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Who said anything about luck? This is a function of karman (sanskrit word again, sorry) ... You see Anoesjka, we are related by something much more involved than luck.

Thank you for highlighting the subject silent thunder; I was aware of the presence of the phenomena, but not of this appellation. There is a wonderful experiment that is currently being performed, it involves random number generators in a web that spans the entire planet. The field of randomly generated numbers that it creates, shows massive spikes of correlation at times of great human emotional stress. As a side note, but I think of interest to the subject of morphic fields; I wonder how the laws of physics accounts for the massive amounts of digital information that we are currently burning fossil fuel to store on the web. Such as the glorious format that is HD video shot through a ridiculously small cheap lens; we see the fine detail with raw power and absolutely no detail or finesse, as your wonderful video clip demonstrates, please don't take that as insult to your post there is none intended and the clip is genuinely wonderful, by coincidence it also serves to demonstrate this point that of incoherence between science and the flock casing enormous energy losses ... All about resolution and this is why science currently fails to grasp the finer details to date; being that today's science is is all about resolution with absolutely no attention being paid to the quality of the viewing piece ... One must see the larger picture to realise what is a morphic field, one can not yet see that through a microscope.

I think you hint the nail on the Head there Brian; we do tend to get ourselves into the same old situations again and again, that has been a large part of the fun of my further development into more spiritual realms; makes all of that so much more apparent.

I just walked away from a job due to the insane levels of Narcissism in the work place. The worst thing when a domain becomes infested in this way, is that they support and propagate each others lies and perverted visions of reality; any one who is there to simply do an honest days work with out an ulterior motive, who wont take the shit they give out, is in trouble if they don't subscribe. Its almost as if they despise any form of genuine integrity, perceiving it as a weakness.

like flocks of probable birds!

The same thing, different manifestations there of. The thing that bothers me these days is that; in order to think freely we need an environment of security, with out aggression and fear; our governors seem to be only capable of using fear generating methods of controle. Thus people flock together rather than thinking freely. Perhaps "we are All inherently scared", could be another thread? Perhaps more relevant to the title of this thread ...

As a little side note; I don't think that a Sheppard is required for herd like behaviour , some times simply a uniform designed by Hugo Boss will suffice; anything is better than those woolly jumpers, even a clipboard and a lab coat ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment Perhaps we are ALL inherently stupid? Should we consider a new thread for that?

Sigh ... Humility, might also be considered and option, in a sane environment. This all sounds all so ... Occidental. While I am on the case; music and other performance art have absolutely no place being correlated with narcissism; other than in an insaine society that is totally debased; This would undoubtedly bring about a significant drop in the quality of all the arts. Social entropy any one? This is of course of no issue at all, if the populous are to busy admiring their selfies to notice any relative change in the quality of anything produced. Bring on the revolt; I am disgusted. Oh hello mike 134, are you considering your self better than others by your stance; ... Feeling entitled perhaps?

Hello, Nice, rather like lotus leaves don't you think? This documentary has an interesting perspective on the subject. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgOBfCrxS3U#t=79 A perhaps more interesting and powerful indication of reincarnation, can be found by combining two small aspects of two other other documentaries the same series; I leave it to your own inquisitive minds to explore that further. Perhaps a concious decision on the part of the editor or producer of this series ... I think so.

wonder of wonders will what wonders might, delight; if the rhythm is.

A few extra thoughts for the mixing pot: tūrya also means musical instrument; I wonder how attuned are the ears of those who are so aware as to be able to listen to them selves play, thus moderating their own tune upon the strength or weakness of that which they perceive. Is there perhaps some correlation here with musical or even linguistic abilities? To hear the words of a teacher emerge from the background noise that the self desirous to join with it's Self, might create. Knowledge of "śruti" is to my mind, very relevant to tūrya; the ability to hear between the phrasing the intonation and tone, between eventually the lines; to differentiate that which is, from that which imitates ... The ear is related to the third state, the breath is the vital function concerned here, our prāṇa will directly effect how we perceive all that we hear, and thus is our interpretation of all of our senses. One must be crystal clear when referring to such elucidating practises.

Turya is the other side of the void; we might remember that Gautama Buddha left his homeland and family in search of something, or, was he perhaps running away from something? 5th state is knowledge gained as one passes into 4th state. To understand this and to grasp turya we must first understand the guna, they are vital to understanding this. 4th state is awareness from out side of the guna. The guna colour our waking state rather like a conditional axis of our mind. Bhudisme speaks only of the void state, leaving that which is perceived unspoken, so as perhaps not to precondition the Superconcious; problem with this, that I have, is that demons will always creep in. Being void of the guna is to my mind perhaps more aptly stated as being at a temporal forefront. There are 5 levels of being. Material - Me my body Mind / ego - The realisation of material you, the self. Your desires and your dharma. Subconscious - The underlying you, the heart breath and vital functions. Superconcious - Your Mother tong Maternal connection, Paternal beliefs homelands structure; That by which you are conditioned. Supraconscious - Karma past life, universal connection.

it happens in dreams in bubbles of thought benign, what happens next is ...

I thought Heavens in the Tao was the celestial sphere, the sky. I am struggling to equate the Christian notion of Heaven and Hell; to the Light and Dark side of the mountain, please forgive me my ignorance.

Hello z00se Good and evil as black and white are cultural conditioning, neuro epigenetic. This is why when Christians experience altered states of conciousness; they believe that they are possessed. Rather than growing up; they go round and round in circles. Thus allowing the propagation of demonic "problems"; The Church has thrived on this for a 1000 years (West Europe); I can not speak about the orthodox church. How can you detach from that, to practise alone?

Sorry about that soaring crane.

Hello Nikolai1 Awareness is very fleeting at first, before it stabilises. We go in and out of these states whilst fully awake, we do so all the time; Watch your breath for long enough and you will notice this. It is curious thing that as we try to remember, mind smooths over the gaps to form a linear past. I think this is perhaps better aligned with Kashmir shavism than to Advaita. Turya is the 4th state or bhāva; there is more in the 5th and beyond.

Aura is sunlight.

Closely followed by a root ...

The Frog perhaps with its indisputably brave attempts at flight?

If you look closely you will observe that fish make eggs, to my mind though perhaps erroneously; They have been doing so since long before humans engineered chickens or rather domesticated them. Come on seriously; do you think chickens would survive in the wild? The egg came first; brahmanda.

Not so off topic to my mind; Please let me explain: That dog has been genetically modified by humans, over numerous generations; to be a fighting breed. Humans taking the role of probability from the course of natural selection; we are cleaver genetic engineers playing the probable God, like children with arms. This situation raises two questions in my mind; firstly, why would you kiss a chainsaw; secondly, what do we teach at school? Ignorance is dangerous; to be ignorant of your own ignorance; even more so. To call that evil, well ... I think that enough has been said.

chase each other's tails, for a whirring spinning fill, of eternity.

Squaring the circle is still impossible, it currently involves a leap of faith that is π. The square root of 2 is also an irrational number. The square root of i is -1; giving the cartisian plane of imaginary numbers depending entirely upon this value. All fantastical belief systems which are all very useful, non of them have any inherent evil. Yet those of Cartesian linear thought, might well correlate irrationals to something frightening such as one who wields a trident ... When it is quite simply the case that some numbers live upon the planes and others in the mountains. If you do not see a similarity between math (मथ्), good and evil; keep studying, there is geometry in everything; Including the Tao. ...

It sounds to me as though we are squaring the circle here and might become all pi arsed looking for its root. That said, 2 has a magic root and it is square ...