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I think so. Lots of posts here are opinions that are a disagreement with a some part of a prior poster's point. Also the essence of debate is two or more somehow differing points of view which means by definition that they disagree with the other side. have a good one!!

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The Intrinsic Energies of T'Ai Chi Ch'Uan (Chen Kung Series, Vol 2) Stuart Alve Olson http://www.amazon.com/Intrinsic-Energies-ChUan-Chen-Kung/dp/093804513X/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1279726592&sr=1-4 From an Amazon Reviewer: "I don't like giving out 5 stars but this book deserves them! NOT intended for beginners, this book is the only English source for information on the "jings" or skills involved in practicing real taiji. I really like how the author separates the translation from his commentary. This makes it easier to know who is saying what. An excellent reference, especially for those trying to understand how to perform correct tui shou."

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What EXACTLY did I say to ban me? Nothing. Just as I suspected. When I call you deluded, narrow minded, ego stuck, etc etc etc etc etc like V the Buddhist then let me know ....

Are you saying you can't think about a dog and write a detailed essay about it for 10 minutes? That's thinking about a dog for 10 minutes. I don't understand your point. How would that invalidate the Buddhas 4 truths?

Shame on you Marblehead! Disagreeing with V!! No love for you!!! ALL WHO DISAGREE WILL BE SHUNNED!!!! LOL

Brilliant!! Spoken like a true Buddha!!! j/k

Do you feel like an ogre? I never called you an ogre. Are you projecting? Funny thing is ...it's you who constantly makes an 'ogre' out of people who disagree as you can see by my list. Now that's hilarious! have a good one!!

Wierd. I completely disagree both with your characterization of yourself and your characterization of your detractors who are in fact ... 'just speaking their disagreements or agreements.' Maybe we should have a poll on this. Then your timid lurkers can vote anonymously (** Should timidity be added to your list of curses? I think so!!! **)

well now I have to add some more curses to my V the Buddhist Curses on the House of Taoists: button reactors flawed state of seeing (flawed/wrong vision i think) narrow minds YIKES! If I didn't know myself so well I'd feel bad! uh oh ... I'm starting to develop a theory about V ... Yes it's based on observation and logic ... but apparently V's lurkers don't see any of that.

Look at some of the Taoist philosophy threads... All one sees are pats on the back and sweet exchanges of niceties, like 10 responses tops, all congratulatory in nature, all in agreement of sorts. "Yeah, i feel the same, this is it, the way its meant to be, i realized it and so on", and thats the end of the thread. well we've been cursed for a lot of things here by V the Buddhist: deluded, projecting, anger driven, fear driven, stuck in self etc etc etc But this is the first time we've been cursed for being in agreement and sweet!!!!!!!!!! Can't win for losing!~ have a good one!!

Yep absolutely ... I second the above ..... Reminds me of Lao Tzu's: "Those who are content are rich." And as you said Marblehead, contentment can be achieved with next to nothing (basics only) and I once heard of a millionaire who had horrid health problems .... so no guarantee of contentment through that. If one can achieve contentment given their personal situation, then they are truly rich!! And the Tao is a big help in that direction. have a good one!!

great thread idea ...... I learned YMAA (Dr. yang jwing-ming) chen style tai chi from my teacher. I liked Dr. Yang's book: The Essence of Tai Chi Chi Kung : Health and Martial Arts (YMAA Publication Center Book Series) http://www.amazon.com/Essence-Tai-Chi-Kung-Publication/review/product/0940871106/ref=ntt_at_ep_cm Got good Amazon reviews. I found the following from it by an Amazon reviewer at link for an idea of what its about. Root: 1. Being rooted means to be stable and in firm contact with the ground 2. You must be centered (focusing the mind on the center), settled, and relaxed. "Since your body isn't struggling to stand up, your Yi (mind/intent) won't be pushing upward, and your body, mind, and chi will be able to sink." 3. Yi leads the chi. Chi can not be pushed or forced, it must be lead by the Yi. To lead the chi to the feet, the mind must first focus on the center. "Only when your Yi can communicate with the ground will your Chi be able to grow beyond your feet and enter the ground to build root." The bubbling well cavity is the gate which enables your chi tto communicate with the ground. 4. A stable center will make your chi develop evenly and uniformly. "In order to keep your body centered, you must first center your Yi, and then match your body to it." Your mental and physical center is the key which enables you to lead your chi beyond your body. 5. Balance your Yi. "If your Yi is balanced, it can help you to make accurate judgements, and therefore to correct the path of Chi flow. 6. Moving chi to your palms: Image you are pushing and object forward while keeping your muscles relaxed. What is Chi? 1. Chi is the energy or natural force which fills the universe. Three types exist: Heavan Chi, Earth Chi, and Human Chi. Earth Chi absorbs Heavan Chi. When chi or energy field loses it balance, it strives to rebalance itself. Heavan Chi affects Human Chi, flowing from the crown of the head through the energy meridians. When chi is flowing into the Dan Tien, the second mind activates. 2. Concentrate on Chi and achieve softness. (Lao Tzyy) "The men of old breathed clear down to their heels." Breathing is used to increase chi circulation. 3. Muscle/Tendon Changing classic taught the priests how to gain health and change their physical bodies from weak to strong: clean the bone marrow, strengthen blood and immune, and energize the brain. 4. The masters discovered specific body movements could increase chi flow to specific organs of the body: Tai Chi Chuan form, five animal postures, and Tai chi chi kung forms. Other Kungfu styles emerged: Wai Dan, Iron Shirt, Golden Bell Cover, Wai Kung, and Ying Kung. 5. Chi in your body is divided into two categories: Managing Chi and Guardian chi. The managing chi is hte energy which has been sent to the organs so that they can function. The guardian chi is the energy which has been sent to the surface of the body to form a shield to protect you from the negative outside influences such as cold. 6. Yin is the root and source of life which animates the Yang body and manifest power or strength externally. 7. Chi circulation and chi storage: a. there are twelve channels that circulate chi through out the body b. there are eight vessels or regions that make up the energy reserviors. When the eight reserviors are full the chi circulation is strong. Every channel has a certain chi flow strength and changes throughout the day. Chi sources are: natural energy (sun, moon, earth), food and air, thinking, and exercise. 8. When your chi is full, your Shen (spirit) will be enlivened. Chi flows to the brain and energizes the shen and soul. The Energizing and the raise Shen will lead the chi through the body. Shen is the control tower for your chi. 9. The earth chi is negative (Yin) energy from your kidneys, and the Heavan Chi is positive (Yang) energy which comes from the food you eat and the air you breath. Once you connect the two chis, you know what real chi is and this is what is meant to attain the tao. 10. Learn how to increase chi in the two main vessels - Yin conception vessel and Yang Governing vessel. 11. Learn how to raise chi to the surface of the skin and condense the chi to the bone marrow. Condensing produces jing, the secret to effortless power and distance power. 12. Wu Chi - chi in your body and the chi in nature unite and all human desires disppear. EDIT --- I think this thread should be pinned somehow. Lots of good info. ........

Hi MH, Well let's analyze it and see. premise 1. Pink Light works wonders. premise 2. Pink Light = Darth ----------------------------------- conclusion: Darth works wonders. the key here is the use of "=" which is equivalent to the two propositions: 1. Darth is Pink Light. 2. All of the Pink Light is Darth. If instead she had just said prop. 2 then there would be no universal conclusion possible: premise 1. Pink Light works wonders. premise 2. All of the Pink Light is Darth. ----------------------------------- Conclusion: Some things that work wonders are Darth. however prop 1 does indeed allow for a universal conclusion of the classic Barbara Syllogistic Form (see Aristotle): premise 1. Pink Light works wonders. premise 2. Darth is pink light. ----------------------------------- conclusion: Darth works wonders. oh well, that was fun. have a good one!!

just want to say thanks for posting this. watched it all from your link, and for the first time. I found it very timely and interesting. per above posts, Bill went to some sort of religious school. He even said as late as age 40 he made a promise to God to heal some illness he had, and he would stop smoking if He did.So he was religious at one time. No mention of Buddhism in it because religion here is referring to the big 3 (mostly). I thought he could have been a lot harder on them, and so in this regard he was open to listening to their explanations. All he was doing is asking questions about the logic of it all. I see no problem in that. And he does wrap it up with a very important point for the age in which we live. have a good one!!

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