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I didn't quote any sources, I can say something only based on my own experience, so my answers are based on my understanding of principles of qi circulation in the body and some clarifications from my instructor.

 

From my point of view there only 3 ways to improve the Dan tien, which are good to be done together:

 

1. Receive outsource qi (good nutrition, good nature places with strong qi sources and some special ingredients containing enough qi)

 

2. Qi gong practice to normalize qi flows to initiate a self restoring mechanism for Dan tien

 

3. Correct way of life to exclude qi outcome wherever it is possible (stresses, wrong habits, bad people around etc.)

 

As the possible injury deals with qi-categories as you have mentioned, my simple advice would be to find traditional Chinese healer with good reputation to see your patient.

 

But 1st and 3rd advice can be followed without additional preparations as soon as possible.

 

Rgrds, Ilya

There are two points.
First, trying and comparing two systems requires doing them in parallel for a long time until any effect appears.
Second, this effect might be rather mind-dependent (remember about placebos effect).
Unfortunately this is a weak point of just comparing two systems or practices to see what will be.

Rgrds, Ilya

11 hours ago, thelerner said:

Without full contact/ street level sparring, you simply don't know how you'll handle yourself in a real fight.

 

imo, A 'master' who performs miracles against his students, even high level ones, has no guarantee he can perform them in real combat.

 

That's absolutely correct. Lets assume streets fights to be a kind of "testing" of the martial system, independently of whether its Chinese one or European, traditional or new mixed one. But again, this shows only one aspect of the system - its efficiency in the street. And this "test" will never show hidden values of it. F.e. tai chi gas a hidden layout like qi circulation - how can we see this benefit?

Rgrds, Ilya

My understanding is that Buddhists have lost the ming method some time ago and therefore had to concentrate on heart & mind stabilization, so-called Xing practices. They have gone far in these aspects but this is only one side of the coin.
The reason why they are popular now and in the past times is that their methods are simple and available for the wide auditory.

Rgrds, Ilya

On ‎20‎.‎05‎.‎2017 at 4:31 PM, Purple Gold Qilin said:

Taichiquan isnt fake just a lot of fake teachers....Ya know the teachers who care nothing of fame trophies admiration and money often come across to the average person as an asshole.....

 

Can we count such person as a Tao chi master? Tao chi assumes inner harmony cultivation while this case shows the opposite.

Lower Dan tien rupture means serious illness with the probable death as an outcome.
From the other side it is not easy to rupture such strong energy area, some serious events must occur for one to come to this result.
So its impossible to say anything further on this question without any details - what has happened and why did you decide that it is just ldt injured.
Otherwise it would be fantasies on the case "what if".

Rgrds, Ilya

The main thing giving us life is qi. Five elements give us another aspect of sequence of things. If we try to put analogies between chemical elements and those from wu-xing then we put our position to mechanistic understanding of this concept. Five elements from my understanding relate to different kinds of qi and inner qualities but not chemistry.

Rgrds, Ilya

I dare if abstinence is equal to jing cultivation. Jing cultivation has concrete methods. Jing is the substance that maintains our vitality, and what is meant under the first term?

In Taoism there is a strong consequent system if transition jing-qi-shen based on a scope of methods and practices.

On ‎08‎.‎05‎.‎2017 at 5:26 PM, windwalker said:

you have not outlined your goals, expectations or 

past history of any other type of MA training.

 

 

 

This is exactly the first question you should ask yourself and try to find an answer. Otherwise it would be only a curiosity with some small possibility to develop in a strong interest for development in this area.

We have discussed similar questions in the thread about tai chi.

Rgrds, Ilya

1 hour ago, Green Tiger said:

If you want to become an effective martial artist quickly, tai chi and aikido are not for you.  If you want to learn to use tai chi or aikido as martial arts, you'd best be prepared to devote a lot of time and focus to them.

 

I works if you limit your goals to martial aspect only. In case you want to be involved in the whole system and obtain understanding of qi flows, relaxation and harmony then this limitation with martiality will limit your complex development.

Rgrds, Ilya

Yes.

If we want to pay attention to something special then its better to look for something that has taoist thematic or anything quite unusual.

Otherwise we would have hundreds of pictures from our life without bright impression on us and would say - look, its emanation of Tao... This is the way to decrease respect of Tao.

Rgrds, Ilya

8 hours ago, morning dew said:

 

Yeah, basically what the others said.

 

I'm not an expert, but I tend to see wu wei as efficiency: getting the job done as quickly as possible with the least expenditure of energy, i.e. speed and conservation by working with the environment rather than against it.

 

This is a good point but in this case everything optimized can be called Wu way... Are you sure that this is an exact meaning of this term?

Just if you want to find Wu way in this video - look deeper, may be there is somebody laying under the sun without any activity behind the bushes while the cyclists are streaming somewhere...

Rgrds, Ilya

There is one more thing we usually don't keep in mind. Ali ended his days as an invalid, as many other boxers, while I haven't seen such health deviations among tai chi masters. There may be some disputes about knees, but these cases are not obvious and discussable.

It shows us another sides of "western" and "eastern" martial systems.

Eastern ones assume martial aspect as a part of a warrior's life, equal to all other - ethical, social, philosophic, energy etc.

Don't mix apples with plums and don't make them fight with each other :).

Rgrds, Ilya

I am sorry to interfere, but could anyone (the topic starter also if possible) explain how does this smart trick corresponds to Wu way?

This is a nice life hawk but it doesn't deal some ho to Taoism directly, the real subject is much closer to smth like "nice hits in our life" or "smart tricks on the road cleaned from stones" etc.

Let me a bit develop a thought that was posted earlier that Tai chi is not only a martial art. I believe that martial part is only a sort of benefit in this system, but its main result is development if yin-yang balance. As a result of this balance all other areas of our life will also become balanced - health, social life/communications, emotional stability etc. This is a multy-effect system, and if you look at it as at a killing art this means that you pay attention only to its one aspect.

Rgrds, Ilya

19 minutes ago, Dioni said:

I did reverse breathing into LDT for few days, and I started having a bit of stomach ache and a general bad feeling. Can they be correlated? That didn't happen when I was doing the natural breathing

This is just natural approval to what I wrote earlier - good qi gong does not deal with imagination or exercises with changing the manner of breathing. We were born and grew up with natural way to breath, and then smb. comes with the idea that there is so called reverse way to breath... do you see the joke?

I don't say that you all are totally wrong, I just try to notice that unknown exercises with our vitality can be critical to health.

Rgrds, Ilya

Can we see an example, of a Master with qi, control distance and being able to counter attack? Those days are gone of imagination, if you practice ground, fist, kick, grappling, clinching most likely you will survive.

Just look at Chen Yui, as I wrote. I'm not sure he can beat anyone, but he seems to be a real tai chi master.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QDPPkG4F2aQ

Look at positions and the throws of power.

The person in the awaikens post looked like a passive gui just returned from meditaion, but real master has skills, movements, positions and spirit.

Rgrds, Ilya

The man who was the winner looked like a classic MMA fighter. What result would you expect in a battle between a classic fighter and "so-called tai-chi master" whose arms lack of qi, who doesn't control the distance and isn't able to counteract the attack?

Imagine Chen Yui as an opponent and I think the result could be quite contrary.

Rgrds, Ilya

Every body has its own fields of energy, so called cinnabar fields. They prevent qi from unlimited leaving the body. Mostly qi is wasted on usual activities, tensions, sex and emotions, but not as uncontrolled rising to the "heaven gods".

Rgrds, Ilya

I think its useless to try to transform yuan qi to yuan shen, untill it is fully replenished. And tho only is possible after you transform yuan jing to yuan qi.

So following to this the first step is to cultivate yuan jing, then integrate it with yuan qi and only then to combine it with yuan shen.

Rgrds, Ilya

Taoist breathing is mixing pre natal and post natal energies The belly should become warm.

As I know post and pre heaven qi don't mix with each other, because they belong to different levels of energy. There are ways to cultivate one and another kinds of qi, but differently from each other. Moreover, preheaven qi cultivation is possible only in Taoist alchemy, but not qi gong, and this is the most secret method.

Rgrds, Ilya

Improve your day with physical exercises. Start to get up early independently from when you go asleep. Get fresh air into the room before going asleep.

Don't eat at least one hour before going asleep.

Take a cold shower before going asleep.

At least one of these advice must bring you the result.

Rgrds, Ilya

Ok, then one more question about boundaries.

What kind of boundaries do we have?

Physical ones, mind limitations, emotional borders...

Who has experienced other types of boundaries?

So, digging a bit deeper, we can suppose that:

- the boundaries are useful because they help us keep save with our entity because they protect us rom our own chaotic movements from within to outside

- the boundaries defend us from outside forces and entities (forgive me for my broken English)

- the boundaries limit our will for development.

 

Is that all or I have missed smth important posted?

Rgrds, Ilya

The question is - do we need boundaries or not?

 

From one point they limit us, but from another - they help us be more disciplined... Like a hidden teacher helping us go through the road.

Rgrds, Ilya