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thanks, but I told her some time ago to gently pull in the Ldantien area (so the attention would go there) but it didn't help

Don't teach people breathing exercises beyond just breathing naturally.

Zhang Boduan warned against this in understanding reality

劳形按引皆非道， working the form, bending and stretching are not the Dao 服气餐霞总是狂 Swallowing qi and eating rainbows are all useless!

 

This is commenting on how Daoyin, various breathing exercises and cunxiang (visualization) are not as good for you as simply being natural.

 

Don't assume you have wrecked your mom, just get her to stop that practice now.

 

If your mom has lower back pain, there is probably a postural aspect to it, as well as atrophy of various abdominal muscles.

She could consider going to physio, and in the interim getting the book pain free by Peter Egosgue.  Egosque's method is a very good short term remedy to many pain related problems.

I also suggest feldenkrais, taiji classes with a compotent teacher, and looking into dietary concerns with a profressional.

 

basic meditation won't hurt your mom, but crazy breathing exercises are not a one size fits all remedy.

Remember that when it really comes down to the health of ageing people, we have to be very careful not to hurt them.  :)

I never taught her any exercises, just told her to breathe from all sides.

I remember now, that maybe about 3 months ago, when I saw that the corners of her mouth were still going down and it was not being corrected by itself,  I told her to breath a little from the back side and more from the front(but it didn't help) and told her that I may have been advising her incorrectly, but she said she didn't even remember what I had said before and then I let the whole thing be and didn't say anything about that after that.

And I have very bad experiences of just breathing from the front area of the body, so I won't be giving any advise to her to going back to that. 

She didn't have back pain, I just noticed that her back seemed weak, that's why I told her to breath like that, now the back looks normal, but the corners of her mouth are going down.

First of all, she's a woman she doesn't have any jing. Jing comes from a man's equipment. From his fireman.From his alchemy. Second of all,where is her husband? Why isn't he taking care of you two? Post about it, please.

Ok, thats new to me. But what type of energy do women have then?

But what you say about my father I don't understand, Im over 30 and don't live at home and he does take care of my mother.

I add that losing jing doesn't always manifest in the mouth area. If one leaks jing from the anus, then the corners apparently don't drop, but heavy loss of course shows itself from the face. Or if chi/jing leaks from the ldantien it may not also show.

Why do you think it means she loses jing?

I have experienced it personally(edit. although I have to say, its been so long that I can't really remember but I think I lost jing before)and more recently I saw it in my father. When the corners of his mouth started to drop, you could, after some time start to see him looking more weak. And after the chi/jing was correct and the corners of his mouth were normal, he started looking fine.

Thanks "Taoist Texts", I really wish you would be correct, but im afraid not.

about nine months ago, as I told before, I tried to correct my mothers energy because I noticed that her back seemed weak. I feared that it would cause her kidney problems later. So i adviced her to breath from all sides of the diaphgram.

So I noticed that her back became ok but the corners of her mouth began to drop heavily. This of course means that she loses jing. And so she ages more quickly now because of me.

I feel very bad now. I can't advice her to go back and breath with only the stomach side(what I believe she did before) because I know that it can lead to very bad things and make things far worse(I know thisfrom experience). Just smiling so the corners don't drop won't do anything, because the corners of the mouth dropping is just the symptom, not the illness.

Any advice?

I wasn't thinking cultivation only but about breathing all the time. Thanks for the input sonofthegods and bearded dragon.

Hi all, just wanted to ask that is the method of breathing the same with women as with men?

With men, I assume its enlarging the midsection from all sides like in the picture(don't remember where I saved it from)

what do you think?

thanks!

Hello all, I am a man in my thirties, really trying to find balance in my energy body. But really I came to the forum because I had one question, although I have been coming here before.