Ramon25 Posted June 1, 2009 Hey can they be done standing as oppose to sitting? And if you can how do you do the kidney sound which is bent over? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted June 1, 2009 Maybe its not as powerful but I'll do'em lying down. Standing up. I'll connect with the organ, throw in a feeling or imagery and make the sound very quietly. I'm no expert at them, but I think the mind/intent connection is more important then the body movement. Thats not saying body movement doesn't add to it. Â Â Michael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dainin Posted June 1, 2009 Ken Cohen demonstrates them while standing on this DVD: Â Qigong: Traditional Chinese Exercises for Healing Body, Mind, and Spirit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesse Posted June 2, 2009 Hey can they be done standing as oppose to sitting? And if you can how do you do the kidney sound which is bent over? Â You could also just place your hands on the specific organ that you are exhaling the healing sound with(while your standing) for example both your hands covering(or rubbing)your kidneys while you exhale CHUUUU or CHUUWAAAYYY or which ever version of the healing sounds you practice. Like Dainin posted Ken Cohen has some really good practices of standing Liu Qi Fa (Six Qi Method). Â Jesse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustARandomPanda Posted July 6, 2009 Can someone post a phonetic pronunciation for the 6 sounds?  For that matter can anyone post a phonetic pronunciation for the following words  Lama  Dorjie  Chodron  Rinpoche  Lao Tzu  Baihui  Yintang  Jianjing  Mingmen  Shanzhong  Dantien  Huiyin  Zhangmen  Taiyuan  Yuji  Shaoshang  Zhongfu  Xiyangquan  Huantiao  Laogong  Xuehai  Yinlingquan  Sanyinjiao  Yongquan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zhuo Ming-Dao Posted July 7, 2009 Can someone post a phonetic pronunciation for the 6 sounds? For that matter can anyone post a phonetic pronunciation for the following words  Lama  Dorjie  Chodron  Rinpoche  Lao Tzu  Baihui  Yintang  Jianjing  Mingmen  Shanzhong  Dantien  Huiyin  Zhangmen  Taiyuan  Yuji  Shaoshang  Zhongfu  Xiyangquan  Huantiao  Laogong  Xuehai  Yinlingquan  Sanyinjiao  Yongquan  Part of the problem that you are running into is that some of those Chinese words are written in pinyin and others in Wade-Giles. These are the two most popular systems for Romanization of Chinese characters (putting Chinese into letters). Pinyin is used primarily in mainland China and Wade-Giles is used mostly in Taiwan. Which one you use is actually a major and sensitive political issue too, as one system has become a sign of communism and the other of capitalism for many Chinese people.  For example, despite the spellings, these are the same words and are pronounced the same in Chinese:  Wade-Giles: Tao Te Ching, Lao Tsu, Chuang Tsu, Peiking, Tai Ch'i Chuan, Ch'i Kung  Pinyin: Dao De Jing, Laozi, Zhuangzi, Beijing, Taiji Quan, Qigong  My attempt at a Little More Phonetic(?) Dao De Jing, Lao t'zu, Juang t'zu, Beijing, Taiji Chuan, Chi Gong  You cannot outright say that one system looks more accurate to us, because English is a very messed up language when it comes to pronunciations. If you know any Romanian, though, Pinyin uses a slightly modified version of the Romanian system of pronunciation.  Also, telling you how to pronounce these words would only get you a little closer unless I also gave you the tone markers (Chinese is a tonal language, and a native speaker probably wouldn't understand you with most of the Chinese words on your list without you saying them in the correct tone anyway).  A lot of these words also have sounds that are not found in English, which is also why it is so hard to come up with a writing system that is agreeable to everyone.  Your best bet will be to find an online tool that you can plug in the chinese word and have a chinese computer voice spit out the pronunciation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustARandomPanda Posted July 7, 2009 (edited) Your best bet will be to find an online tool that you can plug in the chinese word and have a chinese computer voice spit out the pronunciation.  Does anyone know where I can download such a program? Preferably free? I tried running several searches but it didn't help.  This is my guess for the following words. Someone please let me know if I'm pronouncing them wrong. At the moment I'm not concerned whether they're tonally correct seeing as I don't have any actual Chinese people around to speak with.  Lama 'Lahma' (just like the South American animal of the Andes)  Dorjie - 'Door-Gee'  Chodron - Cho-drahn (long o sound in Cho...like the 'o' in Hello)  Rinpoche - Rin-posh  Baihui - Bi-hu (Bi as in Bisect, hu like the 'ew' sound in Chew) Edited July 7, 2009 by SereneBlue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist81 Posted July 7, 2009 (edited) Does anyone know where I can download such a program? Preferably free? I tried running several searches but it didn't help.  This is my guess for the following words. Someone please let me know if I'm pronouncing them wrong. At the moment I'm not concerned whether they're tonally correct seeing as I don't have any actual Chinese people around to speak with.  Lama 'Lahma' (just like the South American animal of the Andes)  Dorjie - 'Door-Gee'  Chodron - Cho-drahn (long o sound in Cho...like the 'o' in Hello)  Rinpoche - Rin-posh  Baihui - Bi-hu (Bi as in Bisect, hu like the 'ew' sound in Chew)  Baihui should be more along the lines of "Bi" (as in bisect, bisexual, or biology) and H-way (with a slight "oo" after the "h"). Edited July 7, 2009 by Taoist81 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zhuo Ming-Dao Posted July 7, 2009 Does anyone know where I can download such a program? Preferably free? I tried running several searches but it didn't help. This is a free program, though it can be a little testy.  http://ecl.iflytek.com/ListenToThis/#   Otherwise, here are some basic pronunciation guides and sound bytes:  http://mandarin.about.com/od/pronunciation/l/blsounds.htm  http://www.travlang.com/languages/mandarin...e.mandarin.html  All of these are for Mandarin Chinese that has been written with the pinyin system. In order to pronounce things correctly, you have to identify what language it is and what Romanization system it has been written with.  This is my guess for the following words. Someone please let me know if I'm pronouncing them wrong. At the moment I'm not concerned whether they're tonally correct seeing as I don't have any actual Chinese people around to speak with. Lama 'Lahma' (just like the South American animal of the Andes)  Dorjie - 'Door-Gee'  Chodron - Cho-drahn (long o sound in Cho...like the 'o' in Hello)  Rinpoche - Rin-posh  While I know Japanese and Chinese, I cannot help too much with the Tibetan words. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orb Posted July 7, 2009 The 6 healing sounds are like mantras - they represent a certain vibration. Only a master of the mantra can transmit that sound in order for it to be efficient. The practitioner spends days at a time tuning into the master's way of making the sound. Also there is a certain mental representation that goes along with the sound and some other details. If you don't follow the whole recipe - the result is very close to zero. You cannot learn the 6 healing sounds properly just like you cannot learn a mantra from a book - because it's a sound !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
