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The question is, can you still call it a ‘pretzel’ if most of its substantial properties have been exchanged to others and only the resemblance of the form remains? Maybe we should differentiate between the traditional (Brezel, italian) and the consumerist/modern (Pretzel, American), to not have any misunderstandings come up? Words as empty vases. How can anyone ever be sure, the words and concepts sold to him/her/it in meaning and explanation are authentic / solid? If they aren’t? If you look at Edward Arthur Blair and ‘newspeak’ - in the modern world you might be sold something for something else entirely! Try religion, worldview or even concepts as love or enlightenment or death or spirits! So even if I here this is in the abrahamic section, just like other religions/worldviews, - at the basis of storytelling/fables/parables and myths, there is an interpretation of gnosis or perception of world/other/self. Just if there isn’t or it cannot be seen or felt anymore, - to me it’s fake. ?! What is your take on this? When do you realize the essence (and all hope) is lost and the path a dead end? … but then again, there’s people who point out to the sacred in the most profane, so there still might be hope for Jona, whales, reptiles & the like. merry christmas, everyone ✨

- within the herd . bliss and recognition come at a price & sometimes to soon. thus it might help to forget from time to time.

‘sublimation’ as phase changing? just like eating apples: lilith and/or snowwhite both did. maybe a parallel (or parable?) is recognizable ?

Humans. Or so it seems.

He is also called the lamb, which got slaughtered by his own kind.

How do you proceed, what are your considerations?

agreed.

Isn’t what you speak of also beyond the timeframe you use to build this sentence?

How do you do that in a decent way? Quite challenging, or not?

Like what, for example? What are you thinking of? some people cannot see the consequences of their actions further than a grasshopper jumps… can’t help that - and others have worldviews, like the sage from ddj ch.5… who treats people like straw dogs. again, what Steve says, has a point: after annihilation of self, who is there to still be forgiving? and then there were none. and yet, the flesh or nerves might not be so in a forgiving mood, but react heavily to (perceived) trauma, real or not. strange are ways What’s good punishing anyways and who is morally allowed to do that? Who is above another and ‘sees it all’ so rightly? a slippery slope, imo, as you use to say….