AstralProjectee

I can think myself to orgasum. Here is how I did it.

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Hi all. I am a beginner on the taoist path and tantra. Actually, I don't identify myself with any religion in particular. Some may ask what does thinking your self to orgasm have to do with taoism. We'll I am trying to do solo cultivation so I think if one has direct control over there sex hormones from the brain to do solo cultivation. That would give them an advantage over someone who is just doing solo cultivation manually ie with your hand. The reason is that probably not not as many hormones are released, and hormones is what every taoist wants to boost. I first learned about thinking off from comcast on-demand. They no longer have the show on. But you can find at least part of it here.

 

Strange Sex- Thinking Off

 

I made 3 posts on my experience with thinking off. Even though I use the word thinking off because it's already common. I think it's more accurate to call it feeling off. Anyway. I am new to this whole thing so. I am no expert. There is a book out about it though, can't find it right now. Here are my 3 posts I already made on another blog about my experiences.

 

"thinking off" Is actually more like feeling off.

Fri, 09/30/2011 - 09:28

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I tried doing solo masturbation to cultivate sexual energy to learn how to orgasm for hours on end (like in tantra). Even though I did touch my self. I think that in time I should be able to do it without touching. At first I didn't have much success. Then I tried something different. I put on a blind fold and laid down under the covers. I was trying different things. With little to no physical touch on my penis. It took me quite awhile to get into the mood as my health is not all that great. Eventually I got the hang of it though. First thing you have to do is RELAX and BREATHE. If you don't relax any lower sexual energy that is generated will just bring you to cum once it's generated. You want to focus on the journey not the destination. I was touching my self all over my body while relaxing into feeling. I stopped judging my self, and focused on the feelings I had. I would touch my nipples as they are also a sexual part of my man too you know. Sexual energy really started to pulse through my body about an hour in, as I don't have a good sex drive. I would try to roll my eyes up and forget about my hindrances and embraced the now of feeling. Little need for words or thoughts. Just relax into your feelings. I didn't moan as I didn't want some family member to hear me. I was moving my head and my body around slowly. If your having a hard time staying present, then your default state should be to relax and breathe deeply. In order to sensitize your nervous system you have to relax first. Then you can touch your self slowly and try to really focus on the smallest things at times to re-sensitize your self. I was breathing in and out feelings of sexual energy. Making it like of like wet dream is kind of how I did it. Thinking sexual thoughts at times. Taking pleasure in and enjoying every whim of my hearts desire. If I am correct I believe the brains sexual pleasure center to be in the middle of the brain. So focusing on that I'm sure will help too. I was elated once I was done. I was shocked that it worked. I felt liberated. I had the biggest smile on my face.

 

Many people think that some how sexual things are evil or are not spiritual. This is ignorance. There was a revolution many years ago when celibacy was supposedly the only way for someone to attain spiritual growth. Out of the revolution came tantra which is to find enlightenment through sexuality. This is what I want to do. As tantra has many benefits over other forms of spirituality, both spiritually and physically speaking. If you learn tantra you should be able to eventually be able think, or should I say feel off.

I didn't cum as I have learned though Mantak Chia that you can have mind expanding pleasure hour after hour, there is no need to cum. Besides cuming only prevents you from reaching longer, higher peaks of rapturing pleasure. I think with practice I can definitely do this. Even though I did touch my self, I think that in time I should be able to do it without touching my self at all.

 

Hope I gave some good info here to help someone.

 

Peace!

 

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I released oxytocin the love hormone using feeling, imagination

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 05:26

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AstralProjectee here again, I released oxytocin, the love hormone using my feeling and imagination. Yes I did it without a partner. It was like a dream fantasy only it was more real since I was awake.

What I did was put on my eye mask, sat down,

I let go of all judgments all doubts all defenses. And ever so tenderly I moved in and touched the sacred with my tongue, and licked the vulva of a beautiful women. She just melted when I did this. As I did this I felt peace come over me. I felt love. I heard music of a women singing ever so softly singing. It was magical. I felt like a magnetic pull ever so slightly toward this women. I had the biggest smile on myself when done. So this is how you make love. It's to bad porn has done so much damage to peoples ideas and beliefs about sex. I will definitely experiment with this more.

Hope this helps someone

 

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I did it I thought off and had brain sex.

Mon, 10/03/2011 - 05:46

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I finally did it I thought off or felt off. I had brain sex. Without any touch I had a body orgasm. I put on my eye mask on was able to find the a spot in my brain that stated the orgasm. It felt more stimulating than normal masturbation. I felt my whole body revving up to cum. I felt like I had to move. So I did. Never thought I would be able to do it, but I did . It was almost like every thing was set aside in my brain, and all that really mattered was this hot spot. I didn't need any fantasy or thought really. Just a feeling in my brain that seemed to be located in the middle some where. I'm sure it's got to be the hypothalamus and or the pituitary. As they are the main glands of the brain, responsible for hormones. They say that the master gland is the hypothalamus, which is located in the middle of the brain. Perhaps I can describe what it felt like. Felt like two parts coming together in my brain in a sexual way.

I'm a guy so it seems like something a guy can do.

Even though I am practicing semen retention, I could not help my self and cumed. Though that will probably be the last time unless it happens on accident or I have a child. As nobody needs to ejaculate to reach high states of sexual pleasure, hour after hour, as tantra and taoist can do. I just cumed so that I can say that I can think off and that it is possible. It was not like I had saved my semen for a long time anyway.

If you want to have brain sex don't give it an all or nothing attitude. Try touching yourself too. I took me a about good week before I could do it. I was practicing with a lot of touch and experimenting with different things. I may be that having a blink fold is really good at first to do this. Not sure. That is what I used though. A blind fold that could totally block out light. I also take ashwagandha, an aphrodisiac.

Good luck everyone.

 

Peace!

 

I mainly am posting my experience to let people know that that almost anyone can have a whole body orgasm without your hand or a partner. I'm showing you that option at least. I think it's actually very empowering.

 

Peace!

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What makes you think this is a desirable "skill?"

 

 

Like I said. You would be generating hormones directly in the brain. In the hypothalamus the master gland and the pituitary. These sex hormones are what taoist need for sexuality health and longevity. I think if someone could generated these sex hormones directly then they would have an advantage over someone that can't generate these sex hormones directly.

 

Edit: This is especially true if you your doing solo cultivation.

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/\ good luck, but I advise you to completely discard that line of thinking you just posted - it is erroneous. yes, those are the places these things happen, but if you think by doing this you are attaining some skill or enhancing anything at all, you're going to find out, possibly badly, that you're wrong.

 

sorry this sounds harsh, but it wont be anywhere near as harsh as reality if you screw yourself up. thinking yourself to orgasm will deplete, it will not enhance. it will not give you granular control over production of catalyst.

 

which...you probably would not want in the first place...

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/\ good luck, but I advise you to completely discard that line of thinking you just posted - it is erroneous. yes, those are the places these things happen, but if you think by doing this you are attaining some skill or enhancing anything at all, you're going to find out, possibly badly, that you're wrong.

 

sorry this sounds harsh, but it wont be anywhere near as harsh as reality if you screw yourself up. thinking yourself to orgasm will deplete, it will not enhance. it will not give you granular control over production of catalyst.

 

which...you probably would not want in the first place...

 

You might be right, but I would think that one could generate different hormones according to how they they do it. As in one of the experiences I had I generated what seemed to be oxycontin. Meaning all the feeling that I felt seemed to be that of relating to the hormone an neurotransmitter, oxycontin. One could eventually learn to skip all the other things the fantasies stuff and generate that feeling of love without any sexual thoughts. I guess you could say that the fantasy is only the training wheels for learning to generate these hormones and neurotransmitters but as time goes on one should be able to generate these feelings of love and peace without any sexual thoughts.

 

You know what they say:

 

All truths can be divided into three stages: 1. Ridicule, 2. Violently Opposed, and 3. Accepted as Self Evident.

 

Peace!

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hey hey hey aren't you collecting grains of sand to build a beach there?

If you focus on every little thing you will never be done

 

Don't want to go into detail yet, but work on your base before you crumble

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Thinking yourself to orgasm definitely sounds like it could be very entertaining and if you can pull it off, that would be quite a feat. Some women are naturally able to do this... But it has nothing whatsoever to with energetic cultivation.

 

Comcast on demand is a great service, but I'm not sure that it reflects the most reliable source for high level spiritual practices.

 

Orgasming for hours on end has nothing whatsoever to do with tantra. link In fact Tantra has very little to do with sex at all. Tantra means technique and it refers to spiritual ritual to a deity with mantra, yantra and meditation. The vast majority of tantra involves periods of celibacy. And I would guess that over 95% of all tantric techniques have nothing to do with sex at all....The extremely small percentage of Tantrics who use sexual techniques only do so after lengthy superivsion and preparation from a guru. They train for years in meditative practices to clear their mind of lust before attempting any sexual cultivation. Sexual rituals are done very sparingly solely for spiritual and energetic reasons to connect more deeply with their deity that they are worshipping. The males usually do not ejaculate during the sexual rituals at all. These rituals are not done all the time as you seem to suggest.

 

What you are referring to as "tantra" is the westernized nonsense that has flooded our books. But, it does not reflect the true nature of Tantra in it's original context.

 

I am not trying to disparage the joys of healthy sex. I am a staunch supporter of enjoying it. I am saying that you have been misled on what tantra really is...

 

If you are really serious about learning tantra, I strongly suggest you find a qualified teacher. Do not believe everything you read in books...

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Thinking yourself to orgasm definitely sounds like it could be very entertaining and if you can pull it off, that would be quite a feat. Some women are naturally able to do this... But it has nothing whatsoever to with energetic cultivation.

 

Comcast on demand is a great service, but I'm not sure that it reflects the most reliable source for high level spiritual practices.

 

Orgasming for hours on end has nothing whatsoever to do with tantra. link In fact Tantra has very little to do with sex at all. Tantra means technique and it refers to spiritual ritual to a deity with mantra, yantra and meditation. The vast majority of tantra involves periods of celibacy. And I would guess that over 95% of all tantric techniques have nothing to do with sex at all....The extremely small percentage of Tantrics who use sexual techniques only do so after lengthy superivsion and preparation from a guru. They train for years in meditative practices to clear their mind of lust before attempting any sexual cultivation. Sexual rituals are done very sparingly solely for spiritual and energetic reasons to connect more deeply with their deity that they are worshipping. The males usually do not ejaculate during the sexual rituals at all. These rituals are not done all the time as you seem to suggest.

 

What you are referring to as "tantra" is the westernized nonsense that has flooded our books. But, it does not reflect the true nature of Tantra in it's original context.

 

I am not trying to disparage the joys of healthy sex. I am a staunch supporter of enjoying it. I am saying that you have been misled on what tantra really is...

 

On a side note, I echo what has been said that you are playing around with stuff you know very little about and are in danger of seriously injuring yourself. Check the archives here for the many threads containing those who have permanently damaged themselves by tinkering around with sexual cultivation practices from books...

 

If you are really serious about learning tantra, I strongly suggest you find a qualified teacher. Do not believe everything you read in books...

You make some interesting points. I'll see, as it will take some time for me to really look into this and find the truth for myself.

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I must add though that I still think that thinking off is still better than the ordinary manual stimulation. As thinking off brings about a more natural whole body orgasm.

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I must add though that I still think that thinking off is still better than the ordinary manual stimulation. As thinking off brings about a more natural whole body orgasm.

 

Making value judgements of "better" or "worse" IME are an ego trap. There is what you want and what you don't want. Do what you want and enjoy it. There is nothing wrong or unspiritual in just being human.

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If A person tries to quit masterbating after a week,the sexual gland that creates the sexual energy will start to have pain because the sexual energy is building up and expanding that organ.All a person has to do is wait a couple more days with that pain in the gland for the pain to go away.I personally don't think masterbation is evil but it is a nasty habit to walk around with.. : )

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Thanks Little1 and michael245 for that.

 

Sinfest and joeblast make it seem like masturbation will drain you of sexual energy. If anything it would generate it. Especially the way I am doing it. Like I said, I will be practicing semen retention, so I don't think I would have to worry about losing energy or as one of you guys said depleting my self.

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In my personal opinion masterbation does waste the sexual energy,when people masterbate the sexual energy is leaving the body,which in my opinion is unhealthy."How to quit masterbating"....My answer is "It's easy".

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You store energy by not using it

All monks in every religion/practice have so many rules because they have to generate more energy

Don't do what you want to do

You will create resistance that way and store more energy and when you finally do what you want to do, it will be great *ahem*

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In my personal opinion masterbation does waste the sexual energy,when people masterbate the sexual energy is leaving the body,which in my opinion is unhealthy."How to quit masterbating"....My answer is "It's easy".

 

How then can Mantak Chia can make love to his wife for 10 years using semen retention. Then decide to have a baby, and ejaculate and and have a child? How can he make love, making sexual energy and using it without depleting himself. I thought the idea of solo and mate cultivation is to use your sex drive without ejaculating to open up your chi by relaxing instead of tensing up. Then circulate that same energy around the body and store it in the lower dantian for later.

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Ignore these people telling you to stop, most of them have never done what you (and myself) have and are just regurgitating warnings found all over these forums. Good job on the discovery of a "skill" that we all have. If you let these outsiders introduce worry into your mind it will become a major block for you, don't worry, as you stated just relax and do what feels good. Keep in mind that sexual energy is only one form of energy, try the same technique at the heart and see if you can get it to orgasm. What works best for me is to imagine actual penetration here along with a steady contraction/releas e (squeezing & letting go)to simulate intercourse..same goes for the center of your head. Focus your erotic images/pleasure and allow it to cleanse and rejuvinate you. It's refreshing to see someone else having these same experiences, enjoy it : )

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How then can Mantak Chia can make love to his wife for 10 years using semen retention. Then decide to have a baby, and ejaculate and and have a child? How can he make love, making sexual energy and using it without depleting himself.

 

 

 

Sperm is what makes a baby,not semen.Mantiak uses the old fashioned "pull out method".

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How then can Mantak Chia can make love to his wife for 10 years using semen retention. Then decide to have a baby, and ejaculate and and have a child? How can he make love, making sexual energy and using it without depleting himself. I thought the idea of solo and mate cultivation is to use your sex drive without ejaculating to open up your chi by relaxing instead of tensing up. Then circulate that same energy around the body and store it in the lower dantian for later.

it is done just how you've been told - a well conditioned and strong pelvic floor. which gets weakened by repeated ejaculation. you dont have to break your shit to understand that.

 

when the penis erects, are you somehow "manifesting energy" that was not there before?

 

or are you "manifesting energy" derived from your core, and expressing it?

 

thinking yourself there is a 40 yd cul-de-sac road. you will reach the end of it quickly with no recourse but to turn around.

 

forget all the sexual stuff, if you cannot be on your legs then hold your palms up and face your chest with them, do abdominal breathing. a bunch of hours, every day. build your internal energy. if you want to get up and move on, that is.

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Using the exercises to cultivate Sexual Energy, are there any it is not like I am suddenly causing energy to be stimulated that hasn’t previously been activated. et paralyised etc." I have only one thing to say to that – "Bullshit." They have these thoughts or reactions because they don’t understand. If you work according to the laws of nature, how can you come to harm? All you are doing is scaring people.

 

My point exactly. I understand the intention behind a lot of these warnings but oftentimes people go overboard and are told not to have sex, not to think about it, and that arousing/engaging the energy is wrong. Most people have trouble with sexual energy when it becomes stagnant and unengaged. You need to engage it to realease/transmute it. Creative endeavors and sex are 2 means to do it and the author combines them both to create a very effective method. Once again, I've done this and speak from my own experience and this is very effective. Transmute the energy, build the imagination/creative potential of the mind, experience bliss & rejuvination in one go. Transmutation is mind/body orgasm without the physical release, as you stated you need to use your sex drive, it is your gift.

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One other thing I forgot to mention is centering your eyes in the middle kind of tarward the nose and maybe downward really helps center yourself and focus your lower sexual energies. You can also see the the picture bellow that looking lower right focuses on Kinaesthetic or feeling. The reason why is that brain activity and focus follow the eyes, at least partially. I would assume for this to work you would have to center your mind too not just your eyes. In the end follow your own feeling of pleasure over intellectual things.

 

As you can see in this chart the direction of the eyes correlate with different brain activity.

http://www.golf-hypnotist.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/eye-accessing-cues.png

 

Peace!

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