations.

P.S.

I always wanted to meet Yoda

I'm new here. Second post actually.

I'd like to add my two cents on the subject of wu wei.

To me wu wei means being natural. Letting-go and being led from within. It is an intuitive way of living that opens you to the infinite. The normal conscious mind is limited in what it can know, but through wu wei we can open up to the infinite within us as well as outside of us.

This isn't just a theoretical concept to me. I have many situations where I allowed myself to be led by some unseen force and had something very beneficial come of it. But to really open up to this you have to let-go of preconceptions.

To me a state of wu wei feels like letting your spirit move you. And as your spirit is connected to THE Spirit, it is somewhat like letting-go and letting God. though it can be quite mundane, like knowing intuitively what food to eat for dinner, etc...

All the Best

Hello,

I've been enjoying reading discussions on your forum for quite some time. You come up pretty often in various Google searches I do. So I thought I would join some of the discussions.

I am a student of many things. And have done a lot of my own personal experiential understanding. Too much to explain here. Way too much. So I'll save all that for some discussions.

~11:33~