Annnon

this is such a high level of... chi deviation

10 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

It’s a joke. He was actually being rude to me and singing your praises

 

LMAOOO bro you got me haha

 

On 10/07/2025 at 3:36 PM, Vajra Fist said:

 

I didn't say anything about anyone in particular! Ignore me, your post just reminded me of dramas in the past. 

hhaha it's okay

8 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

He said rude things about you, but sang my praises 

oh but why would he do that?

I didn't do nothing wrong

19 hours ago, Vajra Fist said:

.

oh I lost your reply, arrived too late hahaha

 

 

 

 

On 04/07/2025 at 6:44 PM, Nungali said:

( would that  ^  get me banned at reddit ? )

LOL you would be 100% banned at this point

 

On 04/07/2025 at 6:58 PM, Nungali said:

You get all your ties, lay them out on the ground end to end , you stand at one end , the other end is how far away happiness is . 

This is actually very interesting

2 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

I got banned on reddit but it’s useless for cultivation anyways. This site is the best publicly available place to learn

thanks bro, any funny reason why you was banned there and you want to share with us?

 

I was banned there because I made a post about women attraction LOL hahahha

 

I feel like the second Drew talking about these subjects, but without the "O's at a D"

I just find it a very interesting topic to research and try to understand why this happens, it's also nice to have other people's point of view and testimonials about this kind of stuff

9 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

@Annnon I saved some of the Flying Phoenix threads and reposted them here:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/FlyingPhoenixChiKung/s/36uvAmCTAt

Oh nice, thanks! i"ll take a look at it

Actually this is a question not only for Neirong but for everyone, do yall use other forum like TDB and Reddit or these 2 are the only ones left?

15 hours ago, Neirong said:

 

As far as I know it was closed/deleted and not coming back. 

You see managing and moderating a community is a responsibility and a work that takes time and effort. Apart from paying for hosting and development.
You would have to make decisions, arbitrate conflicts, interview new members, and so on, and so forth. 

I think most living esoteric communities are closed circles that are 

• paid for by its members
• tightly knot around a specific ideology or a particular teaching
• have a authority/respected figure that sets the rules and principles

When you have divisive opinions and conflicting views, such places and groups would fall apart. 

thanks! do you know any other place like TDB on the internet?

On 29/06/2025 at 8:20 PM, Krenx said:

The most effective Qi gong/ taiji systems I have learned, actually emphasize natural breathing. No specific breath work. And instead uses primarily gravity as the assist and root of development for chi. An important consideration and something to contemplate why. 

do you mind sharing these systems?

*I didn't read the whole post because I'm short on time* But I would like to know if is there any relation to Sleeping Qigong and Yoga Nidra.

11 hours ago, Nungali said:

 

Who ?   The person   who started that forum , Earn Grey , myself and other posters there have been past posters on DBs  - if you meant Earl Grey .... check his last post here   -  as far as I know it was his last post , it didn't sound like he was going to make another one . 

oh yep you're right, I took a look at his profile now haha

5 hours ago, Nungali said:

I haven't visited for a loooong time . I have  .... had ?  ... a selection of posts and discussions there .  It was a bit   of a 'specialists' forum and didn't seem to have much traffic or feedback .   It got slower and less active and I just stopped visiting there .

 

Also I am out of contact with Earl Grey   .

 

I cant locate it  now either .     Maybe it didn't have enough traffic to sustain it ? 

Probably not

It's sad because it was nice to have a different forum to read for a while

 

If I remember correctly he left TDB to go that forum, but now he's not here nor there, maybe someone can contact him or he comes back someday.

5 hours ago, Nungali said:

 

'Glamour'  is generated by all sorts of practices and is dependent on   specific 'energy voids'  in the receiver . 

Yep I've "seen"(read lol) this happening to every sort of practitioner from different systems.

 

Once I read a comment in another forum, in this same subject, where a guys said that, not necessarily with these words, but it was something like this: "If someone is practicing a real system, it will eventually happen, and it's not necessarily because women will think you are attractive, they will just feel something different in you and this will cause this effect, they will be looking to you and trying to understand what it is, and this can be confused with sexual attraction" this seems a good explanation.

 

BUT I've read people saying that this is 100% sexual attraction, so it's hard to say who is right, but I'll just leave more food for thought here

6 hours ago, Cobie said:

 

 

Forgiveness imo is only allowed after the perpetrator has: 

(1)  fully understood what was wrong about it

(2) never wants to do it again and has learned to control it

(3) genuinely feels sorry about it and very humbly asks me for my forgiveness.  

If these 3 conditions are not met, forgiveness is imo not allowed as that would be ‘enabling’.

 

Forgiveness is not about who is right or who is wrong, it's just about healing yourself and letting go of this energy, so YOU can heal. People often keep these things "he did this to me" and end up with some sort of illness because of the somatization.

On 09/06/2025 at 9:04 AM, 心神 ~ said:

When one gets angry, there are recommended techniques for accepting and allowing the emotion to exist and pass. Such as picturing the anger as a child needing an embrace from its parent, and offering the anger love and acceptance. Or by picturing the anger as a fierce tiger that needs stillness, silence, and observation to allow the anger to pass us by without harm.

 

Sometimes, residual energy remains in the body; increased heart rate, shaking palms, intense vibration. These can linger, albeit subdued, even after the mind has reached equanimity on the issue that triggered the anger response.

 

What are some recommended ways for clearing the anger physically?

 

The best way to overcome anger is forgiveness. Forgive whoever hurt you, and do a lot of metta(loving-kindness meditation) towards that person.

What about women attraction and practicing the internal arts? 

 

That's very dope.

 

I've seen a lot of people commenting on this topic on some posts here.

 

Some agree and some don't.

I definitely think there's something to it, I don't know if it's Jing or Chi or anything else, but it does happen.

 

There's mentions about this on Yoga practitioners saying this can happen during the practice while your body is starting to change, and then after some time it stops, and obviously, this is not the point of the practice and shouldn't become attached to these things.

 

There's also mentions about this on 2 of Damo Mitchell's books, in one he mentios this can happen while working on the central channel(sushmna or chong mai) and in the other he mentions it can happen because of a built and full LDT.

 

Which is kinda funny because while in Yoga it's meant to stop after some time, in Damo's book it feels like it never stops unless you "unbuild" your LDT lol

 

 

"The Alchemical Garden" was a forum created by one of our oldest members here (Earl Grey, if I'm not mistaken).

 

It's focus was to discuss about the same things we talk on The Dao Bums, it was like a alternative version.

 

That forum also had it's own "Flying Phoenix Chi Kung" thread, I remember reading some years ago and there was also good info there, but I just can't access this forum anymore, anyone knows what happened, is it gone forever?

On 30/06/2025 at 2:24 PM, Boreas said:

good quality sleep is a must for FPCK to work and it looks like I didn’t have that in quite some time... 

 

Can someone please go more in-depth on this topic on why good quality sleep is needed or quote the original post?

I remember reading somewhere(maybe in this post), something related to FPCK and karma burning, is this true?

 

By "karma burn" I'm referring to the act of burning bad karma from our bodies and this could result in bad things happening in one's life for a short period of time until it's all cleared.

5 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

 

These are fine, it’s normal to heat up from practice and have spontaneous movements

 

 

This should be ok, keep practicing and just keep an eye on it.
 

No, do 3 as instructed

 

 

You can do them if you like, it won’t be bad. Just make sure you rub LDT both clockwise AND anticlockwise

 

Probably just clearing something out. To be safe, when you practice this one keep your mind focused on LDT just to stop qi from rising.

 

Ok nice, great answers bro, thank you very much!!

I will be practicing again today.

4 hours ago, Vajra Fist said:

About a decade ago, I used Eric Isen to psychically 'test' the effect of various qigong forms on me over the course of a couple of years. I ended up spending several thousand dollars. 

 

I became slightly suspicious, so I asked him to test a fictitious system. To make it interesting, I made it an anagram of the words 'Eric the Liar'.

 

He gave me a glowing recommendation for this system. I paid him, thanked him and never contacted him again. 

 

Oh well.. this debunks so many stuff I think I need to read again half of the forum lol

yep I can't find nothing about it, I hope he is well and comes back soon

 

I saw that his account wasn't there like 3 days ago but didn't gave it too much attention, I thought it as a bug or something

Hello everyone!

 

Just did another 30min practice of Monk Holds The Pearl sitting med from GM Doo Wai Youtube video, I'm doing this daily until my Level 1 DVD arrives. I think today 7 or 8 days until I started, I'm not counting and I forgot which day was my first practice lol

 

Today what I felt was:

 

- Hot and kinda "heavy"  sensation in hands during practice

 

- Lots of neck spontaneous movements

 

- Some spontaneous movements in the torso

 

- At the end of practice, around the 30min mark, I started feeling hot in my entire torso and head, not TOO hot but enough to make me lightly sweat, I was wearing a hoodie since it's very cold where I live. Is this good?

 

- Change in breathing pattern during practice, similar to Yoga Breath of Fire, sometimes I would start inhaling and exhaling very fast, is this supposed to happen or I did something wrong here???

This happened in the last two sessions of practice too but I didn't give it too much attention, now I think I should ask if this is okay, maybe it's completely wrong I don't know, it happened for like 30seconds max and stop, and then it reapeat again some time later during practice and stop again

 

I read only until page 12 at the moment and I haven't seen people mentioning this pattern of breathing nor the hot sensation during practice.

 

 ==========================================================

I also have 3 questions regarding the ending of FPCK practice:

 

1- Can I do like 5 deep breathing at the end instead of 3? Just to make sure I do 3 correctly.

 

2- After the 3 deep breaths, can I do things like: rub hands and "wash" face, rub LDT clockwise and rub kidneys or this can be bad?

Every system I practice before FPCK I did these massages at the end so it feels weird to finish without them haha

 

3- Did someone ever had acid reflux after practice, I had this twice this week after doing this med, I never have it so I think it's correlated to the practice, maybe a energy clearing reaction?

 

Thanks in advance!!

lmao I forgot about facebook, oh well what happened..