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  1. Posted · Edited by Purple Clouds

    12 hours ago, MIchael80 said:

    there are not much authentic sources for waidan (which is just external alchemy) and those who have the kowledge keep it very secret...but that stuff is real even up to the philosophers stone (the external elixier)...there are some neidan schools that also do waidan but keep it very secret.

    Indeed. Chen Yingning supposedly practiced the art and he considered it superior to Neidan, a notable contrast to most Neidan masters historically. Though AFAIK he never wrote about the actual practices.

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    12 hours ago, Taoist Texts said:

    not waidan)

    Dao Hongjing considered Waidan to be necessary if one is practicing Yang Sheng practices and aiming to attain immortality. Hence why I am okay with resources on that subject being included in the thread, as they often go hand in hand.

     

    9 hours ago, wandelaar said:

    I know of some books and articles, but I would definitely advise against trying these things out as a form of medicine!  Waidan is only interesting today form a historical, philosophical and scientific viewpoint. References to the literature on Waidan can be found on Wikipedia. And indeed much less is written about Waidan than there is about Neidan.

    It should go without saying that I am not recommending or telling anyone to engage in the practice of Waidan. Please do not do this, it is dangerous, even more so without the guidance of a teacher. The same goes for Neidan in my opinion.

    I started this thread for the purpose of discussing resources on the subject.

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  3. Posted · Edited by Purple Clouds

    There seems to be a woefully small amount of available resources in comparison to Neidan. Feel free to share any books, articles, papers, etc. on the subject; whether that be herbal medicines, bodily exercises, or related rituals.

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    On 5/18/2018 at 7:56 PM, CityHermit! said:

    Doesn't Zhuangzi mention Zuowang? Seems like some earlier mentioned quotes might relate to that? I don't recall other passages offhand but maybe I should look. I love that text, I should read it again in the near future.

     

    It was my impression that some passages in the Laozi describe elements of the same thing, such as references to stillness and darkness, etc.

     

    What's described in the ZZ is not the same thing as the zuowang practice that later developed in Daoism as a result of the adaptation of śamatha and vipaśyanā from Buddhists. Daoists have historically reinterpreted the major Daoist scriptures in light of new practices that developed.

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    Hi guys, I'm new here.

    My interests are mainly in Daoist alchemy and religion, and I look forward to discussing these topics with others on this forum!

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