tulku Posted April 18, 2012 Is it an "Evil" thingy to want to create a World without Sexual Desires? Do you think that a World without Sexual Desires is better than a World with Sexual Desires? In what way would Humanity evolve without Sexual Desires? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zenstillempty Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) Is it an "Evil" thingy to want to create a World without Sexual Desires? Do you think that a World without Sexual Desires is better than a World with Sexual Desires? In what way would Humanity evolve without Sexual Desires? Yes. You should want to create a free world. And that means a big tent that you personally may not always like. It is not wrong to create a personal life without sexual desire. That's freedom. Edited April 18, 2012 by zenstillempty 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky7Strikes Posted April 18, 2012 8 out of 10 posts you put up are on sex. It's all you talk about. Sex, sex, sex. Just an observation. . 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tulku Posted April 18, 2012 Yes. You should want to create a free world. And that means a big tent that you personally may not always like. It is not wrong to create a personal life without sexual desire. That's freedom. This topic isn't about freedom. It is about creating a world without any sexual desires. If we all live in this world without any sexual desires or any desires to indulge in our senses through food or entertainment, humanity would want to evolve to become gods within one year. Your don't own your sexual desires btw. It is the gods who create and own the sexual and other desires in you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tulku Posted April 18, 2012 I think Humans have this misconception about Freedom. Humanity must understand one thing. Humans are like ants compared to the zillions of multi-dimensional beings out there and there is nothing to prevent other multi-dimensional beings from abusing us and taking away our freedoms in a moment's notice. So if a Human ever wants complete freedom, he must evolve himself to the point that not even other multi-dimensional beings can ever touch him again. Othewise no amount of laws permitting your freedom will ever allow you to have complete freedom and control of your life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tulku Posted April 18, 2012 8 out of 10 posts you put up are on sex. It's all you talk about. Sex, sex, sex. Just an observation. . This is because the biggest obstacle to a man's enlightenment is sex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zenstillempty Posted April 18, 2012 This topic isn't about freedom. It is about creating a world without any sexual desires. If we all live in this world without any sexual desires or any desires to indulge in our senses through food or entertainment, humanity would want to evolve to become gods within one year. Your don't own your sexual desires btw. It is the gods who create and own the sexual and other desires in you. For me this thread is about "creating a world", therefore it is about creating freedom. "Zen in its essence is the art of seeing into the nature of one's own being, and it points the way from bondage to freedom." -- Zen Master D.T. Suzuki And the Gods will agree with me. God doesn't own me. In fact that's why he created me; to be myself. That's freedom. Thank God God knows that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zenstillempty Posted April 18, 2012 This is because the biggest obstacle to a man's enlightenment is sex. Sex is a trivial "game of love" for fun and pleasure, and to propagate the species. See http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?/topic/23047-would-you-like-most-women-to-cover-up-their-beauty/page__view__findpost__p__333698 for more and to get used to the idea of God's creation, woman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birch Posted April 18, 2012 I doubt any world without desire would exist. Not to point out the obvious but aren't you the tulku here due to to someone's desire of some kind? Yes, I suppose it's possible to resent the desire that 'brought you into being'. Sorry if I'm getting personal, but I do think it is. Possible to carry the resentment forward into oneself if that is what has been impressed upon one's existence. To know that one's existence was not desired by specific people for example. Or only desired with certain selfish aims in mind. To be reminded of it even. Still, despite those desires of others, some other 'desire' brought you here, otherwise you wouldn't be. On the sex thing. I believe the requirement for abstaining is related to 'transmutation' of energies. I reckon there's something to it but I don't know what. I do know that it's one of the first things that gets reined in and carefully attended to in families and societies. ---alert, etc--- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
balance. Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) This topic isn't about freedom. It is about creating a world without any sexual desires. If we all live in this world without any sexual desires or any desires to indulge in our senses through food or entertainment, humanity would want to evolve to become gods within one year. Your don't own your sexual desires btw. It is the gods who create and own the sexual and other desires in you. Man, what a bummer of a place this sounds like, Tulku... But I imagine the whole affair would be pretty short lived given the total lack of human interest in the perpetuation of their species with sex having become such a pleasure-less and disagreeable chore... Edited April 18, 2012 by balance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
konchog uma Posted April 18, 2012 This post is hidden because you have chosen to ignore posts by tulku. View it anyway? all these posts are the same. duality, evil, sex sex sex, demons, you're going to hell. *yawn* you can't create a world anyway, so why fantasize? better to just accept the world the way it is than get lost in delusions about destroying it to create an asexual new one. although in the case that all that sperm youre saving backs up to your brain and causes you the godlike powers you lust after, and you actually DO get to create another world, and it doesn't have sex or desire, please just leave me dead. thanks. til then i will just marvel at how many responses tulku gets to these posts. this thread will have 150 posts in a week and nobody will be any the better off for it lol 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky7Strikes Posted April 18, 2012 This is because the biggest obstacle to a man's enlightenment is sex. what if I told you... it's likely just you. How old are you? Or when's the last time you've gotten laid or had any meaningful sexual relationship? Because your ideas of sex are all that...just "ideas" with no or little resemblance to actual sexuality. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted April 18, 2012 Because your ideas of sex are all that...just "ideas" with no or little resemblance to actual sexuality Same with his ideas of enlightenment and spirituality... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky7Strikes Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) Same with his ideas of enlightenment and spirituality... Yeah, he's quite the essential armchair practitioner. Imo these threads are a helpful mirror because it exposes extreme roads one's practice and beliefs can take you if you don't ground them in sound reason and tangible reality. I actually think tulku might even be doing this on purpose for the said reasons above. Edited April 18, 2012 by Lucky7Strikes 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zenstillempty Posted April 18, 2012 I think Humans have this misconception about Freedom. Humanity must understand one thing. Humans are like ants compared to the zillions of multi-dimensional beings out there and there is nothing to prevent other multi-dimensional beings from abusing us and taking away our freedoms in a moment's notice. So if a Human ever wants complete freedom, he must evolve himself to the point that not even other multi-dimensional beings can ever touch him again. Othewise no amount of laws permitting your freedom will ever allow you to have complete freedom and control of your life. Therefore allow you to make me your slave? Wrong conclusion. Therefore we should try to create as much freedom for ourselves as possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C T Posted April 18, 2012 Is it an "Evil" thingy to want to create a World without Sexual Desires? Do you think that a World without Sexual Desires is better than a World with Sexual Desires? In what way would Humanity evolve without Sexual Desires? .yikes. (pulling duvet over head) Goodnight, Mr. Lawrence. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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jacklantegi Posted April 18, 2012 You go ahead and create whatever world you like, and please keep it to yourself. I, will continue to live my natural human desires. Not exploit them, just experience them. They are my birthright. I don't mean any offense to you, but you really come across as a sexually frustrated individual. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiverSnake Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) "I don't see nothing wrong with a little bump and grind." R. Kelly Go get laid tulku. My 2 cents. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83j4ICes2i4 Edited April 18, 2012 by OldGreen 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baiqi Posted April 18, 2012 Creating a world without sexual desires is- by definition- destroying this world. No sex= no life. That would be the end of humanity, if it were possible... A quite painless death, compared with other options though. However I believe it is good to reduce, or rather re-balance many human's sexual desires. Sex in itself is natural. The problem is when the mental-mind-ego takes the experience and makes it its own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
三江源 Posted April 18, 2012 Your don't own your sexual desires btw. It is the gods who create and own the sexual and other desires in you. Why do the gods do this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokona Posted April 19, 2012 This is because the biggest obstacle to a man's enlightenment is sex. Actually, sex is empowering and can lead to enlightenment. Do you understand that your perfectly capable of being wrong regarding your views on sex or did a multidimensional being personally bless your wierd POV @ somepoint? Bless your little heart for trying, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Zen Posted April 19, 2012 (edited) "Good" and "Evil" do not exist. There is only pleasure and suffering, and the associations we make between the two in our minds (which we call good and evil). Just as there is no "I" (because we keep saying it over and over so much so that we believe it is true), there is no "Good/Evil". A world without sexual desires is one which is rid of many pleasures, but also rid of much suffering. How can we comment on these things which we have not experienced? Edited April 19, 2012 by John Zen 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Owledge Posted April 19, 2012 It seems to me that whenever tulku posts something with question marks, you have to replace them with exclamation marks in order to not get confused. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goldisheavy Posted April 19, 2012 Is it an "Evil" thingy to want to create a World without Sexual Desires? Do you think that a World without Sexual Desires is better than a World with Sexual Desires? In what way would Humanity evolve without Sexual Desires? Outside of ignorance, greed is a much bigger problem than excessive sexual desire. Greed, as in, wanting too much stuff, wealth, too many friends, endless accumulation, etc. I would leave the sexual desire alone and try to reduce greed, personally. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
