Astrotheology: So what do you think?

[Patrick Brown]

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It's interesting and pretty compelling stuff although I do take it with a pinch of salt. So did Jesus really exist? I doubt it and I also doubt that the Buddha existed but that's not really important is it?

[Seth Ananda]

I love Zeitgeist, but on the Jesus Issue, as to whether he really existed or not who knows.

I tend to think not, looking at things but as I go back and forward between the Christian sites refuting this theory and the sites promoting it my head starts to hurt. It seems both sides really want to be right and stretch the 'facts' resulting in endless refuting.

I think at the least he may have been a figure that had all that myth 'cut n pasted' on top of his actual existence.

Still looking though...

I have to admit, I would love for someone to be able to prove he didn't exist. -One nature denying monotheistic religion down, a few to go... Awesome.

Seth Ananda

[h.uriahr]

...It doesnt matter.

[wudangquan]

There was definitely a historical Jesus.

 

Whether the religious/spiritual stuff that's attributed to him is true or not is a matter of subjective faith.

 

However, he definitely existed.

 

The Roman/Jewish historian Josephus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus) who was a contemporary within 50 years documented him, and he was not Christian (at all).

 

I'm personally not a fan of modern/post-modern Christianity (at all, and for personal more than ideological reasons) and to question his 'divinity' is reasonable, but to question his existence in uninformed.

[Taoist81]

There was definitely a historical Jesus.

 

Whether the religious/spiritual stuff that's attributed to him is true or not is a matter of subjective faith.

 

However, he definitely existed.

 

The Roman/Jewish historian Josephus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus) who was a contemporary within 50 years documented him, and he was not Christian (at all).

 

I'm personally not a fan of modern/post-modern Christianity (at all, and for personal more than ideological reasons) and to question his 'divinity' is reasonable, but to question his existence in uninformed.

 

Not to say anything one way or the other about the historicity of Jesus, the quotes from Josephus are questionable at best. They for the most part read like insertions. Furthermore, the one quote that is most likely to be authentic, simply notes that James' brother was crucified.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus

 

Again, not to say there wasn't a real Jesus, just that Josephus doesn't make a good argument for it. Chances are he was a Jewish revolutionary, or maybe the Mandaeans are right? : ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandaean

[Pranaman]

"even if there was a jewish sectarian teacher, he had nothing at all to do with the crucified christos." I believe that is what John M. Allegro many years after he translated the original dead sea scrolls. Too my mind, there was a jesus, there was a buddha. Probably the same gifted individuals blessed with a contagious and uplifting energy for everyone they came in contact with. definitley not to be worshipped. anyway, just my belief.

[Aetherous]

Half baked theories.

[Seth Ananda]

Half baked theories.