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Thank you Lairg For some reason i feel my middle dantien stronger than my lower dantien.

Hi everyone, I wanted to share something that happened very naturally, and I’d appreciate hearing from those who have experienced something similar through their own cultivation. After a simple meditation where I just rested my attention in the heart — not visualizing, not guiding the breath — I fell asleep. In the middle of the night, I woke up because I felt a deep warmth radiating from my heart area. It was steady, peaceful, and so warm it felt like a small heater inside my chest. The feeling was filled with quiet love — not emotional or romantic, but very still and complete. It wasn’t something I tried to create. It just appeared by itself. I’m curious how other practitioners understand or relate to this kind of spontaneous heart warmth or energy — especially those who cultivate through stillness (neigong, qigong, or inner alchemy). I’m not looking for theories or chakra explanations — more interested in direct, lived experience: Have you felt warmth or radiance in the heart appear by itself? How did you relate to it in your practice? Did it deepen or change with time? Thank you for reading 🙏

Hey everyone I’m really curious if anyone here has had personal experience improving their nearsightedness (myopia) through Qigong, acupressure, or acupuncture. I’ve come across some reports about eye Qigong or relaxing and quiescent Qigong practices that supposedly helped people strengthen their vision or even reduce their need for glasses. but it’s hard to tell what’s real and what’s just anecdotal. I’d love to hear from anyone who has: - Noticed actual changes in their diopters or visual clarity - Found specific exercises or routines that made a difference - Used breathing, relaxation, or visualization as part of their eye practice - Managed to reduce or stop wearing glasses altogether - Even small improvements or just stabilization stories are super welcome If you have any book or video recommendations on Qigong for the eyes or acupressure for vision, I’d be really grateful too! Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences

In my practice I’ve started noticing that “going inward” is not just one single experience, but seems to unfold in different stages and qualities. At first, it feels like embodying Jing – through for example grounding through the body Then comes Qi regulation and gathering – through for example movements, orbit, guiding breath and energy. Deeper still, Shen returns and collects – through for example inner smile exercise the heart quiets. And finally, in Nei Dan, there is the stage often described as the Golden Elixir – the inner union of Jing, Qi, and Shen.- I’ve only heard about this last stage and can only intuitively sense what it might be like: that the “inside” is no longer just inwardness, but the oneness of all treasures. I’m curious: How do you personally distinguish these different inner stages in your own practice? What helps you move from a scattered inside (like fantasies or restless Shen) to a collected inside where transformation really happens? And if you’ve gone further: how do you relate to this Golden Elixir stage in your own tradition? I’d love to hear from others walking the Neigong path about how you encounter and navigate these thresholds.

yes you are right, i am a "chunyi lin person " thank you for that discussion

thank you for givign me those tips how do i work with eye channels using internal energy?

thank you, your comment makes my heart skip a beat because i just start to make some progress with visualizing. it is such a challenging thing for me therefore i do feel motivated and reassured by your comment

Nice question I will answer from perspective as a Spring Forest Qigong-Student. When I think about what I’ve learned from Spring Forest Qigong from Master Chunyi Lin, I remember one key principle: “Where your intention goes, your energy flows.” it is about the fact , that our intention guides our energy, which either brings healing or creates Blockages I think we visualize all the time — just often unconsciously like When we daydream, when we imagine things we don’t want, when we replay old stories — all of that is visualization too, but more fear-based - which in return creates blockages. Does all this make sense?. So why not use this same ability to create something loving and uplifting, something that supports our healing and balance? Visualization, for me, also helps build concentration energy. It strengthens my ability to stay centered in meditation and to calm the monkey mind. It’s like training my energy to flow in one clear direction. It also makes subtle energy easier to feel. For example, when I practice the Small Universe, visualizing how the energy moves helps me sense it more clearly. It becomes more real, more tangible. At least for me, I notice how I can easily visualize things I desire in the outer world, but it takes more practice to visualize inner states— like peace, calm, contentment, happiness, or joy. So, for me, visualization is also a practice of tuning into those frequencies— setting the intention that *this* is the space I want to live from. And the more I practice it, the more natural it becomes. Right now, I don’t see anything negative about visualization. As Master Lin would gently add: Visualization is wonderful if it comes from an open heart and loving intention If it’s forced, fearful, or too mental, it can block the flow — because then the energy stays in the head instead of flowing through the heart. Since visualization is part of my path, I can say I’m *pro visualization* — because it helps me focus, feel, and connect more deeply with the living energy of the universe.

Lately I’ve been reflecting on how not all forms of “turning inward” feel the same. Sometimes it’s grounding and transformative – like in Qigong, when Shen, Qi, and Jing begin to gather in the body. Sometimes it’s soothing but physical – like with using Gua Sha, where the body opens but the mind is not deeply involved. Sometimes it’s inward but scattered – like in daydreams or fantasies, where the energy rises but doesn’t settle, leaving me less centered. This makes me wonder: Are there different “inner spaces” or “inner qualities” we enter, depending on the practice or state of mind? From a Daoist and Qigong perspective, it seems that we can distinguish stages of going inward: Through the body (stability, Jing foundation) Through energy flow (Qi movement and collection) Through spirit (Shen calming and returning) Through unity (Jing, Qi, Shen returning to one) I’m curious: Have you also noticed this difference between a collected inner state versus a scattered inner state? Which practices help you personally to anchor Shen in the body, so that “turning inward” feels truly nourishing rather than dispersing? I’d love to hear how others who walk the Daoist or Qigong path have encountered this theme.

that is for me the aspect in me which feels seperation from everything around me. in good meditations i do experience myself as connected with everything around me and in those moments i feel like i am connected to my true self. when i am in my small self, i often feel restless and i always feel like i am driven by fear. but when i am feeling myself as the soul, the situations in which i just felt fear, dont scare me and there is trust and surrender did that clarify? i dont knwo right know how to clarify best

oh my life in a nutshell surrender, surrender, surrender . this is why i love qigong, it naturally makes me more receptive for guidance and it teaches me to pause and go within. everything important is within, and it gives everything around me a purpose.

Absolutely—at the core, our soul always aligns with what God desires. Yet, I don’t always perceive this clearly. Often, what God wants feels, to my smaller self(which is an illusion), like it opposes my own wants. For instance, God calls me to be non-judgmental, while the small self instinctively wants to judge everything around me. Thankfully, God’s infinite patience allows Him to guide me repeatedly, teaching me to release the urge to judge and embrace His wisdom instead.

It’s really fascinating to see this thread and to recognize a shared experience! I also have Mars opposite Saturn in my chart, and for me, it’s one of the central tensions—learning patience, discipline, and how to channel energy effectively. I’ve come to see it as a practice in trusting that God’s plan can be wiser than my own. I developed a daily exercise around this: I write down what I want to control or force, and then reflect on whether this is more important to me than receiving grace. Mars, after all, is about action—and when action comes purely from the ego or self-will, it can block grace. Writing it down helps me shift from self-will to conscious alignment, and it’s surprisingly liberating. It’s also exciting to see someone else exploring their chart with AI! I’ve used AI tools not just for interpretation but for creating goals and concrete actions that turn natal chart challenges into opportunities for growth. In a way, the chart reflects the ego with its limits, and by consciously working with it, we can nurture the boundless, timeless soul, which has no natal chart and is already whole and perfect. Connecting with my own soul while practicing compassion for my ego’s particular “make-up” has been transformative. It turns natal chart tension—like Mars opposite Saturn—from frustration into a guiding tool for spiritual and practical growth. It’s beautiful to see how astrology can be both practical and deeply spiritual at the same time.

Recently, something shifted within me. I’ve begun to live with the following belief: my life flows through the Dao, the Source. My existence belongs therefore to this infinite presence. I trust the wisdom of the Dao more than what my eyes can perceive, for the Dao sees farther than I ever could. Everything that unfolds is part of a greater plan, one beyond my understanding. The Dao, the Source, is my teacher. The purpose of my life is to stay connected to this presence. Even pain and suffering can serve as gateways to it. From this sacred space, miracles and possibilities emerge—things my mind alone could never imagine. Since leaning into this trust, I’ve been surprised by a new kind of quietness. It’s so calm inside that I can feel my heartbeat clearly, even when I’m not meditating in a formal way. Before, I could only sense it when I was sitting very still in formal practice. It also feels like the noise of the outside world doesn’t shake me as much as before. I wonder: Has anyone else felt this kind of natural quietness just from trust or surrender? Could this be something like what Daoists mean by aligning with the Dao, or “wu wei”? I’d love to hear your thoughts or experiences.

oh yes i know abit of te bhagavad gita and i can relate to this beautiful methapour. Surya do you know the Art of living by Gurudev Sri Sri Ravi Shankar? He is offering acourse for children which helps them connect with their intuition- turns out at the end most of them experience supernatural abilites.. he is also offering courses for adults. maybe one day i like into his courses. he is also using the bhagavdad gita. therefore i thought you might know him

wow your wohle life? amazing i strive to be like that one day

i wouldnt worry about doing something wrong here.(have to tell myself this too ) source has unconditional love for all its creations. qi is a force which is available to anyone, no matter what they do. and yes source uses every interest we have for greater good. oneness, oneness, oneness praising the one sounds like that

At the core of everything I do, lies the worship of the ultimate, a profound connection to God that fills my mind entirely. While I aspire to reach this state of unwavering focus, I recognize it will take time. My thoughts are often clouded by judgments, which seem to arise endlessly. However, practicing Qigong has been transformative for me. It brings a deep sense of calm and centeredness, allowing me to release these judgments and detach from their grip. Qigong has shown me how these judgments stem from the ego, creating unnecessary suffering. It doesn’t diminish the importance of clarity and discernment, but rather highlights how ego-driven judgments can obstruct inner peace. This practice continues to guide me toward a more harmonious state of being. i am truly happy for all the greta comments here, happy to be around like minded people

At the core of everything I do, lies the worship of the ultimate, a profound connection to God that fills my mind entirely. While I aspire to reach this state of unwavering focus, I recognize it will take time. My thoughts are often clouded by judgments, which seem to arise endlessly. However, practicing Qigong has been transformative for me. It brings a deep sense of calm and centeredness, allowing me to release these judgments and detach from their grip. Qigong has shown me how these judgments stem from the ego, creating unnecessary suffering. It doesn’t diminish the importance of clarity and discernment, but rather highlights how ego-driven judgments can obstruct inner peace. This practice continues to guide me toward a more harmonious state of being.

Do you reflect on the state of your health as part of your Qigong journey, rather than focusing only on the exercises? I don’t mean chasing after specific results, but more in the sense that when our body is in balance and health, we may be more able to receive the full benefits of the practice. One could argue that health does make a difference: Flow of Qi: When the body is not dominated by pain, exhaustion, or blockages, qi can circulate more freely, and the subtle shifts in practice become clearer. Daoist writings often point out that cultivated energy flows best in states of calm and emptiness. Clarity of attention: With fewer distractions from symptoms, awareness can sink deeper into stillness and inner sensing. Resonance with the practice: A balanced body can take in movements, breath work, and meditation more easily, creating a finer resonance between exercise and inner state. At the same time, I wonder how seriously we take illness as a messenger – whether we pay attention to what it is trying to show us, or tend to avoid looking at it. For me, this has always been a paradox. I value a healthy body, but I don’t want to become overly fixated on measuring or controlling it. On the other hand, I’ve also come to see illness not simply as an obstacle, but as a messenger pointing to deeper imbalance. For most of my life, I lived with depression, and only by seeing it as a messenger did I find my way to qigong. Through practice, the depression gradually lifted – so in a sense, my illness both limited me and guided me toward healing. From a daoist perspective, perhaps health and illness are not opposites but part of the same cycle – each carrying the seed of transformation. That’s why I’m curious: how do you approach this in your own practice? How do you focus on maintaining health and how do you trust the practice itself to bring you into balance over time? I know that, in general, the advice is something like: “Pay attention to the signals your body gives you—they are your teachers. But don’t let your current health limit or distract you. Qigong heals from within, no matter where you start.” Still, I’m much more curious about how people personally experience this. How do you actually notice or respond to your body’s messages in daily life? Do you treat illness as a teacher, or do you tend to avoid looking at it? Hearing real experiences helps me connect with this advice in a way that simply reading it never could.

thank you. i do like experience invitations like that. i feel a bit more grounded and calm, because the energy flows downwards.

Are you throwing wisdom Nuggets in a cryptic way at me? You wouldnt ,right? Ok joke aside. It sounds cryptic because i a dont know most of the Terminology you use. Could you explain those for me? Sounds like you do energy healing and sensed the flow of energy in your friend. You seem open to sense energy around you If you do energy healing ,can i ask some questions? And thank yu for sharing this. It shows how emotions +trauma are linked.

actually when i her that master speak of green, i can just agree with what he says. everything he says about the colour green, is a pendant for the power of the liver organ

In my qigong practice i learned that colours do have a frequency which relates to organs and help it heal. like green relates to the liver. means colours do have healing power. also i heard that since every year has a certain energy quality wearing certain colours and decorating your home can help. right now i focus on the healing power on colours. focusing within is for me more important than picking the right colours for feng shui . but that is how i do it. might be different for others

yes i understand. living in that pause is the place to receive grace and be in flow learning to let go of constant control, manipulating myself and others, drowning in selfpity and fear. all that falls away with learning to receive grace