sunchild

I get this ALL the time.

 

I also get a lot of electromagnetic interference EMI

 

Enochian Magick broke EVERYTHING in my house that was electrical.

 

Cost big $

 

"They" thought it funny

do you think the enochian entities are in any way related to those of the qlippoth?

so basically if i were to follow a path of my own making,

i would have no need to chain myself to a particular egregore and risk a stranger siphoning my power when i may be running low.

i plan on taking qigong, currently saving for a trip to see a master.

how is there an egregore for qigong?

performing qigong and visualizaing/impregnating your aura seem like very different things to me.

Self mastery should be the first step before embarking on any magical path....most curriculums emphasise this. Start small.

what is your definition of self mastery?

sonofthegods, zhongyongdaoist i've been reading your posts of past, teach me please

**ps regardies 1 year manual does seem interesting from what i gathered from a quick read through

wow

I hate typing while sitting in full lotus

 

Ok, briefly:

 

When you do the LBRP you are impregnating your aura with symbols that connect you to a particular current stream.

If you do not understand what this means it is equivalent of getting a tattoo in Chinese that you are not sure what it means.

 

Down the road, that IHVH egregore will cause problems should you decide to move on.

 

Taoism uses the pentagram, but their elements are different than western style

 

Middle pillar pulls energy down the Tajii pole, and using the names, symbols/sounds- etc is connecting your poles to "theirs"

 

 

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SonOfTheGods

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Posted Today, 11:11 AM

chaining your aura to an egregore does seem like quite a commitment.

not using a computer unless it's for communication or research,

and staying away from electronics in general works best for me.

for me personally between 9-10 pm, closer to 9.

i usually wake up around 4-5, i rise with the sun

no need for an alarm clock.

http://matrix.wikia.com/wiki/Cypher

stop it. what would you suggest i do?

i feel so far away from people/places right in front of me,

it's like i'm on the other side of a veil or something.

i feel like i've escape the grasp of a clandestine something,

and it desperately wants me back under its control.

i'm just floating stimpy, in an ocean i've never known.

my emotions/moods are far more stable now,

but i just can't seem to get the hang of a life more aware.

people tell me to let go,

but i've nothing more to let go of.

current life is ground zero.

so what i wanted to be someone,

a lot of people want a career they enjoy,

am i wrong for wanting an earthly pursuit.

for something to bring me happiness?

i've already lost her and that has to be enough.

now i've gone from abysmal depression to just blank emptiness.

it's like nothing is really happening,

it's like i can't convince myself to care like before,

i've lost all motivation/desire for most anything.

life just feels like an acid trip now.

people come to me with their problems, i know not why.

people random/known ask me 'do you know who you are?" and walk away

people and their words have become as glass.

mid-life/existential crises at mid-20s. great.

It's a bit of a comedy sketch pastiche on seances now but back in the early days they actually did communicate with spirits via an alphabet and ' one knock for yes - two for no' as the poor medium spelled out each letter of the alphabet in turn with the spirit knocking once when she hit the correct letter.

It could take them most of a night to spell out a short message such as...

" Uncle Bob sends love and thanks to you all for his lovely funeral flowers. The stocks and bonds are in a tin under a loose floorboard by the fireplace."

Marketing being then as now - enthusiastic- an enterprising manufacturer came up with Oui Jah ( Yes in French and German . "Sounds Continental and a bit Mystical eh? That'll shift product! ") alphabet boards to facilitate the practice.

Pretty soon clairaudient mediums took over who could hear and communicate words direct from spirits without need for alphabet letters or knocks.

Ouija boards still sold pretty well as a sort of spooky parlour game but as far as spirit communications went, 'speaking mediums' came to the fore.

BTW I'd avoid Ouija Boards like the plague.

Those can lead to all sorts of mischief from this side of life via prankster sitters and from the other side via prankster spirits.

Likewise ' Magick' , ' Magic', ' High Mackick's Ayde' or any and all of that whole GD- Abra Melin- Tinfoil hatted - mystical boiling.

Without exception , anything that passes for that tosh via books old or new, CDs, websites or the rest is best left to the sad lads in need of someone to hug them or those wicked old men no better than ever they should be; who tend to either have created or been drawn to such nonsense.

thank you for your honesty.

since i've become more opened to energy/spiritual world,

it feels as though the farther i tread the path the more castrated my will becomes.

in this society true spiritual pursuits seem to be a path riddled with cognitive dissonance.

so many of my thought processes/pasttimes erased/'let go' for their being 'negative'

sometimes i honestly wish i could forget everything.

overall i think i was much happier in my illusions/narrow perception of years past.

thank you very much idiot_stimpy for shining a light upon my stupidity/naivete.

I think this is the crux of the issue, right? Are our desires genuinely coming from our soul, or are they conditioned through society, advertising, etc?

 

I've found that reading tons of spiritual stuff has castrated me slightly in terms of my ability to take decisive action. I used to be such a badass as a kid, speaking my mind clearly and strongly, and just creating wildly without any thought or inhibition. But I was also kind of a dick. I just didn't give a F--- at all what people thought. I found the tao at 13, and that led me into a whole string of compassion / metta stuff, but it also really inhibited my flow and made me repress a lot of emotions / negativity like "Oh I shouldn't be negative, stuff it" .

this.

Hold on a sec... EA Koeting and the Golden Dawn, are a far cry from one another (I mean in the which side of the abyss you prefer to hang out on sort of sense). I recommend one or the other (well actually I recommend just reading agrippa and working with that, but that is not the present topic, and you are I'm sure already confused enough lol), and sticking with that. Mixing GD and Koeting isn't a good idea IMO. Actually if you are brand new, unless you are REALLY drawn to the dark stuff to just avoid Keoting, especially if you want *less* odd noises and black smoke showing up at random, that you don't know the intentions of.

i didn't mention trying to mesh the two practices into a hybrid form, nor did i suggest i would ever follow the koeting school. i haven't even committed to/performed any golden dawn rituals. i am aware of agrippa, but i find the dusty monacle he writes with agitating to say the least.

Sunchild, the knocking could be caused by some ordinary cause that is not really obvious.

Do your parents believe in the possibility of poltergeists?

Out of curiousity, have you been experimenting with or been associated with anything related to spirits or magick?

 

If you start to see this sort of activity, then you know you probably have a poltergeist problem :

yes i believe in poltergeist to an extent, i entertain the thought but i do not fully accept it.

i've read up on it and it seems that sometimes it is just 'untamed' raw mind power/psi that creates occurrences such as these. as is described here \/

Washer dryer air conditioner water heater furnace cable box 2 computers light bulbs forgetaboutit

 

all of it

 

broke !

 

 

No longer doing Enochian, EMI still happens, but on a MUCH smaller scale now

 

Bangings though, all the time

 

Might be too much Yang

 

If I full lotus with a grounding wire (made a new one with yang/orgone seat) the bangings seem less afterward

 

If I am out, in the store, and get a strong emotion, I will hear the pops in wall, set up booths/displays, etc., anywhere- anything- which leads me to believe it isn't spirit activity in my own particular case

thank you for sharing sonofthegods

i'm working on attaining full lotus by fall maybe december, you have a grounding wire!!?

It is generally best if you are new to NOT try to talk to them. I don't get the feel that you are strong enough on all levels for this sort of thing yet.

 

Get a teacher. Yes I know you said you can't travel and have no money, but there are (fortunately or unfortunately, depending on how one looks at it) many many teachers willing to teach for free online (most of them ceremonial magickians too).

are you willing to direct me to any of these individuals?

all i've seen as far as teachers are ea koetting videos ... .... ....

It's called wall knocking, very well known activity for dead folks/spirits. For fun one evening (after I stopped being spooked out of my skin lol), I did a "one knock for yes, and two for no" question and answer period with them... The interesting thing is that they can do this with concrete walls too!

 

Also, check to make sure it isn't just pipes that are banging, as that sounds similar to knocking as well. However pipes don't give one knock for yes, 2 for no, and silence when I stop asking questions .

no it's not any pipes or anything, my dad checked it all out thoroughly and i think its starting to really upset them, especially when it comes around the time they're usually going to sleep.

idk if it's me or another spirit, but something definitely did a cute 'knock' when i was contemplating your post.

like should i be speaking with them if it is spirits trying to get my attention?

i don't fear the presence of the knocking anymore, so i don't really know what else it is they could want. i heard one of the qigong master guys heals spirits and that they come to him to be 'freed'?

it's just odd. i did see a black mist spirit manifest in our downstairs though one night. i had used a little marijuana and when i came in my dog started barking at seemingly nothing (he still does a lot now that i think about it), but as soon as i looked at the spot he was focused on from a different angle, i could clearly see the 'black mist' thing/spirit just hovering there. it didn't feel pleasant? but i don't know how spirits are supposed to feel

life has been going much better for me these last few months, any experience with something like this?

I get this ALL the time.

 

I also get a lot of electromagnetic interference EMI

 

Enochian Magick broke EVERYTHING in my house that was electrical.

 

Cost big $

 

"They" thought it funny

!! that's unfortunate, i've heard that enochian is a pretty dangerous system to be involved with- especially is it doesn't 'call' you.

when you talk about electrical interference, it brings up another thing i forgot to mention. sometimes when i do meditation(infrequently :/) or when i'm in that state where i'm falling asleep but not fully sleeping, it's like i start hearing peoples conversations, or i 'see'/hear scenes from peoples lives/sometimes even tv shows (but i don't watch tv, besides the occasional movie)- it catches me off guard sometimes. i will vividly 'see' something that seems to have absolutely no connection to me, but most of the time i forget them because i end up dreaming about something that kind of 'pushes it back'

:/

for the past month or two, i've started to hear these loud banging noises in the walls of rooms, but i noticed it only happens when i'm present. i thought it was all in my head until my parents began waking up in the middle of the night because of them...

they mostly happen in my bedroom during the day or late at night, sometimes waking me up out of my own sleep. the sound itself consists of a variety of 'knocks' from hard and fast to soft and slow, to just occasional loud knocks. it only happens when i'm present in the room. my dad went into the attic to investigate the source of the knocks, but he didn't find any animal or anythings out of the ordinary... and gave me a very puzzled/suspicious look.

personally i'm okay with the knocking, because after the initial shock wore off i got used to it. but i don't think my parents are taking it so lightly. it does get rather loud some nights...

does anyone here have any experience with this or something similar?

As far as I know, the lbrp isn't an energetic technique, but a psychic one which aims to clear the environment and the mind from external obstructions like ghosts, spirits and negative energies in general.

It doesn't necessarily work on Qi; it is supposed to act on a more subtle level.

 

Therefore, this cannot substitute qigong, imho.

 

The middle pillar instead (apart from the fact that it was probably invented by western occultists when they heard about kundalini) should work on the internal energies and on the subtler levels, at the same time.

When you focus somewhere in the body, this influence Qi flow... and when you use divine names, you're acting on a level which is beyond qigong.

 

 

 

 

It won't take long to become like this

 

 

 

 

he seems very... unbalanced

Its real. Be careful what you wish for, it might just come true.

how do you cope with this/integrate it into your life idiot_stimpy?

They are completely different practices from what I have experienced and seen in many others.

 

The only drawback really is the LBRP can diminish the psychic perceptions a lot in many folks.

 

Though if you are drawn to Ceremonial Magick, definitely go for it, just know that it is different than qigong/neigong etc.

 

(PS the other folks in this forum section might disagree with me greatly )

this, i do not like.

i've become very used to and have adapted some of my 'senses' into everyday life (after the initial shock of course )

i just fear qigong madness, i had an episode that greatly mirrored the symptoms of it during my 'kundalini-arousal' episode, and it 'was a bit much' to be honest. i'm debating on whether to try out the 100 day spf qigong regiment. i'm already well into celibacy (body/mental) after a rough start and i'm hearing that an internal practice of some sort is kind of imperative..

Can't go wrong with breathing practice.

true, i've heard this from many people now. i've been working on belly breathing the last couple days, reinforcing the habit.

It is not a replacement, but an excellent compliment. I will post more if I have time.

please do, i'd like to hear your advice/knowledge about this.

i was recommended to start an energy practice and every recommendation i received was a form of qigong. now the thing that particularly bothered me about these suggestions was that the recommendation was always followed up by a gentle push to get an in person teacher. now i have no money or transportation. so upon me looking for more practices that didn't necessarily require a teacher, i arrived at the middle pillar book by regardie. i went out and found it at a used bookstore in the city.

now what i'm wondering, is beginning the lbrp (eventually the middle pillar), a sufficient replacement for an internal energy practice?

from what i've gleaned from the practice so far it seems to be a sound method, and works through blockages to eventually cleanly distribute energy and open up channels.

my plan is to begin practicing this book while slowly working towards getting into full lotus pose (hopefully by the end of this year)

is this a legitimate substitute for more mainstream energy practices?

are there any drawbacks or negatives i should be aware of before proceeding?

life is beautiful because you're only as free as you want to be

ps- how hard is it to begin to settle into the full lotus position.

i hear full-lotus is like the 'ultimate meditative position'

after making my introductory post, that included a bit of back story and my main motive for consulting with the taobums community, i was recommended to take up an internal-practice.

i'd like to know which internal practices you all would recommended and that are free of charge. i don't have the transportation to commute from my area to a capable teacher, nor do i have any money with which i could pay them for their services.

the two recommendations i received were both forms of qigong.

through my research on qigong it seems to be a practice where a physical teacher is highly recommended, especially when qigong 'madness' or energy imbalances occur. also having a teacher present is 'good' for making sure your form is correct/fluid?

sometimes things get a bit electric, would appreciate any advice

i don't understand.

what's wrong with saying what you mean and standing by your word?

Hello sunchild.

 

The experience of No Feeling is hollow and unnerving, isnt it. It doesnt seem like a reality, more an absence of presence, a dysfunction.

 

Maybe start a thread on it in the General Discussion forum, for more input.

 

I would like to read such a discussion.

 

What comes to mind, reading your description of loss of connection to feeling, is that it is a proccess of recalibration, and the previous emotional set up is absent... and a new one will be structured.

 

A system upgrade, perhaps. I hope so.

 

Numbness is not a place to stick around in, is it.

 

Maybe you can write about free flowing feeling, connectedness, access to all areas...

i'm going to do that and see what comes of it cat, thank you!

yea, i'm hoping for another upgrade and not a 'trial period'.. guh.

last time i was about to have an 'upgrade' i felt like i was dying with lightning going up and down my back.. this one shouldn't be so bad..

Nope, not being facetious at all.

It's clear to see when someone puts care and creativity into a piece of writing as you did in the OP.

Mrs GMP, who used to edit an in- house staff magazine for the Post Office when she was training to teach, as a late career switch; used to teach 'creative writing for pleasure and profit' as one of her 'evening class' sidelines' and encouraged the students to keep writing, keep submitting and to celebrate everything published.

They used to compose short 'fillers' for magazines and send those in.

By the end of the course most of her students had seen their names 'in print' and been paid a small fee or won a small prize via their work being published in some periodical or other.

wow.

i was speaking with my sister about taking a creative writing/writing classes a week or so ago,

i'm thinking about moving out the city. change of scenery would be nice :/

this is very encouraging!!

i really appreciate you sharing this with me mr. grandmasterp