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Isn’t anyone? “Reading what is there” relies on “picking and choosing your meanings”, in my very humble opinion on this matter.

What @salaam123 said rang a distant bell for me… and reminded me of a novel. Protagonist there said, he doesn’t like the feeling of being loved, it’s egoistic, suffocatingly sweet and sticky, makes one grasp for air, - what he wanted was to love in vain but to attain little (maybe wrongly estimated) steps towards a possible fulfillment. Not sure if anyone follows. No, @Daniel, I don’t think he has been redundant but the language barrier, words and meanings lost in translation, who knows. Along the lines of: no peace as in a lovey dovey harmonic union - where people magically change and adapt to a fruitful god wishful lifestyle in the way it would be done as a present to a or the deity - but in a way - through the sword - that nothing remains but that one. Being forced to giving up the parts that don’t belong. Getting empty, as others call it. Pervasive maybe, but to the right cause and origin. Who or what that ever is might be akin to perceiving something without senses. And the danger, grave danger… “a million candles burning for the help that never came”… no guarantees and just probabilities, no real prophecies, eh? Self shouldn’t be relinquished before time and never forced against the rhythm and one’s personal melody. Haven’t got the chance now to clear this into understandable words, might try later again, thanks.

So sorry, I thought I was at the gas station. My fault.

How is it possible that ALL of you are so very sure of your empirical sense data perceptions and conceptualizations (while others are not)…. ???

I don’t have any answers. Sorry.

In my case it was a wild bird who checked on the fence if I was okay. 🤣

Thank you for explaining your point of view, @Nungali! I guess I understand you better now.

Are you not? Luminous blob? I am confused.

here you go, cat https://www.taoistic.com/taoteching-laotzu/taoteching-38.htm

Very much agree with your first observations and paragraphs. How should there be knowledge of the absolute? We may have conceptions about it in our own relative minds, no? Or perhaps you mean that all relative conceptions of the absolute together are the Absolute because they appear on the projection surface of mind?

Thanks, that’s probably the most helpful answer. I‘m also not sure what is kabbalistic ‘tradition’ and what is nungalis interpretation here…

What’s got the poor cow got to do with it?

It would seem that the differentiation between ‚four worlds‘ is arbitrary and not necessarily a consequence of the diagramm. Why are several spheres a world? Is this intuitive or experiential gnowledge for you? (Seems I‘d need to take a look at that book of yours, bes! Seems very complex.)

Are all three pillars ‚humane‘? (As in residing in a human spirit?)

How can there be any deviance from the principle (the dao part) anyhow?