Capital Posted September 27, 2009 This is probably a question that has circulated multiple times; still, it is bothering me, and I am unsure how to approach it. What in 'me' is me? I am not my body, I feel, nor my mind; this I firmly believe: yet they are my means of perceiving the world around me (I believe mind and body are the same thing, but that's something of a tangent..). My identical twin brother is among the many that surround me that swear that we are nothing but a mind and body and that 'I' am but a complicated mixture of hormones, chemicals, and electronic signals. I've taken anatomy classes and psychology classes, and I thought I felt that way for years. Yet, I can't help but hold firmly in a belief in something that is 'me' that is neither flesh nor synapse. I have a mental formulation that is the word 'soul', and it is what I usually think about when thinking about 'me'. To be honest, I do not know my soul, and I can't help but fear that reaching for the 'soul' that I made in my thoughts is not the same as reaching for the soul that makes up my 'essence'. I guess my real question is, how do I feel for my 'soul' or whatever it is when I have no idea how to feel for it, and what I assume I am going to 'feel' it through likes to think its the soul (i.e. my mind/body)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerard Posted September 27, 2009 (edited) Through deep meditation after thousands of hours (or less depending on your karmic evolution) you'll be able to reach the spirit. Edited: typo. Edited September 27, 2009 by durkhrod chogori Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xabir2005 Posted September 27, 2009 (edited) Edited September 27, 2009 by xabir2005 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
三江源 Posted September 27, 2009 Before - long before - I ever heard of meditation it used to kill me that I was stuck in my head, as 'me'. so painful. so tedious, to have to see everything thru the filter of a personality. eeeeeeeek. the narrowness of just being a personality. it made me feel claustrophobic and ineffably bored at the prospect of a lifetime's alliance with this one voice. funny, eh. Now I dont feel stuck at all. My personality seems much less present. I dont notice it so much. Thankfully. Through deep meditation after thousands of hours (or less depending on your karmic evolution) you'll be able to reach the spirit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerard Posted September 27, 2009 Good, a true sign that you are in the correct path. However this is also the stage when the dangers are on the increase as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
三江源 Posted September 27, 2009 Good, a true sign that you are in the correct path. However this is also the stage when the dangers are on the increase as well. oh oh. good job I'm not a paranoid type. *looks over shoulder* *adjusts bullet proof vest* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ninpo-me-this-ninjutsu-me-that Posted September 27, 2009 I guess my real question is, how do I feel for my 'soul' or whatever it is when I have no idea how to feel for it, and what I assume I am going to 'feel' it through likes to think its the soul (i.e. my mind/body)? It's a process of removal, removal of the 'I', it is 'I' that blocks the experience of the soul/essence. Through deep meditation after thousands of hours (or less depending on your karmic evolution) you'll be able to reach the spirit. And that above is pretty much the answer. Keep it simple. Don't think too much. It's the thinking that creates the problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capital Posted September 27, 2009 Thank you all for the replies. I'll meditate more now on what you've written. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeiChuan Posted September 27, 2009 I dont fully know myself sorry lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve Posted September 27, 2009 What in 'me' is me? Why use the word "in"? Why assume that "me" is contained within "my" bag of skin (to borrow Alan Watts' wonderful imagery)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eviander Posted September 27, 2009 http://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com/200...ity-by-ken.html Excerpt from The Simple Feeling of Being From Chapter 1: The Witness Great passage. But to the OP you can easily find books about this subject by people much more liable to answer to the question than I am..but to sum it up in a few words it seems to be that you are consciousness..that has no time or limitations. I do seem to find advaita vedanta really nails this point better than any other philosophy.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve Posted September 27, 2009 Through deep meditation after thousands of hours (or less depending on your karmic evolution) you'll be able to reach the spirit. Edited: typo. Or in an instant! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capital Posted September 29, 2009 Why use the word "in"? Why assume that "me" is contained within "my" bag of skin (to borrow Alan Watts' wonderful imagery)? More that I should meditate on. Thanks! That's a really good question... Another I'd like to ask is 'What is not me?' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted September 29, 2009 I am what I am. I am not what I am not. How much deeper can one go? Happy Trails! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
