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[Gerard]

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Edited September 16, 2013 by Gerard

[adept]

So many lists ! How confusing.

Would it not be better than instead of all those lists of stages of progression and whatnot, just to 'turn around the light' and experience our true nature, here and now ?

[Gerard]

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Edited September 13, 2013 by Gerard

[adept]

You can't suddenly experience true nature out of the blue, if the Buddha put a lot of effort into his practice what makes you believe you shouldn't?

 

Sometimes the sudden breakthrough comes after long years of practice, other times people just 'get it' at a phrase, a sound, a text, reading poetry, washing the dishes, making tea, picking the kids up from school etc etc...

Sudden breakthroughs always require more work to cement the realization though.

Effort is always required.

[Gerard]

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Edited September 13, 2013 by Gerard

[konchog uma]

Ajahn Brahm, in Mindfulness Bliss and Beyond, says that originally (in the suttas) the 8fold path was a 10fold path

 

i forget what the other two are... something like right wisdom and right liberation

 

anyone else have information on this?

[RongzomFan]

But basically you'll be observing Jhana in the end no matter what.

 

Not in Vajrayana

[Gerard]

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Edited September 13, 2013 by Gerard

[konchog uma]

interesting, thank you gerard!

[Gerard]

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Edited September 13, 2013 by Gerard