Brian Posted January 5, 2017 "Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real." - Niels Bohr The Illusion of Reality "It's conscious agents all the way down." - Donald Hoffman 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jox Posted January 5, 2017 "Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real." - Niels Bohr Copy pasted on my fb wall ... lol ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted January 5, 2017 Thanks for sharing, I find his work to be very compelling. I bet Mr Hoffman would find a very receptive and understanding audience among those of achievement and realization in both Buddhist and Taoist cultivation and I was just saying in the shared dreaming thread yesterday, that for me, the waking state is another dream state. The first time I encountered him, he made an appearance in a documentary and I was reminded of the many potent similarities Fritjof Capra unveiled between the then cutting edge realizations about the nature of quantum physics and the canon and nature of taoist cosmology. Potent stuff. Go Mr Hoffman! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SeekerOfHealing Posted January 5, 2017 Realizing illusion of this existence is yang shen/immortality Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3bob Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) not really according to some who say, "first there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is" or how about this one, "samsara properly understood is Nirvana"? Edited January 6, 2017 by 3bob 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted January 6, 2017 How about: If you cant smell it, taste it, see it, hear it, or touch it, It doesn't exist. The mountain exists - I have climbed it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C T Posted January 6, 2017 How about: If you cant smell it, taste it, see it, hear it, or touch it, It doesn't exist. The mountain exists - I have climbed it. It may be that the mountain climbed you, MH 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3bob Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) MH, How does no-thing (or Mystery per chap one of the T.T.C.) smell or taste, look or sound like and also feel like? (suggest looking at chap 14 for a Taoist answer) Edited January 6, 2017 by 3bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Songtsan Posted January 8, 2017 Reality is really real. Real is a funny word anyways...say it slow.... R E A L Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted January 8, 2017 MH, How does no-thing (or Mystery per chap one of the T.T.C.) smell or taste, look or sound like and also feel like? (suggest looking at chap 14 for a Taoist answer) One of the reasons I insist that Dao is a verb and not a noun. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted January 8, 2017 Reality is really real. Real is a funny word anyways...say it slow.... R E A L And it sounds just like: R E E L Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3bob Posted January 8, 2017 a verb can't "go far" and "return" by itself 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted January 8, 2017 a verb can't "go far" and "return" by itself You got that right! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
