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Sorry Guys  - I apologise in advance for this topic!

 

And I'm not trying to be funny or anything, but if semen is Yang energy and a woman swallows my issue, will she absorb my energy?

Also if I'm going down on her, would the same be true, would that be Yin energy or Yang energy in this case? So a 69 would be a fair trade off  then?

 

I have not been able to find any discussion on this topic, having done a few searches on my tags and read a few topics..

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Best regards,

 

SY

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They are bodily fluids not some super duper energy potions.

 

Do your thing and don't worry about yin and yang fluids worry about getting the job done properly. ;)

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I've heard of men being able to gain something from the woman's fluids through oral sex, and I suspect the same could be said of women gaining something from the man's semen. But I've also heard that these are not legitimate methods of exchange, some more religious people even saying that this would be a harmful method, and I've also read Daoists saying that this is a false path.

So, lots of people say lots of things.

I don't think it's necessary to apologize for wondering about anything sexual, because this is a subforum for these types of subjects.

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6 hours ago, SwordsmanYen said:

Sorry Guys  - I apologise in advance for this topic!

 

And I'm not trying to be funny or anything, but if semen is Yang energy and a woman swallows my issue, will she absorb my energy?

Also if I'm going down on her, would the same be true, would that be Yin energy or Yang energy in this case? So a 69 would be a fair trade off  then?

 

I have not been able to find any discussion on this topic, having done a few searches on my tags and read a few topics..

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Best regards,

 

SY

 

The first thing I'd say - and I'm not sure if you are saying this anyway - but sex is not some kind of substitute for cultivating energy - sometimes it is used symbolically and actually as part of practice but it is not the thing to concentrate on in my opinion.

 

I think it is true that to a certain extent the exchange of sperm and vaginal fluids orally would link to yinyang and impact on the balance between you and your partner - but there's lot else to consider, like feelings and energy exchange through touch and so on.  Its also not as simple as sperm is yang as it is actually generated by jing which itself is not a physical substance.

 

Generally speaking most people seem to consider ejaculation by a man to be a loss of jing hence a loss of energy - some teach that in a balanced relationship this is compensated by a kind of return from the woman - but other dispute this - and in any case it would depend on things like good intent, good stability and circulation in the subtle bodies of both and a shared willingness to give generously to each other.

 

Aside from this I would suggest that you just enjoy what you are doing :)

 

Just some thoughts.

 

 

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I would suggest that the balance of the individual is the priority and by that the I mean the subtle electro-chemical balance within the body that effects emotions and the mind. It may be that there are certain micro nutrients or even hormones which may benefit each person in a sex act but it may be that the detrimental effects could outweigh any benefits. Whereas the protein component of seamen is negligible it is rich in many micro nutrients some which are scarce within the body. 

 

No two people will ever align perfectly when it comes to their sex-drive but some are obviously better matched than others. What remains true is that even a good match is nowhere near perfect.

 

My only advice is when lust is driving sexual practices and not love expect to reap the negative consequences. 

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Dunno, I have never felt energyzed after doing it. Might not work for guys ... but as I know both positions I know very well that though it might not be leading you to a longer life it definetly is appreciated by the receiving end. 

*edited due to typos

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Thanks fo far for all your comments so far guys. These were just some things I always wondered about and was afraid to or had no one with which to discuss about them. The abstinence or reduction of release aspect of energy cultivation is probably one of the hardest parts for most people I think, myself included.

 

@ Kar3n, I won't be selling the potential energy gaining benefits of the act to my partner to encourage her to perfom more often :D

@ Aetherous, never heard about men potentially gaining from serving a woman in this way, only that the woman could potentially benefit from the semen. I will research this further thx.

@ Apec, Thx a very interesting point, thanks for correcting my misconception: 

 "...Its also not as simple as sperm is yang as it is actually generated by jing which itself is not a physical substance...)

 

This kinda made me consider an intersting point... Eunuchs and virgins were always traditionally portrayed as powerful Nei Gong practitioners or people with high potential to be powerful in Wuxia films and in folklore. It kind of makes more sense now, thinking about it.

 

@ Patrick Brown, I concur, but putting sex and lust aside, I also think some people are energy vampires, without even realising it themselves. It doesn't even have to be about sex and lust.

 

@ Miroku, Thanks for your thoughts, I was also considering about the Nu gui, Ghosts/Demons from Chinese mythology. Maybe these were evil Nei Gong Practictioners...

Nü gui, the Feminine Ghost

The ghost of a vengeful and angry woman dressed in a long white dress is probably the image that most influenced Japanese and Hong Kong horror cinema in the last two decades. In the tradition, it refers to the red dressed ghost of a woman who committed suicide. Generally it is linked to injustice, such as a rape or moral unfairness. She returns to take revenge. In the tradition the red color in the ghost stories symbolizes anger and revenge. In some variations the ghost manifests itself as a beautiful girl who seduces her victims to suck their Yang essence. The male variant, Nan Gui, is rarely depicted. This type of female ghost is similar to the Succubus, demons in female form that appears in dreams in order to seduce men, usually through sexual activity. The male counterpart is the Incubus

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On 1/10/2019 at 7:03 PM, Apech said:

Generally speaking most people seem to consider ejaculation by a man to be a loss of jing hence a loss of energy -

 

As a side note:  the stickiness is a consideration of jing. 

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1 hour ago, dawei said:

 

As a side note:  the stickiness is a consideration of jing. 

 

Would you like to elaborate?

 

I'd be interested to see what is taught about viscosity. There are Tibetan Buddhists text which discuss the taste of seamen. Essentially when seamen is stronger, thicker and salty it suggests the man ejaculates rarely and if sweet and runny it suggests the man ejaculates often. Of course it take time for seamen to mature about three days I think.

 

I would also be interesting to get more insight into the 'ocean of yin' as women can also be strong or sweet tasting? 

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6 hours ago, Patrick Brown said:

 

Would you like to elaborate?

 

I'd be interested to see what is taught about viscosity. There are Tibetan Buddhists text which discuss the taste of seamen. Essentially when seamen is stronger, thicker and salty it suggests the man ejaculates rarely and if sweet and runny it suggests the man ejaculates often. Of course it take time for seamen to mature about three days I think.

 

I would also be interesting to get more insight into the 'ocean of yin' as women can also be strong or sweet tasting? 

 

 Not sure I have anything to add except I've never seen anything on viscosity but it seems to be something to it.  I generally agree with the other comments you make. 

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There are people who harvest young people for their energy in one way or another.   

But it is evil and material, just another practice that does "something" funny with energies but leads you nowhere.

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On January 10, 2019 at 9:29 AM, SwordsmanYen said:

Sorry Guys  - I apologise in advance for this topic!

 

And I'm not trying to be funny or anything, but if semen is Yang energy and a woman swallows my issue, will she absorb my energy?

Also if I'm going down on her, would the same be true, would that be Yin energy or Yang energy in this case? So a 69 would be a fair trade off  then?

 

I have not been able to find any discussion on this topic, having done a few searches on my tags and read a few topics..

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Best regards,

 

SY

 

 

 

 

Consciousness, Form and Essence in Intimacy

Do not let form get in the way of recognizing the answer to this question.

 

From a Taoist perspective, what one consumes is not the materiality, but the essence and/or the energy found within and through form. One’s capacity through exchange of such subtle substance(s) depends on many attributes unique to the nature of each individual’s composition, intention and capacity in relation to its source.

 

Since at a basic level most people cannot perceive the qualities of subtle vital forces, they are unable to practice dual energetic circulatory exchange effectively. Because of this, the profound unifying consciousness transmitted through intimacy remains unrecognized and instead the act is reduced to a very base and corporeal experience of sex whereby any exchange of energy is merely a by-product of unconscious circumstance. 

 

So yes, sexual activity generates energy that pervades space and can infuse people, but this alone doesn’t make it healthful or profound.

 

 

Quality and Capacity of Yang Qi

In this case, you assume seminal fluid is made of yang qi, and while this is technically true, the materiality of it is not the entire measure of its quality. The essential vitality of qi will vary across individual- so perhaps your partner has potential to absorb something powerful from you, perhaps not. You must know yourself beyond theory and seek to cultivate, tonify, and refine its essence, so that the physicality of the substance becomes merely a vessel of delivery for what is greater, for what is more pure, potent or powerful. At it’s utmost it is: yuan shen contained within the yuan qi of a pure jing; at an intermediate level- clean, strong and vital common qi; and at a mundane level-  a substance of high potency that can readily and massively create.

 

But remember, simply having vital jing, does not mean you know how to transfer is essence, even if its physical substance (and therefore aspects of energy) are being given.

 

 

Health in Receptivity of the Subtle

In terms of the one’s ability to receive, this depends on the quality of their field (in Taoism the human vessel is primarily an energetic field) and its subtle regions and pathways. In this case, the central channel, the greater orbital path of the body and the middle dan tien of the heart are deeply integral to sexual reciprocation. If one suffers from various forms of stagnation and closure at any level from (be this the psyche, the corporeal, or the subtle) then the process of circulation may be inhibited. Conditions such as psychological frigidity and fear, weak kidney qi, blood stagnation born of the liver, a tight chong mai, an overly dense and phlemagtic form, and chronic illness; are all types of conditions that may inhibit the vital flow of qi not only in the individual but in dual circulation and cultivation.  On the other hand, one whose field is weak and therefore more penetrable, one whose conscience is prone towards sucking in the energy of others; or conversely, one whose system is pure bright and vital, or whose conscience is clear and subtly refined in its awareness to harness… all these manifestations and more, can lend one to a greater propensity of absorption of energy. 

 

But note that experiencing and/or receiving energy is not as important as consciously being able to recognize, retain and transmute the healthful energy or consciousness contained therein, and that it is this which substantively creates transformation.

 

 

Energetic Experience, Daily Living, Conscious Intimacy

The basic fact that energy is exchanged through living is like any another condition of exchange in life…. whether you enjoyed feeling the sunlight on your skin, got sick physically from that heat, or were able to absorb its energy and transmute it to revitalize your three jiaos. So then, unconscious transient energetic experience is very different than the conscious and substantively transformative alchemy of dual energy cultivation. Depending on the quality of what was received, it is the conscious ability to retain or release and transform the subtle that will have most impact on the enduring quality of one’s health and consciousness. 

 

If you view the sacred unifying reciprocation as a “trade off” then it is unlikely you are giving, receiving and experiencing the profundity of ‘spiritual’ totality in such union.

 

Sexual energy is alone powerful, but it can only of healthful value if the intention is pure and benevolent, if both partner’s understand (whether instinctually or intellectually) the methods for exchange, and if the vital essences are clear. And, it is of utmost value if in addition to all of this, both partners have enough connection to their own Original Spirit to transfer Consciousness. Since most people are not connected to their Yuan Shen but instead deluded by xi shen (acquired knowledge), this makes dual cultivation challenging- if not harmful, as many people attempt this with misguided understanding and through perverse means even if it is that some part of them desires a more transcendent goodness.

 

 

 

it is easy to restrict this question to a matter of sex, because it is and also appears more charged with potential. But the truth is that there are infinite forms of relationship in which exchange between fields is occurring at all times. Your quality of consciousness and the purity of your vessel will help you to determine rightfulness and recognize the quality of these exchanges naturally, free of the complexity found in semblances if you allow yourself to expand your perception of existence and proceed from a deep benevolent place of sincerity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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There was an article on Yahoo, circa 2003-04, that women who swallow have a lowered risk of breast cancer If I remember correctly. 

 

I had the article bookmarked and wanted to show it to someone. It had become a dead link. 

 

But check this out:

 

http://web.mit.edu/zoz/Public/CNN-Fellatio.htm

 

 

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