Elysium

Seems like this is a condition that can be reversed or mitigated at the very least. Also seems like an impossible task however, after all one lives their lives like this.

As far as I know, there is only one angel that gatekeeps heaven and his name is Rıdwan. Password phrase? I don't think that would be neccesary at all. I do not know of anyone that went to heaven and came back save for Prophet Muhammad. Prophet Idris ascended but he never came back so there is that. I have already explained what I think of this above, to expand on it, only Salafis think that arsh is a place of dwelling. Most sufis think its created as a symbol of Allahs power.

Ever read Dantes Paradiso/Inferno? The sevenfold concept is pretty similar. While there are other opinions, most agree there are seven layers to heaven/paradise/jannah. After one dies, one goes through judgement, and gets to one of layers in Jannah or Jahannam. This is why you would essentially only need to do your duties Allah gave you, and be a good person overall. You should be getting to Jannah sooner or later. In a way there is no need trying to "transcend" in Islam because death will take you there no matter what. To expand a little however: There are three types of worshippers. First ones worship him because they are scared of the eternal punishment. The second type worhips because they want to get to heaven. Allah loves the third ones most however, because, to quote a famous poet: What they call the heaven is Just a few mansions and a few houris Give them to the ones who want those I need you, only you. The third ones are devoted to him because they love him and can't think of else. These are called "friends of Allah/Awliya". If we are looking for transcendence or siddhi, which would be called Karamah, its better to start looking here. But I am diverting. Last but not least, the seven heavens are said to be just a ring that is in a desert, compared to the desert that would be "Arsh". Arsh means throne. Nobody really knows what Arsh truly is, and in Islam I am sure nobody aside from perhaps the last prophet saw it in Miraj. Miraj is a famous event, Muhammad ascends to heavens one by one, and communicates with Allah directly at the end. In fact, archangel Jibril/Gabriel who travels with Muhammad can not cross a certain point, saying that his wings would burn if he would try to breach this point. My interpretations: Jibril means messenger, which is an allegory to mind. Muhammad has to perhaps let go or transcend his mind in order to go this further/deeper/subtler place/plane of existence. For Arsh, which I said it meant throne, I believe its the concept of Allahs dominance over everything. So it goes on like this: Allah exists, none else (its kind of a nothingness here)---> The concept of his supremeness is created---> Everything else is created. For a similar concept you may read about Jewish tree of life, especially the negative veils of existence. TL;DR: Penguins are taking over the world.

I wrote a somewhat two hour long essay here that included concept of awliya/sainthood in Islam, layers of heaven, Wahdat-al Wujood, how important your intent is, list goes on, and then it said "show new reply" and then when I clicked that my response vanished. 😭 So yeah, not doing that again, but will still link a system that I really like and would have used myself if I was still a muslim. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lataif-e-Sitta Zikr is used to work on these Lataif. For more info: http://maktabah.org/blog/?p=227 Without a shaykhs guidance, its gonna be either ineffective or downright hazardous just like some of the eastern practices. And for the sainthood I was refering to: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wali

Are you refering to the daily prayer or is it to prayer to Muhammad when you say Salat?

Now I am feeling like I hijacked the thread, just waiting that PPD approval so I can talk about these all day every day, lol. I am only doing the first standing that is shown in "The Way of Energy" and I will keep doing that for a while. That and simply meditation for building concentration.

Some days I can't help myself but read on this forum for hours, haven't felt this kind of childlike wonder since my teenage years. I can see how it can turn into a nasty block on the road, though. Jumping from one read to another, it could make me very detached, and also jumpy for a lack of better word, so I promised myself to just stick with one practice only. Otherwise I won't even qualify as a jack of all trades, I think.

I will take your word for it then. No hard feelings I hope

Offer some perspective instead of snide remarks in umbrealla of hand sign emojis perhaps then?

May I get a PPD section?

Seems like we found a motivation for therapy/psychologist already . I was just looking for something to read and now I have that. Much appreciated.

This is very interesting indeed, may I get a short source so I don't have to walk through sands of time (being endless writings of Jung)?

Hi all, though I feel like a psychologist would be better to ask this, going to ask here anyways. In december of last year, while I was reading Corpus Hermeticum, in all of a sudden I felt that all resentment and hatred I felt towards anything and mostly myself just leaking out of me. Thats how I could define this moment. Something leaking out of me, my heart & chest feeling a kind of healing pain, and as if a truck got lifted off my shoulders after all said and done. I was only doing a half-assed attempt in soul mirrors by Initiation Into Hermetics, also the void of mind excersise from same book at the time. I haven't put any meaningful effort into it. Back to three days ago, I have noticed my fear of heights which stemmed from me jumping from the second floor on a single leg like a dumbass, is highly diminshed if not gone. Currently I have only added 5 mins of Zhan Zhuang into what I practice so I am pretty sure it isn't related. The question is, since I am not doing much, why did this two persistent treats that I have had more than a decade just vanished overnight? Any ideas?

I have noticed this too, in the short time I have been here. People show lots of restaint in general and are willing to listen what the other side says.

The way I see it, one wrong step, and I may find myself in a problem that I can't untangle. Been reading about dangers of the practice, and it sure seems like you don't know it until its too late. Sure not all mistakes are fatal. The point still stands however, so when I see big claims, I am skeptical of it. Yeah we discussed therapy and I agree with you and other members pointed out that this doesn't require it. But its on back of my mind now and I think it will be a great invesment, alongside finding a proper teacher. Just need this college to get over with. Until then I suppose I will enjoy this blessing, why not right?

I was suspecting it was related to what I was reading. How bizarre, it sounds like a shortcut, does it not? Maybe I should broaden my world view. I certainly did not think this was possible. I would say I am somewhat happy without any external influence in my life, ever after these events. You are right, answer is a hard no. Its a fair question. There are many things I should go see a therapist for but I suppose these two wouldn't be main topics anymore. Okay I know I just said that I shouldn't be so narrow minded but me? Enlightened? If this is enlightenment I suppose everyone already is.

Heard it grounds your jing though!

Sure is, between this guy, the one that wants to tank a nuke and the one that called himself master and then called everyone demonic. I won't drag the thread no more but I am glad OP is gone.

Gotta say, as someone who can't find a teacher right at the moment, I am kinda worried. Last thing I want to end up is like OP. Seems like all that energy messed with his head. Or he was messed up to begin with. Is this the fate of all solo practitioners?

Joking aside, so, you posted something like 6 threads talking about this über technique that blew every tested method ever invented, claiming that it was safe (aside from that demons part) because your friend remote viewed it. Now its absolutely dangerous because your friend remote viewed it again? You certainly didn't care when people repeatedly told you so. So do you not see the problem here?

You changed your mind in a week? This has to be the best anime redemtion arc.

Hi all, greetings from Turkey. I want to practice for my health, piece of mind, and strength. There is unfortunately, no place that offers practice in my city whatsoever. So I will be doing it on my own but I am a bit clueless on the subject. Where do I start without falling into a rabbit hole? Thank you in advance guys.

How could you do this, master? 😔

Kind folk, thank you for all replies and greetings. I have been looking around the forum for the last couple of days, there is SO much to unpack, wow. Zhan Zhuang seemed good. I picked up "The Way of Energy". Also picked up "Richard Hittlemans Yoga". That one is for stretching. And doing calisthenics now. I do not know how to quote people yet, sorry 😅 But I have read all of you. I am not in İstanbul, and I actually may pick up a Martial Art, it matches quite nice with the current goals I have. Again, many thanks you guys.