Starjumper Posted May 18, 2019 I don't do the I-Ching oracle very often, but sometimes when I do I get one which includes the advice: "Favorable to establish feudal lords". To me this means something like establishing a group or network of like minded people as a support group ... but, but, I'm a hermit. So, please do tell more about how this could or should play out. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted May 18, 2019 Which hexagram and line? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted May 18, 2019 I get it quite often when I do a reading so I was looking for a more general application of it, but I will check to see what the latest one is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) On 5/18/2019 at 2:07 PM, Apech said: Which hexagram and line? I got #16 - Delight Thunder over Earth Decision: Delight Favorable to establish feudal lords and mobilize the multitude Commentary on the Symbol: Thunder comes out of the Earth Rising and stirring An image of delight In correspondence with this the ancient king composed music to honor vitrue and merit with ardent eagerness he offered it to god and shared it with his ancestors With the first line changing, so it becomes #51 - Taking Action Thunder over Thunder Edited May 21, 2019 by Starjumper 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Starjumper said: I got #16 - Delight Thunder over Earth Decision: Delight Favorable to establish feudal lords and mobilize the multitude Commentary on the Symbol: Thunder comes out of the Earth Rising and stirring An image of delight In correspondence with this the ancient king composed music to honor vitrue and merit with ardent eagerness he offered it to god and shared it with his ancestors With the first line changing, so it becomes #51 - Taking Action Thunder over Thunder Hi, The theme of this seems to be about a king inspiring through music (related to the rumbling of thunder) and assembling his forces. feudal lords would be like generals or officers and the multitude the troops. It could be related to an intent or purpose (the king) supported by conceptual forms (officers) and through them the various things you would have to do to put it into practice (the troops). Thunder as a trigram is usually thought of as a shock, or something that stirs up a new order - a change (usually radical). So to get action one has to first inspire people by the idea of it, publicise it, enthuse others and lead them into action. I don't know what your original question was - and it doesn't really matter - but the moving line suggests to me that 'singing out delight - misfortune' means that as this converts to thunder/thunder - sometimes all the energy goes into the music, and the dancers (marshalled forces) get left behind, so although there is a lot of noise nothing really changes. Edited May 21, 2019 by Apech 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
