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I belive so, yes. Hmmm… I do belive there is such a thing as cosmic law. And that law is love. It is a way to combat entropy, in a way. When it comes to the societal nature of it, there is more variance, obviously. Divinely inspired? Perhaps. I think they are of tremendous importance, and that a lot of suffering in the modern day is due to the collapse of these structures. So is it conceivable that some higher power tries to restore balance to his creation? I don’t know. And yeah, then there are also the «societal laws» that has been twisted to benefit the group that twisted them. Disturbing. but yes, I agree for the most part. I am thinking about making a thread in the Hindu textual subforum on BG 3.16-29, there about, as I did like it a lot.

Mhm, I listened to it on audio tho, and the way it was written (jumping back and forth) as well reading it in a foreign language made it hard to follow. So I mainly relied on the movies. But loads of interesting aspects, like Paul’s education, his psychic ability, the question of how to rule/use his gifts… the blue eyed fremen in the desert, spice and some jihad to top it off… A thread on movies inspired by… what to call it, «a certain order», I guess and their esoteric meanings could be fascinating. Lord of the rings fascinates me as well. I have read the books, but again, focusing mainly on the movies… what a piece of art. Can’t believe it is possible. Tempted to believe it is either inspired by higher powers, or is made by a large group of people. Could probably be said that every form of creative action, anything requiring spirit, is inspired by something else, but but. Plato’s ring of Gyges was likley a huge inspiration. A ring that turns the user invisible, asking the question of how good of a person are you when no one’s watching. The warrior king is one of the few strong enough, and therefore… worthy of the crown. And like another warrior king, Arjuna, he restores order. Brought balance to the force, so to speak Like Christ in Easter (according to the catholic tradition) he enters the realm of the dead for three days, bringing them back to life. He was quite fascinated by Germanic myth and folklore as well, I think is fairly evident. Probably drew from a lot of other traditions. Also he was, very understandably, shaken by what he saw happening to the natural environment due to industrialization as well as ww1. To get a little creepy we could go talk about orcs and the all seing eye and stuff, but prob better leave it be. Fascinating stuff, stories.

Bg. 3.22 न मे पार्थास्ति कर्तव्यं त्रिषु लोकेषु किञ्चन । नानवाप्त‍मवाप्त‍व्यं वर्त एव च कर्मणि ॥ २२ ॥ na me pārthāsti kartavyaṁ triṣu lokeṣu kiñcana nānavāptam avāptavyaṁ varta eva ca karmaṇi Synonyms na — not; me — Mine; pārtha — O son of Pṛthā; asti — there is; kartavyam — prescribed duty; triṣu — in the three; lokeṣu — planetary systems; kiñcana — any; na — nothing; anavāptam — wanted; avāptavyam — to be gained; varte — I am engaged; eva — certainly; ca — also; karmaṇi — in prescribed duty. Translation O son of Pṛthā, there is no work prescribed for Me within all the three planetary systems. Nor am I in want of anything, nor have I a need to obtain anything – and yet I am engaged in prescribed duties. Purport The Supreme Personality of Godhead is described in the Vedic literatures as follows: tam īśvarāṇāṁ paramaṁ maheśvaraṁ taṁ devatānāṁ paramaṁ ca daivatam patiṁ patīnāṁ paramaṁ parastād vidāma devaṁ bhuvaneśam īḍyam na tasya kāryaṁ karaṇaṁ ca vidyate na tat-samaś cābhyadhikaś ca dṛśyate parāsya śaktir vividhaiva śrūyate svābhāvikī jñāna-bala-kriyā ca “The Supreme Lord is the controller of all other controllers, and He is the greatest of all the diverse planetary leaders. Everyone is under His control. All entities are delegated with particular power only by the Supreme Lord; they are not supreme themselves. He is also worshipable by all demigods and is the supreme director of all directors. Therefore, He is transcendental to all kinds of material leaders and controllers and is worshipable by all. There is no one greater than Him, and He is the supreme cause of all causes. “He does not possess a bodily form like that of an ordinary living entity. There is no difference between His body and His soul. He is absolute. All His senses are transcendental. Any one of His senses can perform the action of any other sense. Therefore, no one is greater than Him or equal to Him. His potencies are multifarious, and thus His deeds are automatically performed as a natural sequence.” (Śvetāśvatara Upaniṣad 6.7–8) Since everything is in full opulence in the Personality of Godhead and is existing in full truth, there is no duty for the Supreme Personality of Godhead to perform. One who must receive the results of work has some designated duty, but one who has nothing to achieve within the three planetary systems certainly has no duty. And yet Lord Kṛṣṇa is engaged on the Battlefield of Kurukṣetra as the leader of the kṣatriyasbecause the kṣatriyas are duty-bound to give protection to the distressed. Although He is above all the regulations of the revealed scriptures, He does not do anything that violates the revealed scriptures. Bg. 3.23 यदि ह्यहं न वर्तेयं जातु कर्मण्यतन्द्रितः । मम वर्त्मानुवर्तन्ते मनुष्याः पार्थ सर्वशः ॥ २३ ॥ yadi hy ahaṁ na varteyaṁ jātu karmaṇy atandritaḥ mama vartmānuvartante manuṣyāḥ pārtha sarvaśaḥ Synonyms yadi — if; hi — certainly; aham — I; na — do not; varteyam — thus engage; jātu — ever; karmaṇi — in the performance of prescribed duties; atandritaḥ — with great care; mama — My; vartma — path; anuvartante — would follow; manuṣyāḥ— all men; pārtha — O son of Pṛthā; sarvaśaḥ — in all respects. Translation For if I ever failed to engage in carefully performing prescribed duties, O Pārtha, certainly all men would follow My path. Purport In order to keep the balance of social tranquillity for progress in spiritual life, there are traditional family usages meant for every civilized man. Although such rules and regulations are for the conditioned souls and not Lord Kṛṣṇa, because He descended to establish the principles of religion He followed the prescribed rules. Otherwise, common men would follow in His footsteps, because He is the greatest authority. From the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam it is understood that Lord Kṛṣṇa was performing all the religious duties at home and out of home, as required of a householder. My question to you is, why would God (in the highest sense of that word), who is complete, feel the want to restore dharma?

Sorry to bother you mods, but I am undergoing training know, so a place to take notes, journal and keep track of practice would be of great benefit, I feel.

https://youtu.be/jBCoyeSItVs?si=zEFDXXglayxEny_e Maybe like this?

Gnosis with a sense of humor, what more can one ask for. I feel like many of these tales (like Star Wars, lord of the rings, dune, Harry Potter and a bunch more) have a lot of depth, tho.

So the younglings didn’t have to die? PM

Mhm, I intended to, but that was before I figured out how to link personal pictures to this website. Also, I figured it was no harm putting it out here, but sure, I am happy about doing it on pm. But ofc, only look into to it to the degree you feel like. I am happy that the chart has helped me find some confidence and direction tho, I feel strongly that my calling, so to speak, lies in teaching. The intro to the deep psych analysis was quite good tho, so let’s share it with all our fellow bums:

What did you expect?

I quite like this perspective: I know it is a little rude to dump a 25 min video here, but I belive it is very relevant to the discourse, and Id assume people here tend to enjoy the Watts.

So, I am journaling at this moment, and came to think about the concept of Euidaimonia. Lets go. For Aristotle, the good life is about striving to realise one's own potential in the best possible way. This is the purpose of all life. A seed can realise its potential and become a flower. For humans, it is about realising their potential as rational and thinking beings. Think of a flower. If you wather it, give it enough light, maybe feed it a little, then it will grow and bloom... Human beings can flourish like plants too Nigel Warburton Eudoaimonia is somewhat tricky to translate. Literally, it means “to live well,” but “human flourishing,” as in the quote above, captures its essence better. Don’t confuse this with being happy; it refers to a state of being. A state you achieve by acting virtuously. It should be noted that they did not use the word in the same way we use virtue today: ‘The Greek word for virtue is “ARETE”. For the Greeks, the notion of virtue is tied to the notion of function (ERGON). The virtues of something are what enable it to perform excellently its proper function. Virtue (or arete) extends beyond the realm of morality; it concerns the excellent performance of any function.’ Cognates (to arete) includes sanskrit Rta (from where we get dharma), avestan areta (order) and middle high german art (innate featureI). There seems sot be some kind of red thread here, namley cosmic law. If you live in accordancec to it, the gods will reward you. This would be (1) individual: As well as (2) universal (or close to it, anyway, as we share in being human): And how do we achieve this? Thats how God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. PS: This is not very in depth (very shallow acctually), and I would prefer to post this in the personal practice thing you got going on (but I dont have one). Anyhow, I hope it is of interrest to some of you, and feedback is always welcome.

Looking at the language used in the OPs link, as well as our vocabulary, it is kind of curious how the concept of light, shining, spark, radiating, halo, fire and related terms keeps coming up with when we are talking about the highest realizations: enlightenment. Why is that, do you think?

it is not what goes in (the mouth), but what comes out that defiles you. Matthew 15:11. (I think what comes in is important to, but that’s beside the point) So, sometimes I wished I had a dictionary when talking to wise men. I said those words to a teacher of mine. Later that day, I opened up google. I don’t even recall what I searched for, but at the top, there was a file full of different mystics (Meister Eckhart being the only I recall from the top for my head) with quotes along the lines of «everything is sound». Personally, I engange in kirtan, the Hare Krishna mantra and the like, but I am sure there is no lack of powerful frequencies out there. One devotee told me how it was very clear that, when he started chanting the holy name, he got faced with a mirror of himself: that is, the external world sort of became a reflection or him. «Very interesting you mentioned that,» I said, «because I to felt very clearly that I was faced with aspects of myself that was not very beautiful». He smiled. The heart has to be cleansed first, and I guess it is a tiny bit softer now, as the world appears far more beautiful. Every individual is just a reflection of you Reincarnated by Kendrick Lamar Now a days they are teaching me the correct pronunciation of Sanskrit. What a wonderful tongue. One thing that has kind of confused me growing up, is how we are able to communicate trough these computers and phones and radios of ours. I’ve always known that it is some kind of waves. Sounds kinda like magic to me. At times I’ve just pushed the whole issue to the side tho, as I would assume that the people working on these devices knows what’s going on. My family of origin as well as the extended one, is full of very intelligent and technical minded people with relevant education. So I asked them. «Waves» they said. «Frequencies?» «Yes» So yeah, seems like it kinda runs on vibes. Sort of how the shepherded in Coelhos alchemist talks about being in tune with the sheep. Or Robert Sheldrakes concept of morphic ressonance. According to qauntum physics, it is all just waves, until an observer appear, is it not? That’s kinda what eyes do as well, no, reflect light? So, to end this little brain fart, I would, in addition to hearing your thoughts on the matter, offer a piece of advice: 1. be mindful of what music you listen to I am not Muslim. Or maybe I am, as I accept that God (and all) is one. And their prayer calls are kind of beautiful. Also sheds some light on why certain kind of music is banned in some schools of Islamic thoughts. اللّهُ مَعَكَ

So, does initiation has to be people dressed in black robes and sacrificing babies, or can it also be like… you just sort of in?

Enlightened music videos, anyone? Near a tree by a riverThere's a hole in the groundWhere an old man of AranGoes around and aroundAnd his mind is a beaconIn the veil of the nightFor a strange kind of fashionThere's a wrong and a right Fireflies, a million little pieces Feeds the dying light, and brings me back to life In your eyes, I see something to believe in Your hands are like a flame, your palms' the sweetest pain Let the darkness lead us into the light Let our dreams get lost, feel the temperature rise Baby, tell me one more beautiful lie One touch and I ignite Like a starship speeding into the night You and I get lost in the infinite lights Baby, tell me one more beautiful lie One touch and I ignite One touch and I ignite One touch and I ignite Forgive me, my friends, but the lyrics combined with the visuals seems to me to have been made by people who has seen the sun.