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  1. Posted · Edited by Paul

    I don't see the difference. You're still arrogant no matter what you do. Toot or no toot, you're arrogant.

     

    Maybe you shouldn't bother with me then. In fact, why don't you find a way to avoid the Dzogchen thread unless you are genuinely interested in what it has to say from someone experienced with its terms.

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    The certainty that I've seen comes from an indoctrination into a belief system based on a misinterpretation of what the Self-realised knew and taught from first-hand experience.

     

    The fact that it's merly a belief system manifests itself as a childish stupidity when challenged.

     

    And the penultimate sentence wasn't aimed at you; I find that you carry yourself with a considerable dignity.

     

    Dzogchen is not a belief system. It is the end of systems.

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    steve is a longstanding member, former Moderator and a Buddhist who walks the walks - unlike you.

     

    Good for him I guess. I'm just relating what Dzogchen says, not what I say. I don't toot my own horn, unlike you or Steve.

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    What do we look like when such a rare and precious teaching stimulates our intellects but fails to touch our hearts? Rails - your generalization does not apply to all Buddhists but far too many. If the teachings don't elicit real compassion and bodhicitta, if they do not create more love in our lives and relationships, if they don't lead to enlightened activity in body, speech, and mind; then they are worthless and we have not fulfilled our samaya. It doesn't matter if we are right or wrong, or if others agree or disagree. What matters is to what degree we treat each other with genuine respect and kindness. Swine will benefit more from kindness than pearls, as will princes. And those who feel that they are above the swine have never known emptiness. Peace

     

    People love to hear themselves wax poetic. Bottom line is this is a Buddhist thread and non-buddhists want to come here and start a fight, and I won't argue. I'll just laugh. That's the most loving thing I can do, because Dzogchen cannot be communicated to skeptics and denouncers. It would cause both speaker and listener to descend to the lower realms. If someone persists in trying to pick a fight, the most loving thing to do is to give them the boot. That's much better than both falling into dialogue hell. If someone has a genuine interest or has a sincere question asked respectfully, then of course the loving thing to do is to spend as much time as needed to help that person. And these are pearls. Those who come here to denigrate these teachings are swine. I love swine. I have swine coming out of my ear.

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    It's my very carefully considered opinion that you wouldn't recognise a Master if s/he bit you on the arse (several times).

     

    Masters speak from their own direct knowledge.

     

    They don't need to parrot the words of those who were also speaking from Self-knowledge.

     

    "The teacher must not invent." --Choegyal Namkhai Norbu

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    The most functional understanding imo of "grasping' and 'aversion/avoiding" is rooted in non-attachment.

     

    The middle path - neither seeking it, nor seeking it not.

     

    Just becoming the observer and being one with both and all in between.

    close, cross off the last line and you've got it

  14. Posted · Edited by Paul

    Don't underestimate ralis. Ralis doesn't concern himself with the outward appearances of Buddhism, but only with its very heart. Of course that's just my opinion, but I think it's more fun to stab myself with a fork than to dismiss ralis out of hand just because he doesn't speak using the "properly Buddhist" words.

     

    The point is this. When we keep using the same word and over and over, we tend to forget what it means. The word becomes automated in our habtitual speach patterns. We lose consciousness of what it is we're actually saying when we say it automatically. And words do become automatic from overuse. Aborting automatisms is a big part of what Dzogchen is all about.

    The words of the lineage are precious. Masters are very careful to preserve their meanings and to transmit them precisely. They convey unique ideas that contextualize and clarify this easily misunderstood path. So I doubt very much any of you know what Dzogchen is about, let alone the Nyingthig, innermost heart. Arguing about "empty" is just mumbling first grade words. As in painting, you have to learn to paint with the rules before you break them.

  15. Posted · Edited by Paul

    There's a few years of lingering resentment on this board between Buddhists and the other members on this board who are still active. Ralis is going to end up spinning your wheels while neoadvaitans like gatito are going to tell you "you don't get it".

     

    That's pretty stupid since I don't give a rodent's anus about their ideas. I don't have a need convert people. If you come to my center to deride what we are talking about, you'd get kicked out. That's the appropriate response here too.

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    It means you look at the suggestive appearances without falling for any of the suggestions. It means you look at your experience as "what can be" instead of as "what is."

     

     

    It's this but it's also deeper. It means you also have reversed or relaxed away all the mental habits, expectations and commitments that are rooted in the ordinary conceptual analysis of phenomena.

     

    You obviously have freedom to dream, but this is not what Buddhism means by grasping.

  17. Posted · Edited by Paul

    On more careful consideration, you may realise that it's you who has misunderstood my analogy and you'd certainly demonstrate more wisdon than you have to date by letting it go.

     

    The analogy is that upon seeing a rope in the shade, one can mistake that for a snake. Upon further inspection, one doesn't see a snake but a rope. The snake never appeared or disappeared. There never was a snake. It would be crazy to insist the rope is a snake. This is the Buddhist analogy for a sentient being's mistaken perceptions. You may not like it, but that's not my business.

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    Another dharma king who considers that TTBs are swine.

     

    Perhaps you would have been wiser to follow your own advice Paul instead of further illustrating the "wisdom" in your misunderstanding of Dzogchen.

     

    I don't have a misunderstanding of Dzogchen. I have training in it from several realized beings.

  19. Posted · Edited by Paul

    You are not being rude? Are you someone who has been on here before and using a different name?

    Get a clue. This is a buddhist thread. If you are here to deride buddhism, then hell with you. I don't know what you believe in, but I won't be going there to tell you your views are trite. I signed up and paid a fee. So no, I didn't pay twice.

  21. Posted · Edited by Paul

    You have proved my point as to how Buddhists behave, which in general, is not civilized. Further, why not discuss in your own words, as opposed to parroting what you have read and heard.

     

    You lack a sense of humor. I'm answering the OP, what does Dzogchen mean by wisdom, not what I mean. Dzogchen is beyond explanations. It is something that a master can transmit to someone who has that interest. There is nothing to say to those who don't. That's my experience.