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That was really interesting. Thank you.

Felt a little bit like the First Movie of a planned Trilogy, which never got finished because nobody else liked it.

 

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I wonder why this Topic catches my attention.

It did before.

One thing, I guess, is  that I love a good Story. Not belittling as in "just a story". Kind of the way Imagination was mentioned here earlier. ( Like Imagination relates to just imagination similar like Story to just a story)

And then, of course, because I wan't to know what to do about it. And take a bit revenge. Maybe.

 

So.. That's what I thought and it reminded me of a story.

Capital S would be a little much here.

 

Once upon a time guy in his early twenties finishes a half a Year of work and heads to the nearest Train station to start his half Year of touring, as that's the way they used to do it back then.

He sees this and that, he sleeps here and there until he comes to the Teutoburg forest and the Externsteine.

 

Here's the Wiki- Link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Externsteine

 

It's overwhelming. He spends Weeks walking in the Woods stumbling over amazing things, he meets someone who can tell him something about it and then there's the time he sleeps under the tree where they say Abbio von Thiotmalli had been baptized and something happens with the Birds and I don't know, it doesn't really matter here.

The point is he loves it and it's life changing.

The rest of the Tour gets canceled. It's Time to rest.

 

The Years go by. Quite a few of them.

 

He comes back. There's a woman and children with him and they are surprisingly cute, but something is different.

This time it's not early Spring, it's the middle of Summer. It's tourist season and he hates it.

The way most people around them behave is disrespectful at best. They're selling entry tickets and ice cream.

The situation is killing him. They will of course make a wish at that tree, the girls will be climbing around and he will show them the Bärenstein but it won't be long before he really wants to leave.

He's angry, but the problem is a subliminal sadness the anger is pushing to the surface.

 

( A little Box inside the Box:  The Bärenstein is about a ten minute walk from the Externensteine. North- Westish.

  I have heard people say that it's the older place between the two, but I don't know that. I do know that it has some                          Atmosphere.)

 

So the next morning our guy wakes up in the van they been sleeping in, he grabs a roll of toilet paper, a little shovel and all his angry thoughts to walks into the forest.
The thing about Teutoburg forest is that it's one of the few remaining beech forests in the mystical land of this story and in the Times of ancient Sumer, for example, there was little else. There would be birches at the water or spruce in the mountains, but under the conditions there the beech is truly made to rule them all. It's a pretty natural natural environment.

Just a few steps into the forest he starts  to dig a little hole knees above it and as he lets go

everything goes

the forest becomes a Wood again

and he is in it

a moment we'll call beautiful when it's gone.

 

So, yeah, that was all this was about.

I thought that, when I think about the gap between the current way of living and a way of living that may feel more in tune with the world from the perspective of civilasation, it seems unbridgeable, but as an Individual sometimes it just takes a shit and you can at least see the Bridge.

 

Big news, I know.

 

ps.

I'm not sure if the picture of a forest becoming wood works in English. In German "Forst" means forest, but in an economic sense and "Wald" means the same thing, but the word has a subtle magic left to it.

 

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7 hours ago, Draco said:

What became of Marduk?

 

His different 'adventures'  are  'representations'   ( or 'propaganda' ) relating to the political to and fro in Mesopotamia  and surrounds .  Eventually as systems and peoples interacted and formed new systems and people so did Marduk  and seems to have transformed into  a more orderly and 'civilised'  God / system .    Eventually he begins to be referred to as Bell / Ba'al ,  and since that name can also be a generic title , the trail then becomes diffused .

 

 

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Many thanks for that. Seems like Mars/Lemuria is connected to Marduk, but I can't put my finger on it

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3 hours ago, Draco said:

Many thanks for that. Seems like Mars/Lemuria is connected to Marduk, but I can't put my finger on it

 

I can understand relating Mars and  Marduk  but how does Lemuria fit into it ?

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Only read the first page of this thread. The idea of catching up on 28 pages is daunting, probably wont do it. So maybe these links have been shared already and the conversation probably long moved on, but throwing in some links for the most easily accessible up to date research on some of these topics.

 

https://wondery.com/shows/tides-of-history/episode/5629-bone-stone-and-genome-understanding-humanitys-deep-past/

 

(All of season 2)

 

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4411.Eden_in_the_East

 

https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300182910/against-grain

 

https://www.amazon.com/Dawn-Everything-New-History-Humanity/dp/0374157359

 

I recommended this one before. One of the most important new books for anyone trying to suss out dominance and hierarchy. Doesn't provide all the answers but blows up a lot of misconceptions and asks new questions.

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4 hours ago, spanda said:

Only read the first page of this thread. The idea of catching up on 28 pages is daunting, probably wont do it. So maybe these links have been shared already and the conversation probably long moved on, but throwing in some links for the most easily accessible up to date research on some of these topics.

 

https://wondery.com/shows/tides-of-history/episode/5629-bone-stone-and-genome-understanding-humanitys-deep-past/

 

(All of season 2)

 

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4411.Eden_in_the_East

 

https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300182910/against-grain

 

https://www.amazon.com/Dawn-Everything-New-History-Humanity/dp/0374157359

 

I recommended this one before. One of the most important new books for anyone trying to suss out dominance and hierarchy. Doesn't provide all the answers but blows up a lot of misconceptions and asks new questions.

 

I have been trying to get Eden in the East for some time now .  I will have to try another attempt .   Its been out of stock, another time my card details got snitched and my account closed ( due to attempt at 'suspicions trading OS ' ) -  I even got a friend to use her card to order the book , paid and never got it  ... an elusive book .

 

Thanks for link to the other two , they look interesting .

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On 10/30/2019 at 3:18 PM, Taomeow said:

 

I've never observed chaos in nature.  Only in ordered societies.  In nature order arises from chaos because it's simply its inherent property.  Chaos is what chaos does -- and what it does is order. 

 

Whereas in unnatural, civilized/artificial conditions, i.e. conditions of domestication that abolish natural processes, chaos ensues with unnatural frequency precisely because natural processes of order-making have been cut at the root.  Hence the need for consolidation of authoritarian centralized power, to impose some artificial order as the ruler sees fit.  Whether the dragon stands for that natural order destroyed by the centralized authority or merely for the competition (a power grab is always competed against by someone who feels as strong, or stronger, to impose his own order as he sees fit), I don't know.  History is written by the winners of those pissing contests.  And before there were winners and losers, before writing, before the scribes were instructed what kind of narrative to write (or else), there was nothing to lie about.    

 

But another possibility is, it's all real.  It is told as it happened.  There were dragons and other genetically modified war machines,  originating somewhere on a different planet, occasionally fighting for this one, attempting hostile takeovers, one of them ultimately succeeding, and life on our planet behaving as their involuntary employee ever since.   

 

A.I are dragons

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On 11/19/2021 at 7:06 PM, Nungali said:

 

I can understand relating Mars and  Marduk  but how does Lemuria fit into it ?

 

I believe Mars to be a projection of ancient Lemuria.

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1 hour ago, Draco said:

 

I believe Mars to be a projection of ancient Lemuria.

 

How does that work ?   'Ancient Lemuria '  made an image of itself in the form of a planet and projected it into orbit ?

 

'Ancient Lemuria' went to Mars and settled on it ? ' 

 

( I never heard this one before ! )

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On 11/22/2021 at 10:33 PM, Nungali said:

 

How does that work ?   'Ancient Lemuria '  made an image of itself in the form of a planet and projected it into orbit ?

 

'Ancient Lemuria' went to Mars and settled on it ? ' 

 

( I never heard this one before ! )

 

Settled science, mate.

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