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Presure in the top of head an in my forehead

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I never believed in chakras, I thought it is something symbolic only, but I started to feel it since around 3 months.

I want to know what to do with that cause it affects my life, perception and my body too (sicknes, flu, headaches).

 

I have no idea about chakras. I only meditated sometimes, not to much, I was not participating to any tradition so far. Maybe a bit zen, but very little practice.

 

Everything started with being in a relationship with a woman. One day I just oppened to her, and in this day I started to feel a lot of energy and pulsation in my forehead

 

A few days later I woke up with a headache (at the top of my head) and hearing vibrating sound. Also being very sensitive to sounds. Painkillers did not helped. It just started to grow, like a hughe clench at the top of my head.

then in a period of 3 weeks I started to experience a short insights where "I am everything"

 

Then this pain went away. but I have started to meditate and this pressure in my forehead has appeared. It stays with me the whole day. Only in the morning it dissapears, right after wake up, but then, after a moment it is back. This vibrating sound I hear too.

So once durring the meditation I came to realization that maybe it is something about chakras, so I started to think that this pain in the top of my head was maybe a chakra too, cause this pressure in my forehead seems simmilar to that. I wanted to check it.

 

I started to focus on the top of my head and it came to me again. This pain, and clench. I was meditating for an hour just experiencing thhese two pressures grow, and after that it was just painfull. The next day I woke up with a hughe headpain and blured view. Then flu.
Durring the day I had another insight with "no I, empty mind" and after that I felt like heat on the top of my head.

 

What can I do with these chakras? Is there any litereature you can reccomend me, or maybe to visit some specialist? Or just leave it and do my work?

In february I go to a zen retreat for 3 weeks, but I don't know if asking any zen master about it is a good idea. They don't have any teaching about chakras I guess.

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I'm guessing it's your third eye/pineal gland awakening, decalcifying and opening

 

But that's only a guess and I'm not an expert nor very knowledgeable at all in these kind of things in any way

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I never believed in chakras, I thought it is something symbolic only, but I started to feel it since around 3 months.

I want to know what to do with that cause it affects my life, perception and my body too (sicknes, flu, headaches).

 

I have no idea about chakras. I only meditated sometimes, not to much, I was not participating to any tradition so far. Maybe a bit zen, but very little practice.

 

Everything started with being in a relationship with a woman. One day I just oppened to her, and in this day I started to feel a lot of energy and pulsation in my forehead

 

A few days later I woke up with a headache (at the top of my head) and hearing vibrating sound. Also being very sensitive to sounds. Painkillers did not helped. It just started to grow, like a hughe clench at the top of my head.

then in a period of 3 weeks I started to experience a short insights where "I am everything"

 

Then this pain went away. but I have started to meditate and this pressure in my forehead has appeared. It stays with me the whole day. Only in the morning it dissapears, right after wake up, but then, after a moment it is back. This vibrating sound I hear too.

 

So once durring the meditation I came to realization that maybe it is something about chakras, so I started to think that this pain in the top of my head was maybe a chakra too, cause this pressure in my forehead seems simmilar to that. I wanted to check it.

 

I started to focus on the top of my head and it came to me again. This pain, and clench. I was meditating for an hour just experiencing thhese two pressures grow, and after that it was just painfull. The next day I woke up with a hughe headpain and blured view. Then flu.

Durring the day I had another insight with "no I, empty mind" and after that I felt like heat on the top of my head.

 

What can I do with these chakras? Is there any litereature you can reccomend me, or maybe to visit some specialist? Or just leave it and do my work?

 

In february I go to a zen retreat for 3 weeks, but I don't know if asking any zen master about it is a good idea. They don't have any teaching about chakras I guess.

Start doing Tai chi or Bagua. The moving meditation and body focus (initially) will help ground you and balance out your energy. Also, do get a medical check up done to rule out any physiological ailments.

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Everything started with being in a relationship with a woman. One day I just oppened to her, and in this day I started to feel a lot of energy and pulsation in my forehead

 

A few days later I woke up with a headache (at the top of my head) and hearing vibrating sound. Also being very sensitive to sounds. Painkillers did not helped. It just started to grow, like a hughe clench at the top of my head.

then in a period of 3 weeks I started to experience a short insights where "I am everything"

 

Then this pain went away. but I have started to meditate and this pressure in my forehead has appeared. It stays with me the whole day. Only in the morning it dissapears, right after wake up, but then, after a moment it is back. This vibrating sound I hear too.

 

 

So far, I have not detect anything from your input. May I ask what have you done within the time frame since you have met this girl...???

 

Meditation is a healing process rather than do harm to your system. May I ask how and what do you do in your meditation in your own words....???

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Kubba, if I may offer a suggestion. Get your head out of your head, and stick it in your ass.

 

Of course I am teasing, but the confrontational statement is intended to shock your attention. I don't know chakras but I do know Chinese medicine and you describe the typical symptoms of Liver Qi or Liver Yang rising (your tongue and pulse will clearly show which). While the underlying cause is probably more to do with how you respond the frustrating pressures of your life, the attention you are paying to your head and points of focus within it are likely exacerbating the problem

 

So, I would suggest you look at 氣沉丹田 sink the Qi to Dantain as a safer route for your meditation that anything that leads things upward. Settle into your tailbone and put your attention on the root of your body if you are practising seated meditation. You show the signs of someone who can easily move Qi with thought, and this is a blessing and curse in equal measure. This means that you do not need to train your mind any further than your body can come along. You have proven that you can move energy to your head, now try not to use your whole being to do it. Be in the meditation without leaving your buttocks to do so. ;)

 

The other thing is to look at how you move through the world. How do relate to planning and action? How do you deal with frustration? Do you have a temper? In relationships do you keep score (you got to this so I get to do that...)? Do you have buttons to push? Do you sigh much? Do you ever feel like there is something caught in your throat? Do you ever feel an uncomfortable fullness under the base of your ribs?

 

Again, I hope are not offended by how I started. It was a test of reactivity. Ask yourself how it really made you feel and why. As the Zen saying goes, "the cawing of the crow does not change your essential nature, what matter the words of a person?"

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So, I would suggest you look at 氣沉丹田 sink the Qi to Dantain as a safer route for your meditation that anything that leads things upward. Settle into your tailbone and put your attention on the root of your body if you are practising seated meditation. You show the signs of someone who can easily move Qi with thought, and this is a blessing and curse in equal measure. This means that you do not need to train your mind any further than your body can come along. You have proven that you can move energy to your head, now try not to use your whole being to do it. Be in the meditation without leaving your buttocks to do so. ;)

 

The other thing is to look at how you move through the world. How do relate to planning and action? How do you deal with frustration? Do you have a temper? In relationships do you keep score (you got to this so I get to do that...)? Do you have buttons to push? Do you sigh much? Do you ever feel like there is something caught in your throat? Do you ever feel an uncomfortable fullness under the base of your ribs?

 

Again, I hope are not offended by how I started. It was a test of reactivity. Ask yourself how it really made you feel and why. As the Zen saying goes, "the cawing of the crow does not change your essential nature, what matter the words of a person?"

 

 

Sometimes I feel something uncomfortable under my belly button inside the body. It happend when I hold back with something in relationship, and most of the time I realize that I'm holding back after a few days. Then this strange pressure goes away.

 

Nothing in my throath and under the base of my robs.

 

Buttons to push? Not much, but planning was my weak spot. Now it becomes better.
The pressure arises when I feel no frustration. Whan I am lost in frustration then I'm lost in general, with feeling anything too.

 

What I felt after your first line was - first - offended, and after a second - "he is right".

What I try to do, since around 2 weeks is being more in my body. But this "being without leaving my buttocks" is really hard to do. I don't know if I ever experienced being there. Most of the times I have feeling of going upward without even trying to move my energy anywhere.

 

 

My girlfriend is really sensitive to me and she noticed around a month ago that I was "dead". That she could not feel me. This has lasted for 3 weeks, and I really did not know what was it, but I felt like only being consciousness withouth body. And literally I could not feel my body nor any emotions, everything was neutral to me. Then somehow I learned how to go out of there. In one book of zen I found some description close that - they call it "being stuck in absolut". At this point I did not feel any pressure in my head.

 

When I meditate I just sit in front of the wall, with eyes open or closed and breath to my lower belly. Most of the times I can feel every breth in my genitals too.

I practice also walking meditation: 10 - 30 kilometers a week.

 

Sorry for my english - I'm not a native :)

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Meditation is a healing process rather than do harm to your system. May I ask how and what do you do in your meditation in your own words....???

 

Sitting in front of the wall with eyes open or closed, breathing into my lower belly and repeating mantra (not always) and holding a mudra of concentration.

when I breath in I say in my mind "who am I?"

when I breath out I say "I don't know"

 

Sometimes I try to start with evoking non-seeking, non-grasping mind

 

Other version of that is just feeling energy going down into my genital area, and then going upward as I breath out. Sometimes I can feel it going down, sometimes both, sometimes only when it goes upward.

Recently, at the end of session I get feeling of leaving my body in hands area.

 

SOmetimes I experiment like with this pressures. I did not know what is it so I focus on it.

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This is not happening because of calcification or anything inorganic - it is common and how long it lasts is directly the result of the approach to it.

Befriend your ego and ask it why it believes this is necessary - why it is holding the reins tight here. What is bottled up? if it is not time to work its way through your being, then when? You are meditating - now is the time to move forward through this.

 

 

I started talking to that, but only responce I got was more or less pain.

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Sometimes I feel something uncomfortable under my belly button inside the body. It happend when I hold back with something in relationship, and most of the time I realize that I'm holding back after a few days. Then this strange pressure goes away.

 

I think I have sensed something, here, in red. May I ask what do mean by "hold back with something in relationship"...??? I believe that I know where that pressure was coming from but I would like to hear something from you first for confirmation.

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Sorry, I can get out of the quote box.

 

I think I have sensed something, here, in red. May I ask what do mean by "hold back with something in relationship"...??? I believe I know where that pressure was coming from but I would like to hear something from you first for confirmation.

Well, when I was not open, or attached to some things, not present. I don't remember exactly what, but this felling under my belly button was connected with my genitals, cause in these moments I felt like an impotent until I pass it. Really, something like giving out my power

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Well, when I was not open, or attached to some things, not present. I don't remember exactly what, but this felling under my belly button was connected with my genitals, cause in these moments I felt like an impotent until I pass it. Really, something like giving out my power

 

Okay, it sounds about right. What I was getting at is to find out were you very sexually active when you are with her. Like sometimes might be over doing it. It might cause headaches too.

 

The pressure you had described will do exactly that. There is a way to release this pressure, immediately, by using your index and middle fingers to press 1 to 1.5 inch below your belly button. This is called acupressure. While you are applying pressure to that location, you will have a pulsating feeling against your fingers. However, you will feel a little pulsating pain, also, but don't worry about it. The pain will go away after the pulsating sensation is gone.

 

FYI Guys with excessive masturbation will have the same kind of feeling that you are experiencing below the belly button. It will go away in few days as you said. It will be gone immediately if the acupressure procedure was performed as I have recommended.

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Okay, I have something to share.

 

After reading all posts here I went to meditate for an hour. I did not know what exactly mean al these things you guys wrote, but I just tried to lower this "energy" into my lower belly and down into first chakra area. And circulate it too. Down in front of the body upward in the back of my body.

 

First nothing happened, but I was just trying softly,

I asked, as someone recommended, to my controling mind if there is it something blocking my energy flow and if it is possible to circulate my energy freely without any problems (This asking I made according to Big Mind process by Genpo Roshi)

 

then after a moment it become possible for me to do it through the whole session. I started to feel my first chakra and other different sensations, like heavy "things" in my back, Less pressure in my head, much less, less thinking, warmth and shivers in my whole body. I also kind of can channel this energy more to the right of my head and body or to the left.

So this is all true about this energy and chakras.

So all I have to do is just lower "it" to the level of first chakra? Something more?

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didn't have the patience to read the whole thread, so if some of this has been said, sorry in advance:

 

what you are dealing with has a few possible motivating factors:

 

firstly, you went through a serious emotional release and that in and of itself can cause a change in consciousness as well as a brief change in some of the physiological characteristics of your body and brain (for instance large release of dopamine, seratonin and other neuro chemicals). This on its own could have caused the pulsing feeling in your head.

I suspect that this and the combination of your recent foray into meditation was what triggered such a strong feeling.

 

Now here is the part about chakras:

you very likely have some energetic and emotional blockages going on in your body.

depending on your personality and emotional characteristics, you may have a lot of stuff going on in your head that draws energy away from your lower body and causes a stagnation there.

 

This energy isn't specifically qi or prana or anything of that sort.

You can just view it from the perspective of always being in your head, thinking, and not knowing how to feel with your whole body.

 

I suspect that your meditation practice has a large influence on the way this feeling manifests and I would further suggest three options that you can follow to improve your situation:

 

1: stop all practice for at least a week and observe if the feeling goes away. if it persists, you may have developed migrane or similar conditions, so at that time you should consult a physician. if it goes away, begin to resume practice, and monitor whether the feeling comes back or not. at this time, if it comes back, it means that there is something wrong with your practice and you need to consult your teacher, or if it is a problem of being passed incorrect information, either change teachers, or quit.

 

2: during meditation and when this headache or pressure occurs, soften your breath, and let your mind slowly move toward your abdomen. the feeling should be of centering the mind in the abdomen and gradually drawing the energy away from your head. this takes a while to get the hang of, but basically, if you focus on the feeling of breathing softly and moving the mind toward the centre of your body (lower abdomen area, under the kidneys but above the genitals), you will gradually start to break up the energy blockage. if you start to feel tired while doing this, you can also extend the awareness to your whole body and the area of space just around the outside of the body. but always return the feeling to the lower abdomen and make sure it is solid before you finish practice.

 

3:talk to your teacher and explain the whole situation to them. They will most likely be sympathetic and explain to you why this might have occurred. Remember that meditation teachers help students with this kind of problem all the time and it is totally normal to experience these road blocks during cultivation. Your teachers are there to help you and they don't want you to get injured while practicing.

 

 

This advice works like this,

either combining number one and number three or number two and number three will have the best results.

either way, you need to be communicating with your teacher about this.

meditation sickness is very real and very dangerous, so you need to be on guard to keep yourself from injuring yourself.

 

Aside from that,

spend a bit more time sleeping, eat more vegetables and fruit, and do things that make you happy.

lifestyle is also key to developing good practice :D

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