Kronos

wow, thank you for the invitation see you there

you're wrong about IDs C: DragonGateNYC, I know Jeanette, like a lot of other users here. I met her twice in Dalian and also in Beijing. Last time 3 months ago. I think she has nothing to do with the other two groups

It's gTummo.

 

You bring in red, white drops and the winds at the point of the navel chakra into the central channel. then you increase the fire until it moves up and melts the drop in your hearth chakra. this increases the fire much more.

it's dangerous and high-level practise.

I don't think you know the subject.

 

I'm pretty sure I don't know the subject I can't read chinese characters nor have I any idea how the mo pai manual looks like.

I went to Master Wang last christmas showing him the picture of the "manual", explained him the 4 levels of mo pai we have little knowledge of and asked him, if this document could be a page of the so called "mo pai manual". he answered: no, this is not what you described me. it's fu.

 

But there is still the language barrier and maybe I didn't get it correctly.

Kronos,

 

the attached picture IS a manual.

It is a typical mijue manual which are instruction manuals held by most daoists and are usually passed on to disciples.

I have a collection of around 2000 of these manuals, some of which dating as early as the late Ming dynasty, but of course the manual in the picture has nothing to do with Mozi or Djiang school

 

YM

 

 

But the link is Fu (which can do magic), not for practice Nei Gong.

You're not going to feel such sparse radiation...

 

someone who does not meditate would not feel it. but most of the people I know who meditate feel the moon, influences of some other planets, magnets, electricity, other people, the chi of trees... and so on.

So why not radiation too?

Look at this:

 

Did you know that Medical Qi Gong healers are also emitting radiation?

 

Was someone of you already exposed to higher radiation levels and can tell us how it feels like?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_M6vX869sJ90/TL5szlK68YI/AAAAAAAAAUc/mtCODSaCY78/s1600/mp.jpg

I showed this picture to Master Wang and Richard 2 months ago and they confirmed me that this pages are not from a "manual", much more it seems to be a Fu.
Look at it yourself for some minutes and feel

200mg Zinc every day works too

maybe you should stop testosterone enanthate, wait for one week and then take Jin Gui Shen Qi Wan together with Clomiphene for 60-90 days and continue with Jin Gui Shen Qi Wan for 3 months. Best visit a physician who knows tcm and western medicine. I think as long as you have at least one partially testicular testosterone enanthate is not the best choice. Herbs, Moxa (Qi Hai area) and acupuncture could help too... but I'm not a physician.

I just finished reading the book on Amazon Kindle. It was easy to read... even for non fluent enlish speaking swiss guys ;)I liked the book and I'll give the SM-neigong-exercise a try

It does not differ a lot of what I'm doing...

I think you see your ego in front of the ling it's not a bad sign.

Hey all,

Just a quick question. I know reverse breathing is tightening the stomach in the in-breath and relaxing/expanding it on the out-breath. Any changes whether in/out through the nose/mouth?

 

Thanks

-Astral

 

If you breathe in through nose and out through your mouth you should generate more fire. I use this for walking meditation.

If you breath in and out through your mouth and nose you generate more stomach fire than breathing just to your nose.

None of these are teachings I learned somewhere, just my own experience

 

If you want to experiment with reverse breathing try holding breath for some seconds and or closing the 3 yin doors breathing in and holding. Look at the heat, how it moves... where it moves.

wow, thank you for the correction. Very interesting. Do you know if the sumerians believed in reincarnation? Since parts of the old testament (for example genesis) have similarities to much older sumerians scriptures.

the he: Wang Liping is nothing for me! I am christian and reincarnation goes against my belive and the hearth of christianity.

 

i guess Liping's ultimate goal for the students is to be enlightenet?

 

nothing for me again, because we never be perfect in this life here in earth.

 

my cristian belive.

 

no problem. reincarnation war part of christianity before it was removed from the new testament by the catholics in dark middle age. It's far easier to control people if they believe in purgatorial fire than if they believe in reincarnation.

There is such thing like heaven an hell. I believe I saw heaven during meditation. Master Wang told us, there's also some thing like hell. But I never visited that place. I don't know how to do.

most closed people of Master Wang Liping

 

I'm not one of the most closed people of Master Wang, but one of his students.

The answer is Yes. He asked me to not use terms of the school in internet discussions and my English isn't good, but I try to explain: there is an energy, one of three, it comes directly from the incarnation cycle. You can gain access to it or better it will come to you, after some time of serious meditation with the correct practice. Maybe you should ask Kathy or Master Wang himself, if you want to know more - I can't decide and I even don't know what we can discuss in public and what's secret of our school.

Starjumper7: you're lucky to know all this grandmasters. I know just one...

nothing to say, sorry

some groups I know of:

Germany, Instructor is Qin Ling. http://www.dao-meditation.com/

China, Master Wang and several instructors. http://www.dao-de.org/

Russia, Master Wang, Qin Ling and Victor Xiao. http://www.tjq.ru/

USA, Kathy Li, Dr. Sun and Richard. http://www.laoziacademy.us/

Switzerland, at the moment just some students, but maybe next year Qin Ling is teaching. http://www.longmenpai.com/forum/

...

Qin Ling said in a interview (on youtube/german) she believes the things written in the book are true.

She also told me once she had maybe 1% or less of Master Wangs power. So if you know here or just saw her this means it's unimaginable how powerful master Wang is.

I can just tell you that his daigong felt very strong sometimes, even when he was 8600km away.

It's just an announcement written by someone who's giving you kindly an opportunity to learn from Master Wang.

None of us is representing Master Wang. Neither I heard Master Wang making such claims like you read in Post #1. He's just happy when many students appear on his door. He's happy when students like the one who wrote this announcement in the first post are helping others to learn from Master Wang.

Oh yeah,

 

do you had the the uhmm extreme strange pressure on the right side on the back somewhere at rip cage between two 2 Ribs while getting the Dai Gong teacher Qin Ling?

Teacher Qin Lin has some items she have from GT Wang. Well they are dangerous, have you tried them out? Ah well when you go to Qin Lin ask her to do a fixed order of the meditation which you need to be able to understand in mandarin and the translator should only speak when she make some changes and add new things.

With this you can deepen the meditation as there is interference when two people speak which cultivation niveau is far different - just an adivce because if there are too many beginners and people with language barrier then this special option is too much.(You can try to ask it from Wang Liping too.Also you avoid the horrible time of teacher speaks adding the time the translator speaks)

 

Enjoy

Q

 

you mean this two coins, that aren't realle coins? I had them between palms and knees. But didn't feel much difference. I also used the other tools you put under hui yin and around your body. The only difference was that I generated so much heat, that everyone sitting around me could feel it.

Oh, I'm happy that I don't need a translator for the meditation. After listening for over a year to the recordings of Master Wang's instructions I understand almost everything I need. I'm also learning mandarin for 2 years now. But I have almost no time beside work, training and family.

I can only talk for myself:

The first retreat I joined was years ago. Teacher was Qin Ling, a teaching student of Master Wang

I learned 3 days some basics (breathing, 5-elements, xue-mu-tien & 6. line, Kan&Li, moving internal qi using external movements, Ping Heng Gong & shui gong:

Qin Lings daigong was very powerful, the second day at the evening I had something I felt like kundalini. Hot waves running up my spine. I couldn't sleep because I had shuddering attacks for several hours.

I could sit that time for maybe 45mins crossed legs without changing the position of the legs.

Then I did training for a year and went then again to Qin Ling for 10 days. We learned a lot more stuff, like the mirror meditation, walking qi gong, controlling the ling and the curtain and more.

I could sit after a year for 60min in half-lotus without pain. This retreat was really fun, because we meditated outside in the woods and there were a lot of insects. Nothing more to say about that

Half a year later I joined a training with Master Wang, just for 3 days. His brother-in-law collected me at the dalien airport and drove me all the way to Master Wang (maybe 2 hours one way) and I met Master Wang for the first time. I can't describe how it was like.

I think the second day at that seminar I was able for the first time to travel outside my body, not far, just some rooms away. But the incredible thing was, that the doing shui gong in that room could feel me.

Back in Beijing I tried it again, but it didn't work. I'm sure it was just possible in the daigong-field of Master Wang... and he let me do this just to scent the air of what would be possible if I continue training.

back in Beijing I met Qin Ling and Victor. It was the first time I could feel how much stronger they are than me. A friend of mine and me did a 2 hours meditation with Qin Ling and she easily could fry us with her Daigong, it was really pain.

After 6 months I joined again a 10 days retreat with Qin Ling and we learned remote viewing and some exercises of the first level of the three immortals. She said that my "dragon-pearl" was developed completely. Don't know what this means. :-) Since then I'm doing this new techniques and in 13 days I'll fly to Beijing to spend some days with Qin Ling and the to Dalien for 10 days with Master Wang.

I'm a absolute beginner, so I can't tell you much. I don't read books on daoism or tcm, so I can't tell you what exactly is happening in my body, I'm absolutely healthy and I'm developing a visible small pit on xue (between eyebrows). I don't tell you anything more on sensations because I believe they're not important.

Hope this helps...

December 2009 - Group

I was on a intensive retreat last december:

- Master Wang was teaching us twice a day and did shui gong at night

- We were 13 people including Master Wang and Richard who translated

 

I'll join again in 14 days. First to Beijing to meditate with Qin Ling and Victor and then fly to Dalien for this 10 days retreat with Master Wang.

 

I don't know how many people are coming this year... I hope some more. The bigger the group the stronger the field