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"american democracy" is the title of this next piece, at this point i could not use that phrase so casually or loosely.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-kaas-boyle/american-democrazy-my-day_b_10366180.html

 

the article is actually titled "american democrazy", which makes more sense

 

it is hard to say exactly when democracy died in america, we can say that in 2016 the death cannot be denied,

the rancid stench that fills america's air and airwaves now is evidence enough

at the least we can say there is a pervasive sense of disenchantment, disenfranchised, disillusionment, bewilderment about the process as we enter into the shifting paradigm of the globalist agenda

 

will july 25-28 2016 in philadelphia make august 26-29 1968 in chicago look like a bake sale?

#contestedconvention     #ExitPollGate

#stillsanders                    #BernTheDNC

#neverhillary                   #MarchOnTheDNC

#cuinphilly                       #BernTheConvention

#revolution

 

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You still haven't gone as far as we have in Europe. You are getting there, but because it's the USA that is making all the rules for everyone else you haven't yet closed down every angle. Your Government still has democratic tendencies. Our EU is completely unelected, it's a Neo aristocracy, a full on tyrannical operation, not just undemocratic, but blatenty, anti-democratic.

 

If we vote to leave the EU then it might be the motivation needed for the rest of the world to shed these authoritarian institutions and rediscover freedom. No doubt we will be punished for our insolence shoukd the vote go our way, but at least we will have created a marker. With the U.K. Leading the way, then the Southern European countries might take a gamble (and with the Euro they won't be under the currency pressure that the UK will find itself in shortly after June 23rd).

 

If the EU breaks then the US loses its hegemonic grip and very likely it's NATO blessing for carrying out its illegal wars. The chain reaction might well topple some of your institutions and begin a parallel peaceful revolution in the US.

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begin a parallel peaceful revolution in the US.

I have my doubts should such a major shift take place that it will be peaceful, but then i'm aware we have differing interpretations of that term. 

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I imagine that Trump will take full advantage of the Orlando tragedy. He will escalate the paranoia big time.

 

ISIS has allegedly taken responsibility.

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141486157

 

 

 

ISIS claims responsibility for Orlando Florida nightclub shooting: Amaq News Agency tied to group
Source: Daily Star (Lebanon)

CAIRO: ISIS' Amaq news agency said on Sunday that the Islamist militant group was responsible for the shooting that killed at least 50 people in a massacre at a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida.

"The armed attack that targeted a gay night club in the city of Orlando in the American state of Florida which left over 100 people dead or injured was carried out by an Islamic State fighter," Amaq said.

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Lebanon-News/2016/Jun-12/356615-isis-claims-responsibility-for-orlando-florida-nightclub-shooting-amaq-news-agency-tied-to-group.ashx


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Suspected Orlando shooter called 911, swore allegiance to Islamic State: NBCSource: Reuters

Omar S. Mateen, the Florida resident suspected of killing 50 people at a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida, called 911 before the shooting and swore allegiance to Islamic State, NBC News said on Twitter.

In a posting on its web site, MSNBC said Mateen swore allegiance to Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-florida-shooting-mateen-idUSKCN0YY0SY

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I imagine that Trump will take full advantage of the Orlando tragedy.

 

Well Obama certainly has, making it into a gun control issue rather than a terrorism issue.

 

That being said...why the fuck was this guy able to purchase firearms after being investigated by the FBI twice for ties to terrorism.

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call me crazy but maybe Trump is correct to keep calling attention to radical Islamic terrorism. it is indeed an ongoing problem and something that is now being spun into a gun control issue, though the Paris attack flies in the face of this logic. he at least deserves credit for sticking his neck out and insisting these type of attacks would continue, as the establishment types turned the other cheek. calling him a racist wears thin when the man has consistently had foresight into these events.

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Look, I'm not interested in who will be next president of United State of America at all...as Japanese Living in Europe, I studied that USA have still death penalty.

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Look, I'm not interested in who will be next president of United State of America at all...as Japanese Living in Europe, I studied that USA have still death penalty.

Well, Japan still has it too, but it's rarely applied. Only China exceeds the USA in this respect.

 

No matter if Clinton or Trump will be elected, we can rest assured that the US will continue on their path of aggression both toward their own citizens and those of other nations. Both neo-conservatives and neo-liberals have their agendas in the current mess.

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I imagine that Trump will take full advantage of the Orlando tragedy. He will escalate the paranoia big time.

 

ISIS has allegedly taken responsibility.

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141486157

ISIS = ciamossad and the bankster sword arm "security services"

 

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 witnesses report multiple shooters, but of course that gets reduced to just one, and he had an "assault" rifle, see

 

once again we have an untrained "security guard" from somewhere, drives 120 miles away from home, and enacts ridiculous carnage,

 

and then the "news" alters it  to fit the narrative that the security services set out to tell.

 

 

 

 

when substantial details like this are wiped from a story, you know its just another false flag scare-op

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In a UK survey it was found that 52% of Muslims wanted a law to prevent homosexuality.

 

This is what leftists get. The same thing when they find out that those lovely immigrants are raping and robbing peaceful, law abiding western people.

 

The crime figures in European cities has exploded in recent months. Just this quarter an additional 186,000 reported crimes in Germany and in the UK there is concern that we haven't got enough prisons to cope with immigrant crime.

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In a UK survey it was found that 52% of Muslims wanted a law to prevent homosexuality. This is what leftists get. The same thing when they find out that those lovely immigrants are raping and robbing peaceful, law abiding western people. The crime figures in European cities has exploded in recent months. Just this quarter an additional 186,000 reported crimes in Germany and in the UK there is concern that we haven't got enough prisons to cope with immigrant crime.

 

sources ?

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Look, I'm not interested in who will be next president of United State of America at all...as Japanese Living in Europe, I studied that USA have still death penalty.

:)  you can still participate on this thread if you like. part of this thread addresses the absurdities of the election process

and examines some of the psychopaths that aspire to the presidency.

 

death penalty is a real issue. candidates like bush and clinton gleefully celebrate state executions.

sanders opposes it.

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Everyday, Trump proves that he is a right wing authoritarian fascist.

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141487529

 

 

 

Trump says he's revoking press credentials for The Washington PostSource: The Hill

Donald Trump on Monday said he is revoking the press credentials of The Washington Post, one of the nation’s largest newspapers, over its “dishonest reporting.”

The presumptive Republican presidential nominee made the announcement in a brief post on Facebook Monday afternoon.

"Based on the incredibly inaccurate coverage and reporting of the record setting Trump campaign, we are hereby revoking the press credentials of the phony and dishonest Washington Post,” Trump wrote.

In an earlier message, Trump slammed the Post for its coverage of his comments Monday morning about the mass shooting in Orlando, Fla., on Sunday. In those remarks, Trump questioned President Obama's committment to fighting Islamic terrorism.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/283318-trump-revoking-press-credentials-for-the-washington-post
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Perhaps Governor Gary Johnson is the most viable candidate. When he was governor here I thought he was just fine.

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Everyday, Trump proves that he is a right wing authoritarian fascist.

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141487529

 

That's an interesting take. However, the MSM are all on the same side churning out propaganda and lies, so what do those who are the targets do ?

 

I'm not saying that Trump shoukd go down that road either, but we do have a press that is largely controlled by a few big corporations and trumpets the states voice.

 

I've said on another site that those who support sanders are kidding themselves. What you need to realise is that socialism is dead and buried in all but third world countries with tinpot dictators. The facist elite keep socialism alive like a isolated culture, it's useful to them, but it will never be permitted to be more than a tool. The West went facist after the Second World War- you don't imagine that any power hungry politician/businessman would ignore a regime that almost took down Russia and Europe on its own ? The Nazi political/economic/social solution has ruled since the 1950s. It more slowly died out in Europe and then Britain than the USA.

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of course they need some 'anonymous' source for the manufactured "terrorism"

 

alI gotta say is - go ahead and get on the FBI's watch list, and see how that background check goes when you go to buy a gun.  

 

(someone behind the scenes pushed that through)

 

anyway, its baffling that there's a company out there that advertises itself as a mercenary establishment that is willing to go and do the things governments wont do.

 

this guy was working for them since 2007

 

and what about the other shooters?

 

 

 

and if not other shooters, what about the media pages memorializing people that were created the night before?

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smells like victoria soto...

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That is ridiculous.  I did not know that headlines were blaming the Internet now too, just guns.

 

Radical Islamic fanatics exist with or without Internet.  To blame the internet is like blaming someone's eyes for shooting somebody since if they were blind they would  have probably missed.  Sure, the eyes play SOME ROLE, but has nothing to do with the catalyst and root of the problem.

 

Some people like to blame liberals (should have more strict borders), some people like to blame conservatives (they attacked them in the first place, making a problem way worse).  However, if the people realized their enemy was the globalist controlling elite, then we could utilize our energy more efficiently and take down the dragon by its throat, instead of just arguing about mass-produced spectacle.

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That's an interesting take. However, the MSM are all on the same side churning out propaganda and lies, so what do those who are the targets do ? I'm not saying that Trump shoukd go down that road either, but we do have a press that is largely controlled by a few big corporations and trumpets the states voice. I've said on another site that those who support sanders are kidding themselves. What you need to realise is that socialism is dead and buried in all but third world countries with tinpot dictators. The facist elite keep socialism alive like a isolated culture, it's useful to them, but it will never be permitted to be more than a tool. The West went facist after the Second World War- you don't imagine that any power hungry politician/businessman would ignore a regime that almost took down Russia and Europe on its own ? The Nazi political/economic/social solution has ruled since the 1950s. It more slowly died out in Europe and then Britain than the USA.

it isnt about sanders and socialism. let me say that again. it is not about sanders and socialism.

it is about rallying around someone with the courage to stop this nonsense of having another bush or clinton pushed on us yet again. 

this is about push-back and this is about how far we can push-back.

the american people are being tested, summer is here and the time is right,  right now

they are still counting votes in california much to the disdain of the establishment.

 

karl, you say you had your moment in 2007, do you not suppose that there are tens of millions of others that had a similar moment? there are a few things need remedied. and its gonna get done. it is getting done

step by step

the jebster (who represents  "The Nazi political/economic/social solution has ruled since the 1950s.")  was totally rejected to the tune of him having to spend 40 million per delegate. the nazi bush dynasty is done, kaput

 

trump , like him or not, and just like sanders, trump tapped into the Anger that is pandemic among an awakening population---

trump's campaign is an insurgency against the entrenched establishment, likewise

bernie's campaign is a parallel insurgency against the same establishment

 

surely this must be very unsettling to the entrenched establishment aka gloabalists and they are pushing with all they got.

take away the citizens guns especially assault rifles

shut down the ready means of mass communicating and organizing--take down the internet

for every action or force there is an opposite and equal reaction

this is america, this is not europe or britain.

keep your focus on the brexit vote and that will be interesting to see how that plays out

but i hate to tell you that here, and i am not alone in saying this, bernie won the vote

bernie won in iowa he won in new hampshire and so on. 

so i hope you get an honest election there

surely you know about americans? there is another R word besides racist but the establishment media wont tell you about it.

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Via TheAntiMedia.org,
After the most recent mass shooting in Orlando, Florida — the worst in U.S. history — one might ask how the FBI was able to investigate the perpetrator, twice, without deciding to take any further action. This question is further confounded by the fact the perpetrator was, according to his wife, an abusive, unstable man suffering from bipolar disorder.
 
A more appropriate question would be: what is the role of the FBI in counter-terror operations? How were they not able to prevent this incident, despite “preventing” hundreds of high profile incidents prior to this?
 
Out of the 508 terrorism-related cases since September 11, 2001, more often than not, the FBI has had a hand in creating the very terrorist threat they have claimed to be protecting us from. Two-hundred and forty-three of these cases involved an FBI informant. In many instances, the targets of these operations, who are later accused of plotting attacks, are not only almost always Muslim, but they are also often suffering from a mental illness, such as schizophrenia. Moreover, the targets are also vulnerable and easily susceptible to bribery as they are desperate for money – so desperate, it seems, they will help put their own friends behind bars.
 
This can be seen most clearly in the Newburgh Four case, which saw a combination of mental illness and an urgent need for money. One of the “Four,” James Cromitie, was a former drug addict who repeatedly tried to back out, saying “I don’t want anyone to get hurt.” In the words of a U.S. Court Judge, “only the government could have made a “terrorist” out of Mr. Cromitie.
Another defendant in the Newburgh case, Laguerre Payan, suffered from schizophrenia to the extent he kept bottles of urine in his apartment. David Williams, another of the four, had a brother who needed a liver transplant, and he was prepared to do almost anything for the money to pay for it.
 
The FBI chooses the most vulnerable members of society and then coaxes a relationship between the target and an “informant,” who helps instigate the terrorist activity. There is, generally speaking, no evidence the targets would have engaged in such activity had it not been for the FBI.
 
The case of Rezwan Ferdaus involved a man who suffered from severe depression and seizures and had to wear adult diapers for lack of bladder control. An FBI agent told the target’s own father Ferdaus was “obviously” mentally ill. Yet Ferdaus became a  target of these FBI operations: he had plans to carry out an attack on a massive scale on Capitol Hill, which the FBI could then “save” the public from — relishing in all their glory.
 
However, prior to this engagement with the FBI, there was, again, no evidence Ferdaus would have ever engaged in any criminal or terrorist activity. Ferdaus’ attorney argued he had repeatedly tried to back out of this activity.
 
In another case, this time linked to an individual reportedly inspired by the Boston bombing, it was the target’s own father who alerted the authorities of his son’s behavior; his son had created a Facebook page expressing his support for ISIS. He, too, had a long history of mental illness. The FBI evidently saw this as a great opportunity to advance their agenda and provided him with two rifles and a handgun — despite the fact he had previously expressed a desire to fight for ISIS.
 
Informants are also vulnerable targets of these FBI operations and usually, do the “dirty work” of the FBI in exchange for softer punishment in their own previous prosecutions. In addition, they often do it for money — or a combination of the two. An FBI informant can earn approximately $100,000 or more for a single case.

The culmination of the extent of the FBI’s interference can be seen most clearly in the infamous case of Sami Osmakac. The FBI provided the weapons he used in his propaganda videos, paid the informant who instigated his behavior, provided and assembled the car bomb he was supposedly going to detonate, and even paid his transport costs to get him exactly where the FBI wanted him to go.
 
This is a man who had no links to any terrorist groups, had no weapons, and could barely afford a new car battery for his 1994 Honda Accord. The FBI squad supervisor, Richard Worms, referred to Osmakac as a “retarded fool” who didn’t have a “pot to piss in.”
 
Osmakac’s own family stated he had become paranoid, delusional, and pale, and that he would sleep on the floor, complaining about nightmares in which he was burning in hell.
 
He was later diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder by a court-appointed psychologist.
If these people need help, why can’t the authorities provide it to them? Why prey on them, further radicalize them, and provide them with supplies and weaponry that put the wider public at risk — only to lock them away for decades for a crime they would not have otherwise committed?
 
The answer is simple. In the words of former FBI Assistant Director, Thomas Fuentes:




“If you’re submitting budget proposals for a law enforcement agency, for an intelligence agency, you’re not going to submit the proposal that ‘We won the war on terror and everything’s great,’ cuz the first thing that’s gonna happen is your budget’s gonna be cut in half. You know, it’s my opposite of Jesse Jackson’s ‘Keep Hope Alive’—it’s ‘Keep Fear Alive.’ Keep it alive.”

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That one has nothing surprising, what's about the crimes ?

 

I will have to dig that up, I think it was a newspaper article.

 

I might have :cough: exaggerated that figure mildly ( groping madly around for the correct political phraseology :-/ ) it was 69 K, but what's a 'one ' between friends.

 

 

http://news.trust.org/item/20160607175612-xv0kf

 

 

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