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As I am perusing some sites, I found these questions that I would like to know some answers based on your knowledge on Daoism:

(2) Why Tai-Sheung Lao-Chun is revered by the Taoists

(3) How should we regard the worship of the Taoist Gods?

(4) Do you know the Taoist ways in questing for longevity?

(5) Do you know what are Chai and Chiao?

(6) Do you know the basic features of the canon of the Taoist scriptures?

(7) What do you know about the Taoist sects in Hong Kong and their relationship with those in China? 

(8) Do you know why Taoist monasteries are called Gong and Guan?

(9) Do you think Taoist beliefs are of close relevance to our present-day world?

(10) Do you think Taoism permeates the Chinese culture?

 

Your input is much appreciated. Thanks

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9. Taoism has relevance to present-day as much as it always had.

10. A lot is still in Chinese culture even popular culture.

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So many questions.  For good deeper answers I'd recommend this book.  It does a good job answering questions on Taoism in terms of a religion, getting much deeper then so many 'pop' books that are on philosophy or techniques, which are by necessity watered down.  This book has solid information and the kindle version is just $5 https://www.amazon.com/Taoist-Manual-Illustrated-Applying-Taoism/dp/0967794811

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21 hours ago, kondensation said:

9. Taoism has relevance to present-day as much as it always had.

10. A lot is still in Chinese culture even popular culture.

Thank you for your response. What do you mean has relevance as much as it always had? If I read some history, all we know is the history of those who were privileged so I am wondering how Daoism was relevant during those days and how they impacted people's lives. In which way is still in Chinese culture aside painting or CTM? I see some concepts they are used so not sure how you quantify a lot? Just curious. Thanks again

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20 hours ago, thelerner said:

So many questions.  For good deeper answers I'd recommend this book.  It does a good job answering questions on Taoism in terms of a religion, getting much deeper then so many 'pop' books that are on philosophy or techniques, which are by necessity watered down.  This book has solid information and the kindle version is just $5 https://www.amazon.com/Taoist-Manual-Illustrated-Applying-Taoism/dp/0967794811

Thanks, kind of expensive book. Wonder why is so expensive, is the author a true Daoist? or true practitioner?

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2 hours ago, Mig said:

Thanks, kind of expensive book. Wonder why is so expensive, is the author a true Daoist? or true practitioner?

Author is Brock Silvers.  Who was a neighbor of mine growing up.  I think he became the real thing.   Learned Chinese, headed to the monasteries to learn and fix them up, protect them.  Along the way I think he became a true Daoist, I believe.  The book has more then its share of scorn for philosophical Taoists and wannabees (which I am).

 

The physical book is expensive, but the kindle version for $5.  The Kindle app is free on iphone and androids.  You can adjust font size, and I find its nice to have books on my phone.  One never gets bored.  Also I've learned that I can set up my Amazon Echo smart speaker to read Kindle books for free, if you don't mind them being read in the Alexa voice, ie not professionally. 

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Hi MIG,

Just my 2 cents:

 

2) Why Tai-Sheung Lao-Chun is revered by the Taoists

For me, Tai Shang Lao Jun 太上老君 is a honorific name

In the past, people thought that there is "Something" outside of human. "Something" that is much bigger, older, source of everything, the most respected, etc....

But, what is that "Something"? How should we refer/call this "Something"?

Then someone gave a honorific name as Tai Shang Lao Jun.

 

(3) How should we regard the worship of the Taoist Gods?

I think the Taoist deity is not forcing people to worship them.

People just give respect to them.

Even if people don't care about the Taoist deity, nothing will happen.

 

(4) Do you know the Taoist ways in questing for longevity?

The taoist is take care of their physical body, maintain it through a healthy food, exercise, etc.

thats why there are many PE invented by the taoist master such as Taiji quan, Wu qin xi, Qi gong (breathing exercise), wushu, etc.

 

On the mentality, they are practicing meditation, to controll the stress, balancing the hormons, etc.

 

the traditional chinese medicine was originated from taoist master as well,

they are pay attention on the nutrition, thats why they are climb the mountain to gather the herbs like ginseng, etc

they are using accupuncture & accupressure to help regulate the qi through the meridian (which is until now, modern science still can scan the meridian through x-ray, mri, etc right?)

 

(5) Do you know what are Chai and Chiao?

Sorry, I dont know

 

(6) Do you know the basic features of the canon of the Taoist scriptures?

what do you mean with basic features?

if i understand correctly, the taoist scripture (dao zhang), is a collection of taoist book from various taoist school.

 

(7) What do you know about the Taoist sects in Hong Kong and their relationship with those in China? 

quanzhen pai, surely have link with quanzhen pai in mainland, the headquarter is in Baiyun guan, in Beijing

zhengyi pai's head quarter also in Long Hu Shan, China

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On 3/12/2019 at 1:04 PM, thelerner said:

Author is Brock Silvers.  Who was a neighbor of mine growing up.  I think he became the real thing.   Learned Chinese, headed to the monasteries to learn and fix them up, protect them.  Along the way I think he became a true Daoist, I believe.  The book has more then its share of scorn for philosophical Taoists and wannabees (which I am).

 

The physical book is expensive, but the kindle version for $5.  The Kindle app is free on iphone and androids.  You can adjust font size, and I find its nice to have books on my phone.  One never gets bored.  Also I've learned that I can set up my Amazon Echo smart speaker to read Kindle books for free, if you don't mind them being read in the Alexa voice, ie not professionally. 

Thanks for the input. I avoid kindle and prefer paper cover books, will save some money to see if the book is worth buying it.

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4 hours ago, Mig said:

Thanks for the input. I avoid kindle and prefer paper cover books, will save some money to see if the book is worth buying it.

Definitely worth $5, probably 3 or 4 times that, but $56 seems steep.  Hopefully they'll have another printing and the price will go down. 

 

The internet knows all, if you ask the right questions. 

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6 hours ago, Mig said:

It seems most of Daoist denominations use the same jargon and similar rites, in this case jiao and zhai??

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On 3/14/2019 at 7:00 PM, Mig said:

Thanks for the input. I avoid kindle and prefer paper cover books, will save some money to see if the book is worth buying it.

 

I agree, nothing like holding a paper book !

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I have no idea who ”we” are or should regard worship of the Taoist Gods, but for myself i regard it with respect and curiosity. My own worship of Guan Sing Tai is under instruction and development trough Sifu so i regard that with comfort, serenity and more curiosity.

 

In beginning it i chose to accept what would come from it and be sincere. I regard his effigy as if it were him and i pay my respects and beg forgiveness and patience when i see his house or altar improperly set up. For me Guan Sing Tai, Pak Tai and the Gods are what they are, i treat them with honesty and respect because i know they would not ever treat me without any consideration.

 

I cant say exactly how or what they are, embodiment of principles, ascended immortals, supernatural or natural beings or whatever, it’s not perhaps so important to classify them or something when they can in fact be interacted with and it is possible to build a sort of relationship through worship. Ask me again in ten or twenty years?

 

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