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Well, let's face it.  Trump hasn't had much spirituality in his life.  He needs all the help he can get.

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Well, let's face it.  Trump hasn't had much spirituality in his life.  He needs all the help he can get.

 

Not at our expense. I had religion shoved down my throat when I was young and I have no interest in what may become a theocracy!

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Not at our expense. I had religion shoved down my throat when I was young and I have no interest in what may become a theocracy!

 

Yeah, but you did notice I used the word "spirituality" and not "religion".  Other than that I agree with your response.

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Yeah, but you did notice I used the word "spirituality" and not "religion".  Other than that I agree with your response.

 

There are many that equate the two.

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Is Trump for real?

 

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141496745

 

 

Trump vows to lift ban on politicking, appoint antiabortion judgesSource: Washington Post

Donald Trump won a standing ovation from hundreds of Christian conservatives who came to New York City on Tuesday with a somewhat skeptical but willing attitude toward a man who has divided their group with comments on women, immigrants and Islam. In his comments, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee said he would end the decades-old ban on tax-exempt groups’ — including churches — politicking, called religious liberty “the No. 1 question,” and promised to appoint antiabortion Supreme Court justices.

“I think maybe that will be my greatest contribution to Christianity — and other religions — is to allow you, when you talk religious liberty, to go and speak openly, and if you like somebody or want somebody to represent you, you should have the right to do it,” Trump said. A ban was put in place by President Lyndon Johnson on tax-exempt groups making explicit political endorsements. Religious leaders in America today, Trump said, “are petrified.”

As president, he said, he’d work on things including: “freeing up your religion, freeing up your thoughts. You talk about religious liberty and religious freedom, you don’t have any religious freedom if you think about it,” he told the group, which broke in many times with applause.

Throughout the talk Trump emphasized that America was hurting due to what he described as Christianity’s slide to become “weaker, weaker, weaker.” He said he’d get department store employees to say “Merry Christmas” and would fight restrictions on public employees, such as public school coaches, from being allowed to lead sectarian prayer on the field.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/06/20/how-can-trump-win-the-many-undecided-evangelicals-we-asked-them/
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Not at our expense. I had religion shoved down my throat when I was young and I have no interest in what may become a theocracy!

Yes, but then there's the other side of Ralis which is just as bad as theocracy. I would agree with you had I not known that other side. Yours is not to simply decry spiritual mysticism alone, no, your intention is to strengthen muscle mysticism. You despise religion, but favour collectivism. If you knew your philosophy you would discover that both share the mystic, they just go about it differently. One has a deity, the other a state, or the collective, the 'common' good.

 

You have a permanent scar running from religious abuse, but you are running right into, what seems like the opposing wall, which when you can see its full extent is just one wall.

 

Sanders is every bit as mystic as Trump. You made that distinction between the spiritual and the religious, but you should make it between the spiritual and the mystic. If you look there you will discover the truth.

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speaking of that mystic sanders  <_< in the past 5 days, 19 super delegates have switched to him from clinton.

it is hard to find any mention of it in the news at all. sure she still has a humongous lead with super delegates

and why is she starting to lose some of those? and why are we not being informed by the news about it?

things can change quickly in american politics

are there surprises left in this election cycle? will it really be clinton vs trump?

supposedly both have the required amount of delegates,,,,,,

 

if somehow there could be a combining of the libertarians , greens, and bernie...,..,......

 

without a doubt the current 2 party system needs to go the way of the dodo

28% of registered voters come from the gop

30% come from the dems

43% are independents 

the largest block, the indies, have mostly been shut out of the political process this primary season

 

a recent poll shows that 6 in 10 think that clinton is lying about her emails

not sure if the other 4 in 10 are getting oxygen to their brain

 

and remember that chair throwing ruckus where sanders supporters showed their teeth or sth????

it happened when clintonites stole nevada,,anyways

that reporter that said that about the chairs has been fired for Lying about it

whats up with all these liars being in the clinton camp? 

imitation is the sincere form of flattery , i reckon

 

http://usuncut.com/politics/nevada-reporter-chair-throwing/

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Yes, but then there's the other side of Ralis which is just as bad as theocracy. I would agree with you had I not known that other side. Yours is not to simply decry spiritual mysticism alone, no, your intention is to strengthen muscle mysticism. You despise religion, but favour collectivism. If you knew your philosophy you would discover that both share the mystic, they just go about it differently. One has a deity, the other a state, or the collective, the 'common' good.

 

You have a permanent scar running from religious abuse, but you are running right into, what seems like the opposing wall, which when you can see its full extent is just one wall.

 

Sanders is every bit as mystic as Trump. You made that distinction between the spiritual and the religious, but you should make it between the spiritual and the mystic. If you look there you will discover the truth.

 

What are you talking about. I am not interested in your analysis due to the fact that you have no idea who I am. Keep it to yourself!

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What are you talking about. I am not interested in your analysis due to the fact that you have no idea who I am. Keep it to yourself!

Go on then Ralis, what kind of political system do you support, let's clear this up once and for all. That you don't support a theocracy is clear enough, but what do you support ?

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Go on then Ralis, what kind of political system do you support, let's clear this up once and for all. That you don't support a theocracy is clear enough, but what do you support ?

 

The OP is in regards to the upcoming election. Stay on topic as opposed to being nosy about my personal beliefs!

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The OP is in regards to the upcoming election. Stay on topic as opposed to being nosy about my personal beliefs!

 

OK who will you be voting for and why ?

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None of your business!

Trump for president then, best man for the job. Sort the liberals and communists out.

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i agree wilfred, i watched at about the 35 minute mark and trump is making sense. he is politely asking for bernie supporters to join with him.

while on the dem side, with all of the false accusations about bernie bros being militant leftists, throwing chairs etc 

at a party unity meet up a clinton supporter actually did assault the founder of the millennials for bernie group

http://usuncut.com/resistance/bernie-sanders-delegate-assaulted/

is't it strange how the media wont report a real incident but did report false ones?

in the eyes of the corporatist establishment media clinton and her supporters can do no wrong while everyone opposing her is under the microscope

if this had been a bernie or trump supporter assaulting a clinton supporter it would have been headline news

 

and this is totally unacceptable

 

meanwhile

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/284481-clinton-it-specialist-invokes-the-fifth-100-times

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Is Trump for real?

Obviously not. He just knows that the religious-right is a large block of the GOP and they are easy to dupe.

... sad n' scary to see.

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Host: "Are you going to vote for Hillary Clinton in November?"

 

Sanders: "
Yes. I think the issue right here is I'm going to do everything I can to defeat Donald Trump
."

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Host: "Are you going to vote for Hillary Clinton in November?"

 

Sanders: "
Yes. I think the issue right here is I'm going to do everything I can to defeat Donald Trump
."

 

 

That's called being a good Democrat no matter how wrong they are.

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I think its just more evidence that  as president, he'd not do anything to upset the status quo and be naught but an obama II, doing the globalists bidding while giving lip service to the issues.

 

What he should have said was "there has been so much electoral fraud that has taken place in the D race that I could not in good conscience vote for the recipient of said electoral fraud"

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