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I quoted six different unrelated methods that shared the same physical approach to wuji. Sahaja explained the idea really nicely. You start with wuji, you end with wuji...but if your wuji is doing nothing, then you get nothing from it

Any system worth its salt has a wuji posture. Southern mantis for example uses wuji to teach inner sinking without external sinking.K atori shinto ryu does the same with their natural stance, as described by Sugino. A similar description is done by Tom Bisio too. Almost the same as explained in Sun family methods (tcc,xingyi,etc). Dan Harden teaches it as misogi model. Damo mitchell has wuji teachings too... It's more like if you are only doing stillness in your wuji, you never learned wuji.

Sorry if too blunt but that explanation sounds purely like external methods

That could be case, but without meeting him how do you know it's activated and that it was because of that method? You practise several styles, couldnt the activation come from your previous experiences or parallel training?

I think that it's very unlikely to happen. The reason is simple, if you spend a long time in a method, chances are you either end meeting the teacher/master (then receiving qi emission from him) or dropping the method. It would be really strange for someone to spend years doing serious training without deciding to do a medical trip and/or having qi pills (yeah, it's expensive, but many years paying for training arent cheap either). Chances are any serious student of Rudi ends receiving a dantian activation, so I think that it's extremely difficult to know if the method works on its own

I dont know if that's the case, but I would like to know if any student developed qi emission just by trainingg Rudi's method without doing medical trips/dantian activations

sadly yes. Rudi is really nice but the medical trips are several thousands of $

Recovery and frecuency it's discussed mainly in the fa gong groups. There are a lot of warnings and concerns about emitting too much too ofteb

He also says that you can develop or fill your dantian so the whole discussion is about the starting point... If this is only about you need to create a dantian vs you need to develop your dantian... a "level zero" dantian that already exists is as useful or useless as a "level zero" dantian that you need to build. Build/rebuild to be able to do something with it vs develop and fill it to be able to do something with it...it's the same, just semantics

Seems like an interesting system, do you practise it?

External alchemy is a thing and several kinds of qi pills exist. They are usually extremely expensive. However, cleansing in a manhua sense is just fantasy. Real life is more complicated.

The differences become crystal clear if you work at the tourism sector. You can almost predict how the guests are going to behave at your hotel from the second they are doing the check in. It has an uncanny accuracy. I have probably met tourists from over one hundred different countries.

Even zhong yunlong was in the verge of crippling himself due to alcohol addiction. As a whole, Wudang should be ignored these days

There is always a bit of truth inside all these lies. Regarding Wudang, some masters of the previous generation like Zhong Yunlong were the real deal. +-40 years ago he brought back to the mountain several methods that were scattered along several regions, wudang itself had very very little martial stuff before that. For a couple of decades learning under him was an option. That being said, in the early 2000's the disneylandtification was so hard that visiting wudang was no longer worthy. If I remember well Bagua-Xingyi arrived at the mountain in the 1930's with an exchange between Xu benshang and a li cunyi student. Same for taijiquan, it's a yang taijiquan version probably exchanged by Song weiyi when he was teaching sword to taijiquan people

Sharing a couple of screenshoots just to show that I spent time at the methods I criticized

Probably because I just started to write after years of only reading the forums. It's not unusual to see "new" users jumping to defend a method when it's criticized. Anyway, I liked the sample month and if nothing goes weird I'll carry on.

Sure. Right now mainly Chow Gar southern mantis, Balint Vitarius-Ip Chee Keung line. I'm also finishing the foundations of a medical qigong named Kong Jin, under Alejandro Gomez-Wan Qing Guo line. And since last three weeks doing a sample at Ancient Masters school to try their method.

Nope. Damo moved to Bali before I could. I'm not interested on Adam.

That's the issue. It's either by eating a lot or because of the training. Both are red flags for me if you are in a teaching position

Yes, one from eating raw fish

Here are my thoughts about the course. I'm doing a sample. The first semester stuff is solid and well explained. Sitting methods to develop concentration, focus, and sensitivity + a few standing methods for cultivating energy. So far, nothing extraordinary but clearly not a scam, they know what they are doing. You can ask and they answer, continuous report of the training is expected, so you get nice feedback. The model is expensive but you get all the semester stuff at the same time, so you can very easily have an idea of how your next training months are going to be. On the other hand, until you unlock the next semester you don't know much about the stuff besides the general theme, so joining the method is a leap of faith because who knows what is coming the next year. I think that if they made a few videos the method would be more popular. So far needs a lot of blind trust

My 2 cents here! Regarding Damo's method: -It's not expensive, so paying a year in advance it's not dauting. -The syllabus is huge, way too much for the average student, if you want foundations, I'd stick to the wuji and dantian gong, with a dash of jibengong, daoyin, and five elements. There are so many exercises and ancillary methods that it would be easy to get lost. -The weekly leak of content is a bad idea for qigong. Foundations need doing the same thing for a lot of time. Weekly content is always adding fluff to keep you interested, but being easily bored is a bad thing for a cultivator. Half of the lessons arent really needed, they are filling space. -Damo itself is the reason I decided to put the method aside. I'm not a monk and dont care about his antics with alcohol and cigars, but if you compare stuff from a few years ago, you can see his body deteriorating. He had a worm that made him go through a scrawny phase, but now he is recovered and that cant be an excuse anymore. He has issues with his physical body Regarding Nathan's -The method is expensive, each course costs you more than a year with damo. -The online courses are poor. The books are way better. The courses are basically Nathan's audio files of training sessions. If you are willing to spend a few days, you could do your own files by recording the instructions in the books. The end result would be almost the same at a fraction of the cost. If you want to join his method, I'd do retreats with him, ignoring the online stuff. -Same as Damo, Nathan is the reason I didnt go further into the method. Nathan looks extremely weak and emaciated. I don't understand how he could develop yin yang fusion and advanced microcosmic orbit and not look healthy at all

Hello! I'm Jaime from Benidorm, Spain. 38 years old that mainly did martial arts but in the last decade TCM, meditation, and qigong are drawing me more and more, so I started with acupuncture and have been trying several qigong methods. I have been lurking these forum several years but I still had to write something!