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Hello, I saw one post about this book somewhere but I wanted to lay out my current understanding of the methods because it seems freaking insane. 1. Laying the Foundation 100 day retreat to awaken correct ideal postheaven qi flow followed by 15-30min daily to keep results. Method is 2h meditation 3x per day, one session on LDT, one on MDT, one on UDT. The 15-30 min upkeep is only on LDT. Literally just sitting and focusing on it, breathing into it to gather qi. Umm I don't know if this stage is really even necessary because I feel like the second stage is already gathering Qi and opening channels and it's not like your Ren Mai and Du Mai are so blocked that you can't achieve basic energy movement... 2. Essence to Qi This is the 100 days of celibacy. The thing is, once it's complete, your genitals retract and you become basically sexless. The reason for celibacy is, the essence is an energy directly tied to the physical seed. [There is also a female method I quoted in the first comment below] The (male) method is, when yang moves (you get an erection), "steal" it (as the Huimingjing says), or "capture the vermillion crow in the net as it tries to fly away" as the Cantong Qi says. Then you use martial fire and intention to put it in the ldt cauldron (The Cantong Qi is quite descriptive noting how the crow is being boiled alive in the cauldron). Then you circulate the microcosmic orbit, inhale up the back channel, exhale down, 360 times, along with intention, to heat the essence and transmute it to qi. Actually the book doesn't say 1 inhale up 1 exhale down, it says you circulate it gradually each time with multiple breaths up and down, pushing the energy. I have just been cross referencing different texts and trying to understand it. It also says the fire (breath) should be "martial" at the beginning and end (starting from near the perineum and up the back, and ending at the top of the head), and "civil"/gentle in the middle (while traversing the spine). Special note. You are not working with the actual sexual fluids. When you get an erection, the kidneys release yuan jing that leaves along with the sexual fluid, going to the supposed baby being made. This is what you are "stealing" to transmute it into yuanqi and fill the body with it over 100 days. You do this for 100 days while celibate to establish a strong great ingredient or whatever. Once it's complete, there is a bright flash of light somewhere in your upper body as the qi unites with a small amount of spirit in the LDT to create the great ingredient or whatever, so you know you succeeded. This is when your genitals retract and you have basically "ended the leakage". Honestly, according to the book that seems to be the most difficult part technicality wise. Because as the book says, the body has an internal mechanism for internal alchemy so the rest of the way I think you are basically just fueling the fire to nurture the yang fetus and blocking a couple holes and riding it out. 3. The next stage is 10 months, you basically meditate on the ldt until the pill/yang fetus starts to migrate to your mdt or compass center? naturally. Then nourish it by breathing into the ldt cauldron I think for 10 months 4. Then it goes to your upper dan tien and you keep nourishing it and eventually it is ready to break out (9 years total). It breaks out and you slowly take baby steps with it away from the body, but careful or it can get lost. Then eventually it is ready to completely detach from the head opening. "The first concrete sign that the practice is moving in the right direction is the manifestation of coagulated spirit in the form of a snow flake which indicates that the divine child is ready to exit from the body. As Liu Huayang in his Huiming jing says, "The moment you see a snow flake, let it leave the physical structure." Not sure where the Bodhidharma evaporating into air thing fits in, and transmuting the body into yuanqi. Jesus and Buddha theoretically "casted off the husk" by dying physically while the completed yang spirit survived, Bodhidharma did the more ideal thing of transmuting the body too. The book is for sale on Amazon, that's where I got it. It has many references to classic texts throughout The images are of the Bodhi Tataung Standing Buddha statue in Myanmar. It shows the death of Buddha's physical body when he was 80 and the survival of the yang spirit. The yang spirit is composed of primordial qi, yuan qi, and can pretty much do anything, and can access the yang realm supposedly. And of course leading up to this achievement there are many other abilities said to be gained from the practice.

I like it, it sharpens my teeth to analyze different arguments.

More blue eyed snake riffing on false pretenses.

Yeah peacefully get stomped on by others that'll work. Next.

You're just making up randim sh* that doesn't apply to anything we're discussing No I'm not, you wish I were. I've given you enough, I gave you a likely correct explanation of the entire secret of the methods of Taoism.

Nah I think you are just into winking. I said that it's not subjective actually.

I'm gonna need some textual evidence for your claims to backup that you're not just an egocentric gaslighter talking sh*. Also since you probably are, it doesn't make me an ass to call you out. Next.

The hell are you trying to say? Do you just wink randomly?

You're gonna need some IQ to not waste your life on the wrong lineage. Catch ya later.

Wait, but I thought that passage was explaining the method for starting stage 2, gathering the ingredients and then circulating the MCO until they coalesce, starting the MCO and ending the leakage. Oh I see, I kind of mentally flew over the first part since I didn't understand it. Yeah that does kind of sound like code for ending the leakage. So the sealing is happening at the end of stage 2 and then it says to continue refining it using breath focused on the LDT cauldron, which from what I've read is how you will continue nurturing it for the entire process until it reaches the UDT and is ready to exit and doesn't need to be nurtured anymore or something. And I think the cauldron stays in the LDT the whole time but the embryo is migrating between the dan tiens Thanks that was helpful

There's one, looking for others God it's so confusing. I can't tell if I'm just supposed to use the MCO to heat the LDT cauldron holding the yuanjing, or if I'm supposed to circulate the yuanjing in the MCO.

That was a good one lol. Although making me the target of all of these jokes is rather odd. As though you're all triggered by someone actually trying to find the real methods and do what Taoism is actually about.

You're just talking trash with no substance dude. These claims are foundational to Taoism. You don't just get to say, oh, they were just joking, Taoism is whatever I want it to be. If these things are false then all of Taoism is. Seeking truth means seeing that through, that's what I'm doing, I will be the one who knows if it's true or false.

I don't see how you used that to explain the small Buddha without pulling it out of your It's not prickly to remain steadfast in pursuit of truth. You are just making yourself seem less reliable. It's not farfetched to think that being sexless is an optimal state of spiritual achievement. If that happened it would just serve as validation of the true path. And the following omnipotence would allow all of that to be resolved if it somehow still mattered at all.

It really doesn't, that's not a rule for everyone who protects some ideology. Cringe

Don't care functions as a museum of artifacts people can view. Tell me more unrelated ramble.

Sounds like a lot of logical leaps, I'm not finding any depictions of Kanishka with a baby Buddha in his bosom

Your sweet concern is more like self righteous gaslighting nonsense. Ur logic is not logicing kiddo better stop You seem abnormally interested in beginners. Okay but you haven't successfully invalidated my method whatsoever to be saying that. Being ignorant to a valid insult doesn't make it false, not nice try though It's more dangerous for you to try to block truth and progress with your thoughtless invalidations than for me to present a true method accurately. It's right, it's safe, it's gentle, and it's amazing, and your gaslighting ego can't change that. It's absolutely incredible, you can meet the intelligent energy of yuanshen and allow it to intelligently open your channels for you. The WLP closing didn't really do much anyway once you get a feel for the energy so it's not bad to leave it out. I told an instructor I could still activate it after doing the closings... You're becoming familiar with something that has been there the whole time. It's not dangerous, it's the true method built into our bodies. Like they said it's not dangerous whatsoever. And to any sensitive person it's a natural occurence from stimulating the MCO, which is not simply an MCO, it's your body, it's intrinsic. And I said anyone can ask me questions. If what Taoist Texts said is true, it's basically like an AI for internal alchemy that you simply activate and allow to do everything (eventually activating the MCO thus ending the leakage). I didn't consider before that it could actually be a complete method on its own.

Since the Cantong Qi cryptic text has been the hallmark of Neidan texts so that aspirants could study them but random people could not. Yet here were are studying Internal Alchemy for Everyone. But, numerous texts do state that they are supposedly stating everything as plain as day for the reader despite using symbolic language so that supports what you said. I will find the titles soon thank you very much this will be very helpful I think

Great find. Not sure why you're suspicious of everything from oxygen to kittens. It's just a museum of Buddhist artifacts which can tell us about their historical practices. From there you just need to discern whether it's some side school or what exactly it's related to. The author is Chinese which of course is a huge boon in understanding the texts.

Like I said I have 9 years of experience with famous lineages and it's directly backed by famous texts. It's not Mantak Chia. It is refined to its most basic aspects which I think should be highly valued. I'm handing you a deep insight into a likely method for xing-first cultivation in a safe and cautious form. When being cautious you stick to established roads, don't tread cliffs, etc. The MCO is an established road. And I didn't even say do this every day of your life although you likely could and maybe should. Anyway I don't care what you do I am just checking your carelessly negative statement with 0 supporting facts. It seems pretty ridiculous and unintelligent to say that breathing up and down the MCO, the trunk of the body's entire qi system, 3 or 4 times is dangerous And no just because Mantak Chia uses the MCO it doesn't mean he trademarked the key channels of internal alchemy 😂

That makes a lot of sense to me. But I have seen some texts say to seal it at that point. Are they just taking creative license/purposely confusing the reader as some such texts like to do?

I need to process your post, but about this what I'm saying is, can you please tell me what sealing means if you have managed to understand it? Because I do not understand it.

S:C, Stealing is the term used in the Huiming Jing. It means that when yang moves from the kidneys to the genitals as the natural response of arousal (in the form of the male erection) in the body's preparation to provide some yuanjing to the supposed baby, the method is beginning by stealing that energy away from the natural process using breath and intention to guide it away, then circulating it in the Ren Mai and Du Mai to transmute it to yuanqi Note, the yuanjing essence is called "metal hidden within water", it's not the sexual fluid itself, it's yuanjing energy that accompanies it. You might think of it like water charged with electricity or something, except not exactly.

I will share my own method for Xing-first cultivation. It's about as simple as breathing so I don't see much reason for caution for anyone considering trying it. I call it, "Doing the Microcosmit Orbit", wait for it, "While Standing Up". The two ingredients Fire and Wind as used in the Huimingjing for other purposes are used here. They are Intention and Breath. Start by circulating the MCO, while standing. On inhale, start from the base of the perineum and move your point of intention up the back of your body in a straight line to the top of your head. On exhale, move your point of intention from there in a straight line on the front of your body to the base of your perineum. Note: Make sure the tip of your tongue is at least touching your hard palate at the front of the roof of your mouth if not the entire roof of your mouth because that is where the energy moves to continue the orbit. This is one complete repetition. Continue doing this a few times and you should start to notice your body undulating a little as you go up and as you go down. This is the movement of yuanshen I guess. You have activated it. Then you may repeat a few times for a strong activation, then stop and relax in place. Allow the movements to arise. It will take control. The energy is intelligent. I don't really think there is any danger to yuan shen, yuan qi, or yuan jing being in your body. Wu Liu Pai has a method to close the process but I can't share it haha. And this is not their method. If you've done the MCO at all you've probably stimulated it before and not realized it. I really don't think it's bad. It probably disperses on its own left unchecked. The idea of this method I think is that the energy already knows what to do and it opens channels as needed and then theoretically sets the MCO in motion itself (moves the MCO considering what Taoist Texts said about it although I would like more supporting documentation), creating the alchemical pill and thereby starting the growth of the yang fetus? Although if that's true then after stage 2 the methods are identical. Let me know if you have questions about the method. I just noticed, I think the Ruyao jing zhujie (Mirror for Compounding the Medicine) might actually be about the xing-first method, not sure... That's how you look doing the spontaneous movements Commentary by Wang Jie on part 1 above: Magpie Bridge = Tongue on palate which connects the Ren Mai and Du Mai, the two channels composing the MCO In Heaven responds to stars = going up the back of the body the energy is inclined upwards Earth tides = going from the top of the head down, in the same way it is naturally drawn down the front like a magnet (this is explained in the commentary)