Lala Nila

I'm looking forward to the interpretation!

try letting go, stop chasing results and lusting for outcome. Don't be excited or disappointed, those are just illusionary emotional responses from the mind.

you have to do it without attachment to outcome, ego, fear, desire. Has to be done without resistance and illusion, with pure all encompassing love and surrender. I'm still working on ironing out all the details. Though Cobie's quote is a good hint Gold to Cobie for that quote

well, arguably these types of rites go back quite further than Gardiner and Crowley, but in terms of making them more accessible to "modern" crowds and western occult enthusiasts, I totally agree. However, scared sexuality and fertility rites go back thousands of years tbh. But that is a dope story about the inscribed lighter. Crowley basically transformed an internal structure based on concepts in hermeticism golden dawn, kaballah (sexual polarities, lunar and solar energies), etc and made them literal. I'm not quite certain about the entire history of how it went down our his lexicon of influences. But Crowley's developments and reinterpretations certainly paved the way for contemporary esoteric practice and influenced a lot of westerners, especially chaos magicians and the use of orgasm to fuel workings, build internal power, etc. yeah maybe, I guess depending on the rite. Wax is more practical however. You don't even need a mold, it's better to carve it as you like it, or as you intend for it to be...hahahaha. yes, I see the Stele of Revealing there! Uncle is such a pure soul! Wow, I see why you're drawn to him. What is that thing he is twirling around? Is there a lot of drinking going on at these men's business functions? that tends to bring out bad behaviour. I was reading about some of these "mobs" last night after reading your thread. I don't know anything about Aboriginal cultural practices, It's pretty incredible how these aboriginal tribes have the longest continuous traditions on the planet. terrible shame what happened during colonization., same in the country where I live. The indigenous have suffered immensely. Though some of the tribes where I at allow some europeans into powwow festivities, over all it's pretty closed, unless you know a tribe member personally. Though within the past 20 years or so many Nations have begun to organize and are heavily involved with the federal government and resource development.

yeah! Yes, I read through your recent "Men's Business" thread, sounds interesting. Are you initiated into this,? many ritual practices are closed to outsiders, how do they keep the hippies away from the more scared elements? Fire keeper is an extremely important role. You appear to be a good mediator and jack of all trades, judging by the goings on of the festival! Well, traditionally The Great Rite would include High Priest and Priestess joining in ummm....coitus lol. Lot's of those type shenanigans with various covens tbh, helps build group power. But I suppose lowering the athame into the chalice will suffice (especially if you don't know the other people too well, or not, whatever floats your boat). Using a rubber/soap ding-dong attached to a string somehow lessens the seriousness of whatever is going on, it would be hard for me to keep a straight face in that setting. No need to buy off etsy- I make my own ritual tools, more personal that way and consecration is always far more fun...

That’s a great question, Lairg, you’re absolutely correct. I do have the authority to request whatever I need. I suppose that I often get caught up in the excitement of ritual: the sense of ceremony, the pomp and circumstance, and the way it used to help set the tone for intention. Old habits die hard. I was going to respond with this long drawn out response defending it. But, ultimately you're right. I don't need the pomp and circumstance. The "tools" already reside within me. I've already claimed my authority. thank you

Yes please! I'm game to learn

Mhm, reading through this thread and the most recent quotes, I'm thinking about running this rite, for balance and experience. I feel you- my lunar workings are a little heavy, about to start some lunar work this evening actually! I'm not too well acquainted with my chart lol, although I have a Joyti chart that I refer back to quite a bit. Yes, I really love many elements of Wicca, I loosely follow some of the rites and rituals. Group work can be a lot of fun and prosperous, but it comes with its own issues as well lol. High Priest, eh? fancy. I love this result. I often times tend to focus on the negative, though I do try to practice gratitude in a daily ritual for me, whether it's just giving thanks to the beautiful sky, La Luna, the foliage, etc. Yes, I was reading about the differences earlier today. I've done some Nuit/Nut ritual work, using Thelemic themes as a starting point. I'm usually pretty heterodox in my ritual design and execution lol, always putting my own spin on things and making the work more personal and from my perspective! "Well, wings help us fly " <<Soaring>> Above, the gemmèd azure is The naked splendour of Nuit; She bends in ecstasy to kiss The secret ardours of Hadit. The wingèd globe, the starry blue Are mine, o Ankh-f-n-Khonsu. I am the Lord of Thebes, and I The inspired forth-speaker of Mentu; For me unveils the veiled sky, The self-slain Ankh-f-n-Khonsu Whose words are truth. I invoke, I greet Thy presence, o Ra-Hoor-Khuit! Unity uttermost showed! I adore the might of Thy breath, Supreme and terrible God, Who makest the gods and death To tremble before Thee: — I, I adore thee! Appear on the throne of Ra! Open the ways of the Khu! Lighten the ways of the Ka! The ways of the Khabs run through To stir me or still me! Aum! let it kill me! * The Light is mine; its rays consume Me: I have made a secret door Into the House of Ra and Tum, Of Khephra, and of Ahathoor. I am thy Theban, o Mentu, The prophet Ankh-f-n-Khonsu! By Bes-na-Maut my breast I beat: By wise Ta-nech I weave my spell. Show thy star-splendour, O Nuit! Bid me within thine House to dwell, O winged snake of light, Hadith! Abide with me, Ra-Hoor-Khuit! I'm really digging this quote, thank you for posting it. I have some research to do..Thank you!

I'm drawn to what the founders were doing, the ones who held the solar current before it filtered into human ritual...But I also love seeing how that current took form through the people of Egypt and even contemporary interpretations the rituals, rites and the current itself. The evolution of it all is also fascinating to me. Sounds like your friend channelled The Great Mother, Mahadevi or Adi-Shakti in that moment! What a wonderful vision to be privy to!

no actually- I never practiced the Stele of Revealing, my Solar "adorations" and ritual revolves around different means and methods! I use an adapted version of I AM's Solar Grounding technique that I read about...jeez, probably 15 years ago. I like direct-connect to planetary, solar or lunar energies/logos. However, most of my work, even now is Lunar (and Earth/Gaia) focused simply because I tend to work more directly with Goddess or feminine energies/archetypes, I'm probably a little due for more in-depth solar connectivity. Now that I'm typing all this I'm realizing that maybe my previous approach was a little biased. What benefits did daily practice of the Stele of Revealing give to you? How does the use of the Stele differ from Egyptian to Thelema? I think pronunciation is not as important as intent to be honest. I know I sound a little off when reciting anything from the PGM for example. Though I really do try and research pronunciation the best I can. I know it's a little different with ancient Egyptian though..lot's of creative license with that lol. I believe trance work and allowing glossolalia to flow through you helps connect to language. Oh yeah, I tend to wing it quite a bit hahaha.

amen to that!

Yes please! I'll create a dedicated thread this evening. Thank you Apech

Seems like a fair bit of creative license! I'm especially interested in how Egyptians worked with symbology, ritual and cosmology in practice. Not just the history, but the lived spiritual experience/dimension. I'd been interested in which sources texts gave you the clearest insight, most impactful, etc.

Thanks Apech! My only knowledge of this quote is from The Temple of Set or Seithian. Michael Aquino or Don Webb. It was defined as "I have come into being, and by the process of My Coming into Being, the process of Coming into Being is established." What are your reading recommendations if I want to get my toes wet in Egyptian magic?