nohbody

1 hour ago, Marblehead said:

Curious that this is happening in the USA at this very moment, a part of society black-washing the history of the USA in order to make it appear politically correct.

 

If we don't remember our mistakes we are bound to repeat them.

 

The paradox of freedom; the paradox of tolerance.

 

The end results are lies.

 

It's always been lies,power washed to serve power and the status quo that supports power.  But we all seem to have our preferences.

 Whose will be done? 

I like how the principles of lift and buoyancy are explored in the first chapter. Naturalistic.

Faith in humanity may be misplaced.  So what else?

A Field in England

UG Krishnamurti and David Bohm Full Talk

"The so-called paradox of freedom is the argument that freedom in the sense of absence of any constraining control must lead to very great restraint, since it makes the bully free to enslave the meek. The idea is, in a slightly different form, and with very different tendency, clearly expressed in Plato.
Less well known is the paradox of tolerance: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant , if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. — In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion , suppression would certainly be unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law, and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal , in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal."

- Karl Popper

The Open Society and its Enemies 

If I wanted to gather information on non- ordinary states of consciousness...

The profession of shaman has many advantages. It offers high status with a safe livelihood free of work in the dreary, sweaty sense. In most societies it offers legal privileges and immunities not granted to other men. But it is hard to see how a man who has been given a mandate from on High to spread tidings of joy to all mankind can be seriously interested in taking up a collection to pay his salary; it causes one to suspect that the shaman is on the moral level of any other con man.
But it's lovely work if you can stomach it.

- Robert Heinlein 

The most inhuman acts are always carried out in the name of humanity. Don't feed me that sentimental nonsense, stop gorging yourself on it.  This is not an attack,  but I can't say it in a kinder way. 

LimA,

It seems to me that struggle becomes another attachment. 

Struggle has its place, life can be said to be a struggle - but seen in another (inhuman) perspective it becomes a cooperative system - a kind of dance -  graceful and terrible. 

8 minutes ago, Limahong said:

 

The internal struggle = the eternal struggle?

 

 

But what happens when we stop struggling? 

Lima,

Thank you, I feel warmly toward you,  also. 

All this talk of struggle makes me think of The Greater Jihad, spiritualizing the internal struggle. 

Seems like a bunch of white nationalists and their useful idiots who are taking advantage of a deep divide between rich and poor, "the gubmint" and "regular folks" using slick propaganda to stoke old regional/ethnic grudges while a distinctly Soviet chuckle wafts across the Bering Strait.

Delegating responsibility? 

13 minutes ago, Limahong said:

 

HI nohbody,

 

It's your job (and everybody's) to welcome Damien Baaht.

Not mine.

 

Excuse me Damien.

It's the weekend.

 

- LimA

I paraphrase badly:

Once, there was a master who traveled with three disciples. 

In their travels,  they crossed the country, and came to a great series of rice paddies.  Somewhere along the line,  they came to a disputed territory which had been allowed to be overgrown with weeds. The farmers,  annoyed by The weeds that spread from this unclaimed patch were willing to offer a reward to anyone who could clear The weeds. A poor man,  lacking sense or ability,  but seeing The potential profit waylaid our four pilgrims. He asked their advice on how to best clear these weeds. 

The master turned to his disciples and said 

"How shall we accomplish this clearing."

The first disciple, called T, said "The weeds must be uprooted by hand, only in being thorough can the field be made ready."

The second,  called N, said "that will take too long, use the hoe, the plow, and beasts of burden to make your work easier. "

The third student,  called V said, "I know a way that is better still. Board up the parcel, and let fire do the job. "

The master praised each disciple for his method,  and then admonished them: 

"If you do not  quickly plant something beneficial once you have cleared the parcel,  what was the point of clearing it? For weeds tend to fill empty spaces left alone. "

On 8/15/2017 at 8:32 PM, Nungali said:

Satan ?    Naaahhhh !

 

Jack was devoted to 'Nuit'  , the 'Queen of Space '      "To me ... to me ... "  she encouraged Jack .

 

 I was trying to be funny by posting an image that was tangentially related and over the top.  I failed. 

You're a better nobody than me 

"Nobody knows shit, nobody lives anywhere. Hello dust!”

-Ikkyu

The border between the Real and the Unreal is not fixed, but just marks the last place where rival gangs of shamans fought each other to a standstill.

- Robert Anton Wilson 

My wings are made of imagination and fire. How about yours, Lima?

Welcome aboard!

Hi!

Oops. Dropped something. 

https://mises.org/library/molyneux-problem

And this thing fell out,  too 

https://mises.org/library/mr-molyneux-responds

Those liberal cucks at Von Mises must be politically motivated... oh, wait.