Seth Ananda

Lol, read the whole post. It pretty much says feel free to post anything. That's why I put it there. And yes thank you for the Lao-Tsu point. I agree. Seth

I Love Ayahuascha dearly, I am one of Her great fans, and I would recommend Her to 'nearly' anyone. And Yes the Art is similar isn't it Still though I Know a lot of nut cases who take it regularly and it doesn't seem (I may be wrong here) to help them. I believe that If you surrender to her she will heal and work on you, but if you don't she will amplify all the weirdness in your psyche... In the Amazon there are many Shaman who use Ayahuascha for cursing, and their psychic battles, not for healing. But it does raise some Interesting points if that is what happened to Icke. I hope so... Thanks again. Seth

Welcome to The Tao Bums discussion forum. This is an informal community created to discuss Tao (Dao), particularly as is expressed in key philosophical texts such as the well known Tao Te Ching of Lao Tzu, health and cultivation practices such as Tai Chi and Qigong (Chi Kung), nonconceptual meditation approaches such as Zuowang (sitting and forgetting), and also the historical developments of Taoism as the bona fide Chinese religion of Taoist priests and shamans. Don't let this intro scare you though. Most of us are syncretic at heart. Discussion is encouraged to wander eclectically across a wide range of spiritual thought and practice, whether Buddhist, Yogic, Tantric, Judaic, Advaitic, Christian, Islamic, Shamanic, Occult, "New Age", Integral... As long as you are up for a good time, you're welcome to discuss your path. Though we can get rowdy at times, we all do our best to keep it civil. We are, almost as a rule, rather strange, but we have good hearts and even better senses of humor. If you are not already a member, registration is a three step process. First create a username for yourself. Make sure you use a valid email address because, next step, check your email and validate your email address. The final step to full membership; go to The Lobby forum and create a new post introducing yourself to the group, and telling us a little about yourself. It's just a little ritual we have here, your post can be as short or as long as you'd like. Again, welcome to The Tao Bums.

I have read a number of Icke books and I have to say I found numbers of dodgy miss quotes, miss representations and massive jumps of 'Logic' to support his theory's. I cant Put the reptilian thing aside because he/it gets dragged up so often when discussing Conspiracy Fact. If he is a government stooge, then his Info/predictions will be as close to the truth as possible. I really think that when the NWO heat is on, and the first resistance is building, there will be a large Media discrediting campaign with Icke as one of the Heralds of the 'Nut case' fringe. Some thing like - "Look they believe this: (truth) and this: (truth) and this: (Satanic reptilian Schizophrenia), so they are obviously all lunatics, standing in they way of the Earths one chance for world peace and unity" I think that even if he is not a government plant, He should be left out of anything that is trying to spread awareness to the Masses. Thanks though Taomeow, I love your posts.

Hi Fletch, My thought is don't worry too much If you are mainly working the Anal sphincter muscles at the tail bone side, you cant go wrong with a tiny little associative nerve reflex triggering a tiny P.C. contraction. You may one day learn to Isolate completely, but probably not and that's O.K. It is completely different to achieving injaculation with hard P.C. focused clenches. Find what works for you and Practice Practice Practice

EVERYONE should Overreact when they sense "neo-advaita" at work!!!

Thanks and yes, what Is the solution? I think that even if we got major awareness out there, all they would have to do is let us stew in the worse end of the economic collapse until we were so hungry and scared that we would happily accept their 'Solution'. So what are the options, and what will it take? Can it be done? I like to think so, but it's going to take work... One Idea I have is to make a global action web site, discussion centre, where people who don't know what to do can get inspired, print out give away flyers, download information dvd's to share, organise mass protests, organise Harassment of the bankers at their speaking events, and we can make a tidy Profit off the site as well, ( just kidding). Does anyone know if there is anything like this out there already? I think it should be sort of unaffiliated, Alex Jones is too much like a W.W.F. commentator (but bless his good work) . David Ike is probably a stooge in place so that when this gets more serious, the Media has the perfect person to discredit the whole movement with. -" Look, these people leading this movement actually believe that the government officials, Are Alien Satinist Nazi Reptile creatures!!!"- David Ike should be left out of all projects for public awareness.

David Attenbourogh (or however you spell his name ) did a great documentary on 'Gay' animals. I think its worth watching before saying anything like homosexuality is an exception in nature. If I remember its called Homosexual Animals. there are a few points. One is that any where over population in a community starts, Homosexuality increases. Natures way of slowing down breeding for population control. Another is just for pleasure, The monkeys that are believed to be closest to us are rampantly Bisexual, with any monkey having multiple sexual encounters a day with members of both sexes. The Footage is hilarious! Monkey Orgy's quite literally- with oral, anal, vaginal, penile, digital, and even including food!!! I Find the religious Idea that its wrong quite amusing, as a side diagram of a male and a female human body shows the rectum and the vagina to be pretty much the same shape with just the right angle - Just right for an erect penis that is. And gay men have Far lower issues with prostate health, due to the regular 'massage' they receive internally. Not to mention the prostate being a Major pleasure centre for a man. It seem's to me that God likes Anal sex or He wouldn't have made it all this way . Biologically in some people there are differences. It has to do with how much testosterone the foetus gets or not. For instance when a girl is at the stage when her attraction centres in her brain are forming, if she gets lots of testosterone from her mum she will develop a male attraction centre, and its round the opposite for gay men, with a small amount giving them a female attraction centre so that they are attracted to Men. It goes even further if the testosterone condition remains, in that the entire brain structure will be that of the opposite sexes. Many gay men actually have a Woman's brain, with its inter hemisphere connections, Eye for detail, nesting instincts (interior design),multi tasking capacities and the attraction to men. And Vice versa. Many Gay women, (often what we call Butch) have a Man's brain with its lack of inter hemisphere connections, ability to focus intensive on just one thing to the exclusion of all else. Drive and no ability to multi task. It is funny to think that many of these women are champions of the feminist movement, with there male brains. Of course Many people are Bi. And many learned the behaviour as well. You cant ignore the child sexual abuse victim statistics in the gay community. Many were abused and surely that can have a role in a developing sense of sexual identity. I know one boy who is 8 years old. His dad is a construction worker (a burly Male specimen) and seeing what a little queen his son was from about 3 caused him a lot of despair. He tried all kinds of things to de-gay him but to no avail and he has finally accepted it and fully supports him. All the little boy wanted to do was wear dresses, Do Ballet and he does and is great- and excessively hug other boys which sometimes gives him an erection, much to his dads embarrassment. He spends his time talking with the girls and gets infatuated over the boys. He also speaks with that sort of lisp that many gay people have. I found that really strange as I had thought that the way of speaking was probably developed within the gay community as some form of group Identity. Apparently not as he has had it since he could speak. I should add that he has No members of the gay community around him. quite the opposite really. Enjoy.

Ramtha is strange. The teachings are a mix of Hermetic Ideas, Indian Kundalini yoga, and New age Anthony Robbins 'You can achieve anything' style. The main exercise, C&E, is really close to the Kriya yoga Cobra breath, but with some interesting alterations. I think J.Z's experience is real but I don't believe all Ramthas claim's and I don't think anyone else should either. Whatever the being is it is defiantly a story teller, and never lets the truth get in the way of a good story Anyway, they do have some fun stuff. Seth.

I am very suspicious of the memory's that have surfaced during meditation's but one very strange memory is the one from child hood. I just 'Knew' exactly what it was like to be a field of grass. Thats right, plain old Lawn. I don't remember a nasty scene with a lawn mower, but i do remember the feeling of the roots drawing water, of all the bugs crawlling through me, of wind and sun on the leaves, and of creatures grazing [me]. I used to lay awake at night wondering how it was so vivid and real. Strange aye?

Falun Gong is an amazing technique and a slightly disturbing cult. I practised Daily, often times twice, for around two years. It is still one of the most Powerful practices I ever learned and it did a lot for me. At the same time, the cultish attitude of the group is quite repellent. You are literally not allowed to practice Anything else if you don't want a shouting at. They even frown on stillness meditation. Li Hongzi has made some pretty funny statements, like that he is watching all the Aliens and they are all bad... Fallun is a super technique that is released to man now so he can use it to defend earth from alien Invasion.. Chant his name if in danger... I dont know what anyone was thinking when they organised the 15 million person sit down protest on the Chinese government. It wasn't that long after tianamen square, and with Tibets atrocities in full swing. How did they think the Gov' would react? Of course they flipped and imprisoned them all and are now selling there kidneys on ebay. They are the Chinese Government. (I am not saying its Right of course) My advice would be to stay long enough to learn it well and then get out of there. Or learn Spring forrest... Or Wang Liping's system if thats an option. I am Hoping to learn that one day, as apparently Li Hongzi studied under Wang for a while. Have Fun

wow Xabir2005, thanks for going to all that effort to reply. I am not really sure how to answer so many points without writing a thesis, but I can't help feeling that you did exactly what I was talking about here. You wrote many clever words without simply looking at the simple shared reality described by so many traditions. You did of course look at the reality but from where? Certainly not from the simple shared experience... It doesn't matter how different the way in is. It doesn't even matter what the traditions particular perspective is compared to another's (I believe) as long as it can get you there. The simple fact is that They all describe the same State at the high levels. Did you not read the Dalai Lama's description of the true self? That is what they all describe. You can talk all day about dependent origination and emptiness, but anyone in the Dharmakaya state is in the same true self as anyone else experiencing the Self. The Self in Kashmir Shavism for Instance is not seen as some witness, but is experienced as Pure consciousness that contains the world and thoughts, and also is them at the same time, while also being pure empty freedom at the same time as well. It completely Includes everything we can see or experience in this world and goes way past it as well. Its All you at once in happy play. Seth

the Dalai Lama talking with John F. Avedon, in interview with the Dalai Lama, 63-64, says: "there are two types of "I" or Self: coarser and more subtle. There is the "I" which is designated on the gross mind and body and that which is designated on the subtle mind and energy. When the one is active the other is not. The coarse "I" is designated in dependence on the coarse mind and body. But even when they are not operating, there has to be an "I" designated. That is then designated to the subtle mind and body which are then present. For instance, a highly developed Yogi who is able to manifest a subtler consciousness and at the same time view conventional phenomena, for that person there is an innate sense of "I"- not in the coarser sense, but in a far more subtle sense - designated on the subtle mind and body." *** JA: What happens to the most subtle energy-mind when a being becomes enlightened? DL: The "I" of a Buddha, the Self of a Buddha, is this subtle "I". This is exactly the same as what most Yogi's and Mystic's claim. The False self fades slowly away as you see through its Facades (shunyata, Annihilation, the disappearance of the Mystic before god, or as bodri talkes about in his Kabbalah thread, the dissolving into Ain Soph(or something like that, its a while since i read him)) Then after Dissolving his ego he enters The true self or Buddah nature, the Dharmakaya. Which is described as pure Luminous being. Funnily enough this is what they all say about it. Only Buddha (God bless his soul) Chose to confuse the Issue with convoluted arguments about how the same thing was not the same thing. Indian Yoga: Brahman the true Self behind all - Described as Luminous Pure Being... Indian Tantra: Shiva or the Aham... The deepest purest "I" sense, The true Self, Infinite Luminous Being... European Alchemy and Hermetic science: Anima Mundi, The Soul of the World, Luminous Shining Being... Sufism: Allah is the Oneness of Being, Infinite and shining behind all... Kabbalah the same... Many Shamanic traditions the same... Blessings to all, May all Attain! Seth

Sufi's talk about the Baqa, the remaining after extinction, the existence after dissolution. In the same way Shunya, the experience of the void, which represents an ending of the personality or false self is only the step before realisation of the Dharmakaya or Buddha nature, The Real Self. Dont worry about Annihilation. The real you wont go anywhere

Its funny that there are so many arguments from the Buddhists saying that 'their Enlightenment' is the special different one and yet all the Descriptions of the Dharmakaya state are pretty much the same descriptions as the Yogi's, Sufi's and Mystics the world over. If the Buddhists had the one true enlightenment, wouldn't they have the most powerful masters? They don't. Masters from all traditions do pretty much the same amazing things. I think that the problem comes from Buddha's language. He was so intent on there not being an Atman that when he realised it he used a very convoluted set of ideas to avoid acknowledging a Self. Including the crazy 'mind streams' argument to avoid the fact of reincarnation of the soul. In my opinion, Buddha nature is the Self, and so far the descriptions of them are the same. Also Many Buddhists (like master Nan) agree with this. Bodri has written extensively on the Highest enlightenment in all traditions being the same. Seth.

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I just joined a MMA gym here in melbourne. its great. 25$ a week for unlimited access to Muay Thai, BJJ, boxing, arnis and Kyokoshin as well as a Gym. Insane exersize, Very friendly atmospehe. I am going to try to get to about 6 classes a week. Happy Me

Ghost = Nice or less that nice people who were a bit to attached to the earth plane and have hooked themselves to someone ot somwhere. I have had some great conversations with some. But in helping them move on I ask them directly if they know that they are dead? and I stick to that line of questioning untill they realise that yes they are dead and that "yes, maybe it is time that I got along..." "how strange, reallly? I am dead? well, I didnt think it would be like this..." They are often very polite about it and happyily shuffle off. I have always enjoyed this kind of work. Seth.

C'mon Gold, You cant say these teachings Santi is offering are not dangerous. I know it is popular lately in Kundalini Books to say that it isn't dangerous but a simple reading of the Kundalini posts here reveal a number of people who had really Bad experiences. I helped run a Kundalini support Group for years and I couldn't believe how many people turned up, who had Fucked themselves up using all this kind of stuff. Its not popular to say some things are best at least a bit secret, as no one wants to miss out. But untill you do something like Run a support group or advertise help, you just wont see how many burned people there are out there. And if you do I think you would quickly come to appreciate people like Santi who make this safe for others. Seth.

Thanks Hardyg. I will have to fish around for a while to find the good Anti -Anti stuff. More, like Ill have to ask my friend who is an environmental scientist and has been studying this stuff for years. She showed it to me in the first place. I only called the parts emotional that got personal. Then again maybe I didn't. That's what I meant. Sorry, I should have worded it better. I think if you are interested I will ask one of my friends that's been to Cuba to join TTB's and do a thread. I at least find it fascinating and very relevant for our times. I have never read a web link with a tourist report, so I don't have one of those. On Venezuela as far as I know they have and are modelling themselves on Cuba, and Cheves has met Castro many times. So far we will have to agree to disagree on the Environmental issues. Thats O.K with me Thanks for the engaging conversation Seth

I have been finding it Fascinating putting my Daughter to sleep at nights. I often lie next to her as she falls asleep and I guess cause I often meditate while I wait, I am in a more sensitive space to feel these things. While she lies there awake with her active personality there is a kind of Yang feeling, but there is the Definite moment when she Falls asleep, its like a switch and her energy suddenly goes yin, sort of like a vacuum. It was such a surprise when I first felt it, as the feeling is so strong and I had never felt it from Adults I have slept next to. Its so deep and peaceful. I was wondering about peoples reflections and Ideas about this.. Do baby's (and possibly Taoist masters) sleep in a different way to the rest of us? Her sleep seems to be much more vitalising or refreshing than an Adult's. As we get conditioned do we loose the ability to go so Yin at night? Please comment... Seth

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Welcome Dude, its a fun and informative site. Seth

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Man your Street Cred just went up!! That sounds just too good. I am putting that up near the top in my thing to do before death list. Wow! Thanks again. Seth