Animals, humans, gods… ?

[juan]

33 minutes ago, Starjumper said:

Those who can see through the veil know this. 

 

But I cannot see through the veil. 

[Marblehead]

8 minutes ago, juan said:

 

But I cannot see through the veil. 

If it is that thick you might have to rip it down.  Then you can see what has been going on behind there.

 

[Starjumper]

14 minutes ago, juan said:

But I cannot see through the veil. 

 

Meditate well for a long time and you will.

[juan]

10 minutes ago, Marblehead said:

If it is that thick you might have to rip it down.

 

6 minutes ago, Starjumper said:

Meditate well for a long time and you will.

 

OK, thanks for your advice. 

[johndoe2012]

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Edited June 10, 2018 by johndoe2012

[juan]

5 hours ago, johndoe2012 said:

Sounds like a deity could be helping you out, yes.

 

It is part of Tantric Buddhism to use a deity as consort for clearing blockages and realizing your true nature.

 

When there is no 'someone' IMHO then this a taste of 'your' divinity.

 

Thanks, johndoe, this brings the conversation back to the point I wanted to stress. 

 

First, I admit that I could very well label this “presence” as an external divinity helping me. I have even “seen” her eyes! And she is helping me a lot, if help consists in raising my previous experience to totally new realms.

 

But it could also be ‘my’ divinity. I mean, an external divinity is someone alien to me, with his/her own agenda. But ‘my’ divinity is always there, her reaction seems to depend on my intention only. She goes as far as I want to go - or rather, as far as these ‘energies’ take us. And when we fuse, I no longer know if I am the male or the female, if I am “me” or “her”. Internal or external, who cares? What counts is this dilution of my perception of being male or female, even of my own individuality. 

Edited June 4, 2018 by juan